Transcript of Episode 94 - Maps Cartography GPS Explore Discover
Click to read the episode transcription below.
This transcription was generated using YouTube's voice to text captioning method. Hopefully, Speech-To-Text technology will become more accurate in the future.
If you landed here randomly, have a look around. Thanks for the visit.
00:00:01| have you ever been lost in the middle of the ocean adrift dark know where to look stars in the sky how do you navigate how do you get around no technology no phone no GPS using a map but where do you go
00:00:19| how do you get there join us so I'm Dan and I'm Nick bugs for old friends dissecting one topic at a time people technology media we've got it all covered each discussion here is a
00:00:41| deep dive in or unique perspective the taboo forbidden subjects they're all on the chopping block baby we don't pander to popular opinion we might even get a little bit dirty morning this podcast
00:00:55| make it a mature language and sexual content and this for entertainment purposes only so join us have a good time open up your earholes we're gonna fondle
00:01:06| your follicles [Music] come back at it look I got it we're live we're here where I live we're live now here we're live I'm leaning
00:01:32| over here just to get a little mood lighting on there you know I was looking all pasty look brighter in a different way yeah we just I think we did almost certainly five minutes ago yeah but
00:01:47| we're on bling we're here so Luke's gonna talk about maps and navigation and uncharted hog Rafi like hair hmm yeah I don't know where go with the hair but I just think it's uncharted and is it that
00:02:05| filthy ratty in and oily no it's shampooed that's fluffy uh-huh okay it's not all Finch and Buddha I will tell you when it's dirty and oily no it's dude shampooed and fluffy I
00:02:16| don't know what to do with it so you carry any maps with you daily no no cuz you know where you're going right how do you know cuz you use the map once this is interesting I didn't we're going here
00:02:30| this early but so by trade I was a delivery driver yeah you know we did look for landmarks yes we did and street names that are very important and knowing the city and
00:02:42| what been using roadways and highways connect the cities so in your in your mind there's like a familiarity with like a street corner there's different things you're looking for you can kind
00:02:54| of sense I think as a human being you can't sense like which direction you're going north south east west good says by the song and you can probably tell by like just the way things feel around you
00:03:05| where you are especially in cities are like places that have very unique landmarks yes I agree so that's getting around well you know I needed to get out of the
00:03:17| city and I just know it was north I could do that I couldn't find by sure Avenue or 5454 fishway Drive or anything like that without a GPS or anything could we you mean to tell me we used to
00:03:31| have to find places before googling them so that brings out like the road map like the road map used to have this like all the streets in an index of the back of it and you'd have
00:03:41| to look for that name and then find the square like c4 and then you go to c4 and you see that and then you track it back to where you are you might have to fold the map a few times if it's like a lot
00:03:52| different page and then you kind of like chart your course remember you write on it yeah you might live in a bad boy yeah that's crazy those days are I don't know when that
00:04:04| stopped really I remember I used to get them for my parents like going to college cuz I don't think it was a thing yet like it I don't think what was it called Oh Carmen do you have a Garmin
00:04:16| remember yeah so the Garmin GPS that existed in college for sure for sure right probably by the time we're in high school bitter spot really expensive then so it's probably by the time we were
00:04:27| college they were mass-produced and you had a unit that went on your windshield that just gave you directions yeah wasn't part of your front people some people still use them I don't doubt it I
00:04:39| don't doubt it I don't know how that company survives though check this one though um how many people you see driving day-to-day that have their phone on their console and you can see the map
00:04:47| open this is what gets me a little weird people so I think the way Google Maps works which is the one most people use is it um it live updates everyone else who's looking at Google Maps so I
00:05:02| because you're a GPS at that point and your public knowledge I guess uh yeah I think it does it for would you traffic right that's what we really need yeah right right but that's what I'm getting
00:05:12| at so if all these people were on ninety five and it knows it's quicker to go off ninety five or whatever you're using all their gps's your network I would even not to go in there yeah yeah it's kind
00:05:25| of a crazy thing I also do it for like roadway say I don't know that like they might have like a satellite image of a roadway but they don't know that it's actually a roadway until someone drives
00:05:34| across it I guess there's a certain number of people that drive across at a certain speed they'll say um this was either a year ago this is a year ago GPS told us we can take Kelly drive into the
00:05:45| city at one point just wanted to do we needed to get there like a Saturday morning well I thought it might be closed but Google said it's the quickest way it's great we drive we
00:05:54| got there boom it was closed of course it was green there were no other cars on it slowing it down but like this where does Google know when a road is closed what were you
00:06:04| taking navigation at that point was it saying please take us right onto a Kelly Drive okay absolutely yeah but they closed it like Saturday mornings during the like crew races and
00:06:13| stuff at first I don't know who's in charge of telling Google that Kelly Drive is closed on Saturday mornings for that thing you know what I mean like who does that I did hear her story that
00:06:22| there was a road that was like extremely hazardous because it was really steep and like Google knew it was like the shortest route so it would tell people to go down this one road but people were
00:06:30| really not prepared for it so they would crash and had just like be like a mess of people just crashing because they didn't know what the hell they were getting into it's like those people
00:06:39| don't really know how to navigate they just know how to take instruction so I'm a delivery person by trade I used to have to know Northeast Philly and then how to get back to Germantown and
00:06:51| then had to get back out to will grow and then from there if we had somewhere up in Warminster Bucks County oh my god like I'd have to know how to get there afternoon again get the whole these
00:07:01| places because cell phones were flip phones like you're lucky if you could call work you actually used to call in work when you get to your stops you get contains your phone and call work or WIC
00:07:14| hey everything good I just dropped off ten restaurant now whoever may be like yeah let's do it how many you got left I've got like three stops okay see ya because there was no way to get in touch
00:07:23| with Burke no way to find out if they need you to come back or what if you forgot something but what if you didn't know that one of your stops was cancelled or how to get one of your
00:07:33| stops like you would rely anymore it's like especially if you were lost somewhere if you're driving and you just didn't know where you were you'd have to rely on like your dad be like I'm at
00:07:43| this strain that he's like yeah which gas station what's the price of gas 8/10 Donny's dis out gas that would be incredible no no gas stations free would ask for directions that's true
00:07:58| you yeah you'd ask some stranger how about how about asking a string different directions do you even do that anymore that borders on the weird now because
00:08:07| it's like right how do you get to them they're like some songs up can I borrow your phone have you gotten that one I was like my cheapo phone you can have but then what do you keep burning it hey
00:08:24| someone's like looks dirty or disheveled and they need to borrow your phone I don't think I could I don't know my phone is brand new and really expensive songs like ah I let I so I let
00:08:34| a guy who looked like strung out little beat up around the edges maybe looked a little like maybe he did drugs I don't know this for a fact mhm it was a neighbor of mine but I
00:08:45| don't remember saying women once in my whole life can I borrow your phone I got locked out of my house I was like yeah yeah no problem you might even my house but I
00:08:53| didn't want to not let him borrow my phone I didn't uh-huh so let him borrow my phone I was like hovering around him like not looking over his shoulder but constantly within
00:09:02| three feet yet he walked away three feet I'd be like angry feet towards him yeah [Laughter] so he texted his girlfriend white whatever she was three times called her
00:09:13| called her again she wasn't picking up I was like this is weird finally um it was like REI I might have to come back tomorrow from I'm locked out I hope she shows up you know I hope
00:09:24| she shows up outside okay thanks he wasn't less than anyway he forgot to delete the text so I looked and it was like Sharon I need you come back ha little mistake I'm sorry fucked up like
00:09:37| this is bad I need it I can't get in the house and I was like oh well Sharon doesn't know you have a new phone number pal she's probably just
00:09:48| think some Rando what anyway you could almost be an accomplice they're like you gave him the phone and then it'd be like hey you committed a crime you killed her tomorrow at night too it's like what if
00:09:59| someone's like I need a hammer match bags do you have sir now a phone for the delivery person is like anyone can be a delivery person then we hired a guy who can't read or write
00:10:20| possibly and he can do the job just as good as me now it's almost embittering like I'm mad I'm like I'm good at this you have no clue how to get to Porter's daycare and then back like is in the
00:10:35| back roads shut that up you're still googled it you know be like yeah but I got no traffic hahaha I'm like everyone so mad I wish there was a GPS headed just for you we know how to
00:10:47| get to our first three steps jackass so that's gonna be like every job that is like simply mathematical like cashiers I guarantee there's like cashiers like I have to get the numbers
00:10:57| right right if they're writing or not right you imagine if they were a really good cashier like AHA I can get this I'm so good oh my god three dimes and a nickel boom oh my god
00:11:06| geez and now they're like the Machine does like changing really Wow so that goes back three buddies the thing way back let's go way back so they go to back
00:11:18| down 1990s yeah before our lifetime was like 900 BC folks is they had these guys that were the original navigators of the sea right so you doing man right there first that was a trip that was then but
00:11:39| yet I don't know that they are cartographers I think they just tried a knowledge like referring to II do use the ocean be a cartographer yes it draw something to be a cartographer should be
00:11:50| serial and yeah we've been a great one for this episode cursed hog refer the of the sky can he be a star stellar photography I meant I thought it was like always the
00:12:00| UM the see like where the sea meets the land that was a cartographer that's something else no yeah you got it okay well thank you but I'm getting it can you be a cartographer a plan like is
00:12:13| your traveling west through the United States could you be cartography Mountains you can do anything anything that's Malik I've waited so he looking at goals and looking for wildlife for
00:12:23| treatments or mark mountains cool no we're talking about so back to the the sailors of the sea trying to navigate back to port because they didn't know where they were because they had no
00:12:36| landmarks landmarks so they my segue so like they said that in 92 BC they had Arabs that were going around the Horn of Africa and then they would come up and you like the apparently the waters off
00:12:52| the coast of Africa are very violent so they would stay away from the coast but they couldn't see land but they needed to know how far or up or down which is what latitude yeah that's correct yes so
00:13:07| that the latitude was essential for them knowing what ports were coming up so they used something called a Kamal which was like a block of wood essentially with a string attached to it and they
00:13:20| would use the block of wood on the horizon and look at the North Star to figure out see how far off the North Star was from the horizon yeah and they would use a string that was attached to
00:13:32| their like they would hold it in their mouth and like the angle that it made with their mouth to the the board would tell them how far north or south they were interesting now the North Star was
00:13:44| called Polaris and I don't know if you know this why is the North Star important because it's the only star that actually stays exactly north yeah most also stars actually write to it is
00:13:56| bright that's correct it's not the brightest star in the sky I'll help you no no but if it's in the North how did they use that in the southern hemisphere because we're off the coast of Africa
00:14:09| now it's still in the north yeah but you lose sight of it somewhere around the equator there's actually wait is that true yeah that's true you actually didn't know that that's interesting
00:14:19| there's another set of stars called the crux or the Southern Cross which is similar to the North Star which we never hear about the southern version yeah it's less accurate because it's like a
00:14:29| it moves it's like ventilation yeah of stars from pre-session mm hmm hmm so they would use that block and then be able to tell where they were and then take a right to get to land once they
00:14:42| realized where the ports were interesting I actually didn't know that the north etc mm-hmm so there's a variety of those instruments my favorite of which is the
00:14:54| sexton sextant hell yeah so you would use that a sextant works it's essentially that you would know the time and you'd also be measuring the Sun and it's relativity to the horizon so
00:15:12| you could tell the time of the Sun setting versus of the time you thought it was and then if it your time was accurate you could measure where you were that makes us crazy this it sounds
00:15:24| like so much work it is so this goes back to being a cashier is that I guarantee these navigators were super good at their job if you ever look at the hundred-percent the tabulations they
00:15:34| had to make an orderly were so glued it became second nature so they could look at it without using graphs or maps or whatever they're probably like another hour yeah what yeah they would just look
00:15:49| at the Sun and be like oh boy we're 5 miles offshore all the way oh boy so that's the necessity of Maps is the original you know explorers and navigators going out there and trying to
00:16:05| figure out what's out there and how to get back home because if you're float in the middle of the ocean and everything's black I don't know have you ever been out on the ocean when it's no nighttime
00:16:17| I've been there when I couldn't see land in all directions or whatever but never at night I'll be nuts have you yes I went out on my way I was on a cruise so maybe I did yeah the cruise is a little
00:16:29| bit less unnerving because there's so many bright so big and yeah I went out on a tiny boat with like four five people and we went out into the Gulf of Mexico and like the opening the inlet
00:16:42| was next to an amusement park so it was very bright and like all these lights seen that noise isn't stuck as we got farther and farther out he had a motor that was battery driven and the battery
00:16:56| was like loosely connected so he'd like lost it as we were like out there and it was getting darker and darker and like the amusement park was a little speck on the horizon and he was like sparking it
00:17:07| to get it to go and finally he did but in that moment I was just like well shit do I have to like swim for this thing like how do I know like you're gonna go drift I think he would just stay in the
00:17:18| boat wouldn't you yeah unless like I guess you can start rowing I don't even know if he had Dwarfs do your hands I don't know so that goes back to also there's other
00:17:29| people that have these like kind of rudimentary ways of navigating when they're in a boat I was like eh they'd have like birds so birds would like go to shore I think I guess they fly up
00:17:40| they see land and they go Jody come out I mean what if they're on their way the other way they would keep them in cages and then release them so they carry these birds with them and they'd be like
00:17:52| are we close mom do you know birds have a magnetic sense they can tell they do in there yeah it's in the brain that's how they migrate most animals that have this have like a sixth sense but for
00:18:05| them it might not be a six on a bad taste and all that smell so what happens is they just without knowing they know like they intrinsically no the north birds of the
00:18:14| south and there holds it all in one direction longtime leader the other the other did you know they did experiments with people they put something in your pocket that would buds
00:18:26| every time you face north they did this on a college campus after like three months of keeping this thing in your pocket and it would just buzz every time you face the north it would take the
00:18:36| item out of your pocket and anytime you'd walk around campus you'd know where North was lunk you developed a letter that's on it yes SR so this is called and I need a
00:18:48| reception it's a sense in which allows an organism to detect a magnetic field to perceive direction altitude or location mmm so that you can actually like I guess
00:18:58| see the magnetic field and certain animals heal it I guess like said say mother since it wouldn't be like seeing it'll be like feeling it kind of so bacterial arthropods Mullis really then
00:19:11| certain vertebrate vertebrates homing pigeon that's why so that's how they do there yeah that's how they do their dig but humans are not thought to have it but they have a protein called
00:19:22| cryptochrome which is in the eye and can serve this function okay Wikipedia interesting like it we're gonna have to look at this because this leads directly into having a compass
00:19:36| it's nice yeah so the early guys they were like um we have this thing called a lodestone and it's um come ass come past come pass um pass you're gonna have to use this again somewhere get off of this
00:19:58| boat again home on this hope so what they did is they used it to go north and south without the North Star they can do it without know but the original compass was a like a lodestone and lodestone
00:20:13| would orient itself to the north and they finally figured out that you could like hone it in make it more sensitive put it on an iron needle cause you could
00:20:23| magnetized those eating the iron right and iron needles we use in liquid I guess you kind of float it so it yeah yeah well piece of wood Laurens north wire magnetized yeah it points towards
00:20:35| north so it helps with the looking at Polaris you don't really I don't know that would you rely on the needle or pliers I don't know if one told you the other way did you know Saylor started
00:20:46| believing that the needle was actually drawn to the star huh seems kind of cool I like that idea that is a pretty sweet idea cuz you'd be like this price all-powerful they also had
00:20:59| like uh I think like the Vikings like the mythology the Vikings kind of crazy and they had like certain tools as well they had a what was a stone that could refract and reflect light in such a way
00:21:15| that you could tell the prism yeah it's almost like a prism it was call it was a calcite primp they called a Sun stone Icelandic spar calcite Icelandic spar so it was like even if you didn't have the
00:21:28| Sun out but like you had a little like ambient lighting you could still see where the Sun was and then based on like the refractions you could tell like how far the Sun was from the horizon is like
00:21:39| at like a reverse prison it's like a double prism like you had a prison I like intensified the light and then also angled it in a certain way it's crazy yeah but these things don't exist I
00:21:51| don't know why they don't exist now I guess they're not as useful to us because we have technology that said right we have something it'll tell you it right away it's like the Sun was over
00:21:59| there instead of like holding a rock and polishing it and hoping they catch the light in the right way and you know the dust in the air you have to find two of the perfect rock and you know mm-hmm
00:22:09| yeah I don't know where we're going to go from here I thought the early cartographers got a few Biggie's hit him Colin Lee Fatone I can't say how I'm either taller on me
00:22:25| you just don't say the table isn't it's that people might think I don't know the P is there I know it's there Hippocrates he was around of Rome it's actually been recreated
00:22:40| like a thousand years later they redid it this is obsessed with knowing the boundaries and where things lie and recreating some of these maps so guys
00:22:50| like 10-15 years I love the like the way things are shaped on these maps like they're so egocentric like it doesn't make sense how like Rome is probably like massive it's like 90% on the map
00:23:02| and then like the like Asia is like a tiny little sliver and then like Europe is like a tile Britain is a little sliver and then Africa is just like Libya which did explore the most you
00:23:11| know even like he gonna if you know an area like the back your hand you know all the nooks and crannies if you go to a new place you're like look I was in a new place it's they're pretty big so the
00:23:21| the knob the key to making a map is knowing where you are so that's how being a navigator on the Seas plays right into it we didn't cover we covered latitude but we didn't run covered
00:23:32| longitude no need who cares its secondary how do you do that how did they know is it that's still North Star I know isn't it each wall so easier it's probably
00:23:47| literally angle of the North Star no angle in North Star is north-south so if you're doing longitude you know how far you are I guess yeah the other constellations
00:23:58| they're constantly spinning so the earth is kind of wobbling on its axis and also rotating around the side but they're but they're the same every year so every November you can see the Big Dipper in a
00:24:07| little bit so you have this look every I don't know that every day is the same from the previous year you're I thought every 12 months repeated because I thought in November you see the Big
00:24:22| Dipper right but you can double check me right now I thought every you know August you can see Orion and his belt and what's his name displaying the dragon or glass or I
00:24:36| don't know its name but yeah everything I don't know that it's in the same physical location was so like there's a wobble this kind of fits into pre-session
00:24:45| prefecture yeah yeah yeah but there's a guy there's a guy who's like did I think it was Milankovitch he did Studies on like the extinction of the world and all the but the the mass extinctions and he
00:25:01| found that like the combination of the earth wobbling and its location the Sun is like it's not like we are a perfect circle around the Sun we're like we're all blah and we're stretched so right
00:25:13| he found that like every hundreds of thousands of years we've we have all of these things more lines up with the in long lines up with the which way we're facing runs up with which way we're
00:25:27| angled maybe yes but I don't think you can guarantee that the stars positions are the same I thought it was slow enough that it didn't matter it takes like hundreds of thousand years
00:25:37| did you know due to precession which we keep touching on which is like if you spin a path and it's spinning which the top of it is slowly spinning not quite as fast as the top is spinning but it's
00:25:48| moving like this you know that motion like in Inception where he spins the thing and it's slowly doing this while it's spinning very quickly now called preception because of that the North
00:26:00| Star will actually not be in the North within the next like a hundred thousand years or stuff it's gonna wobble and flipped mm-hmm it'll be like North East or something screwed all those sailors
00:26:12| who are using GPS yeah so how do they do longitude I don't know waiting for you to tell me time what we should have covered this in the time episode but like Greenwich Mean Time is a Greenwich
00:26:27| is actually a location just outside of London so the sailors would leave from there and they all survived royal observer yeah Royal Observatory right there so they would use time to tell
00:26:39| where they were in relation of the Sun horizon if they knew what I thought it was they could tell where they work they don't they didn't have time does and then times ones back then but they
00:26:48| had a chronometer right it's like 1714 I think it was the first one I think they attribute that to like a guy named Kendall and then like 50 years later I think 1775 is when they
00:26:59| attribute Harrison to having one and they said that it was accurate to within eight seconds per day so you could be pretty close so where you were within probably minutes well it depends how
00:27:11| long your journey was so know what time it was for you you knew what time it was from the where you started yeah how do you know you were looking at so the sexton is the key is that you can tell
00:27:23| that the Sun is in a certain spot on the horizon the Delta versus where you thought it was that's how you determine where you are right but it's moving as you're moving true but the Sun is in the
00:27:38| same spot at every the same spot at that time in the day if it's directly but how do you know it's been two hours versus one hour if the Sun is directly above you right it's a quote-unquote noon and
00:27:54| you don't know that you're driving east or west or north or south you're not if your clock says that it's two o'clock that's romansky where's your clock where's your clock you just had break
00:28:04| Euler clocks they had a mechanical clock made by the car that's what the damn clock son knows like what yeah they had clocks it told them when you left from where you were it was the right time yep
00:28:19| wherever you end up if your clocks it's four o'clock and the Sun is at 6 o'clock location you're two hours east or west I don't know if they did that right but right something like that sure sure yeah
00:28:32| so that was the big thing like no one can keep a time well enough to tell where they were so the longitude it really messes with people like Columbus where they're trying to figure out where
00:28:41| they were and they are thought they thought the red Japan that way they thought they were Japan I think so that's my guess sure so why are you Tama sorry yeah some of the other
00:28:56| cartographers of the time they in this one yeah you're right aesthetics oh my god he was the first guy I see now the second one Ptolemy Solomon was the first
00:29:08| I'm gonna bring up some maps as you talk huh go for it dude actually don't I didn't write down when he did a map of but I bet it was like Rome plus like an island
00:29:19| I guess did you get a an exam and ER he didn't even cover that guy no no he didn't his map was ridiculous leave or take an exam and er what year cuz I think I skipped him oh I'm gonna say 600
00:29:42| BC no I think I didn't start that that early good what's his like um so what dragons and weird things and lion holding up land and stuff this is the ocean in a circle
00:29:55| okay he has Europe Asia Libya Mediterranean Sea and Black Sea and then like two rivers coming out of it no see I skipped over these cartographers because they
00:30:07| weren't as good margins on all encompassing is the ones I'm talking about now that one's more of a generic yeah you could have guessed I'm gonna bring this up don't forget to change
00:30:17| this here sure there you go yeah Europe Asia Olivia ocean ocean Giants are close with you ohto al-idrisi now um he was from 1154 so we're talking like nine hundred years later almost
00:30:38| they did it took him 15 years he did one of the better maps of Eurasia and North Africa that they use at the time it wasn't the most accomplished map never like wow it's incredible the first world
00:30:51| map I could find was from my manager artist Mercator [Music] how North America looks sexy right it's actually I don't know how to deal - I'm
00:31:08| gonna try rings up it's so here um google this so we can all look at this at one point yeah oh yeah I'll bring this one up there you go yeah through this how do you guys oh
00:31:23| yeah there's that so like let's because this is ridiculous this is 1569 okay Mercator yeah so like he he didn't haven't you can tell obviously where he didn't because we already know we know
00:31:35| we have more information than he did right it's like of course North America is all disordered up top he obviously went to the Gulf of Mexico he I guess he is these like dots that were like
00:31:46| accurate where he was it seems like he made my Canute's and then like South America looks just guess they made it a rest yeah like the inland areas where he
00:31:57| didn't sail he must not have tried well how do you have enough time to go never Inlet in the world no you're gonna killed by natives to someone did like China so here's this giant Antarctica he
00:32:13| doesn't know it take it it's like a land of Ice and Fire I don't know yeah of course and if you were like if you were oh what's the word commissioned by like a king - like plot
00:32:27| the earth what do you do you just like have like a deadly dragon he's not gonna double check you you know I mean Kings not going there to make sure every point was correct so there actually is a video
00:32:45| game that I play it on like Sega Genesis that the whole point of the game was for you to discover the earth and you were actually commissioned by a king to like find all the ports and yeah I don't
00:32:57| remember make sure it's a real game this is known as a real game you could it was amazing this - or something yeah kill all the natives no but you would like form this like fleet of ships you'd have
00:33:13| galleons and then like you'd like fight pirates and like fend your way through the world and then when you came back you're a baller like you're like even though Christopher Columbus is probably
00:33:22| a terrible person you come back and you're just like boom here's some special spices you know here's my map and pay me a boatload of money and I'm gonna go and sail the
00:33:31| world again cuz that's what that's what I do I'm an explorer I look a pretty repetitive game okay yeah you really enjoy your riches or you just going back out there to work again took me a long
00:33:41| time to find Rio de Janeiro but I did it mmm discovered it Carnivale baby so pull up this one for the audience because this is an interesting exercise MacArthur's universal corrective Matt
00:34:02| McArthur so on MC AR th so MacArthur I think his name was like Tom MacArthur I forget the first name he's an Australian scientist mattnic or whatever he was one Boston but I oh you'd been a key which
00:34:18| is January 26 ironically enough this is so cool right yeah it's a cool secret January 26 1979 he made a map the way it was meant to be I'm sorry Elliott to the north or the
00:34:31| south to the top yeah so if you look in I downloaded another map that was a little clearer as I make you feel dude if you stare at it long enough and all the names are right side
00:34:42| up like I'm looking at Alaska right now I'm like that's the weirdest thing I've ever seen and then you get over to Eurasia look come on Norway and Sweden and stuff that's not natural it looks
00:34:53| like we're in insula that's like inverted it's like a chubby leader like even Australia looks like a cat or something coming down to attack the rest of the land it doesn't it's a Cerberus
00:35:06| wiener yeah but even Africa that doesn't look it up Siam it's weird how we've been garner to look at maps a certain way South America I mean yeah South America
00:35:20| looks like I don't get it I'm like it's just upside-down corrected map of the world but he wanted to make it so that you know what if the staff was the top because we have a
00:35:30| North top right Prejudice yeah we do her that we certainly do yeah I actually know where it began us red red nan aljazeera piece by Nick Danforth I love the name of its article
00:35:46| it was a cartographic history of what's up I was like huh clever so Arabs and Chinese when they were making their maps and might be just see ii-era
00:36:00| just after BC yeah up was always self they think the Chinese made the match with South is up and that um Arab countries are just copying them it makes sense for a country that has to travel
00:36:13| south or one direction right like I mean the waters down there like that's yeah there we go they all travel this way that's the way you're traveling right but in their bias
00:36:23| they're thinking about it unlike an outward is upward right hmm if you're gonna get it's the same thing with like if you're on the ground and the horizon is south of you like below
00:36:36| you then the North is up it's a way like the things you can't you don't know or the sky early Egypt a lot of Dermot's South was up they think that because the Nile meant North I believe and they
00:36:50| figured wherever the water was going was down because of gravity that makes sense doesn't it that's that's a weird yeah that's a creepy ways when I crazy but think about it a just that it's like
00:37:02| don't know this it's just a theory but think about cuz water is traveling down to the lowest point well that musky babble what stores how homeworld Thor Thor his homeworld Asgard it's like that
00:37:16| waterfall at the end of Asgard just kind of like drops into nothingness floats yeah one of those people had that fear because they didn't have a map they didn't know that it was circular flat
00:37:26| earth or need some maps might get there in G to medieval Europe all that to you're up was to the east because they were constantly battling the people to the east right yes
00:37:43| military advantage yeah religious even you know implications but then around 15 modest becoming think Spain and Italy were some of the top map makers at the time s we're well aware um up was North
00:38:03| according to them and they were also sailing particularly all her maps are made by sailing so they were using the ocean and when you use the ocean as opposed to people on foot etc you're
00:38:15| probably using the North Star yeah well the world powers at that time or probably when Britain France Spain in Italy you manage and they were at the bottom like we just looked at that weird
00:38:26| man speaking wish did you switch you back to us yeah I did thank you excellent check yeah so my man's second century colony the Hellenic cartographer they tried to
00:38:40| recreate stuff in the 16th century a lot of these Spanish and Italian people Gerard is Mercator Marco sramana smart keen Waldseemuller Rojo which is a worsening I can find it I was like home
00:38:53| I got an idea there are so many names I was like no encourage to remember all these no no no and I wrote them down and I just wanted to mention them but um I look at their
00:39:02| maps trying to recur you stuff and this is a common thing with old maps and flat earth maps and maps from hundreds and hundred years ago they all have like angels or tariffs blowing wind and shit
00:39:15| all over it sirens like lingzi monsters like whoa I didn't know they're just the world and this is the coolest map I've ever seen but it doesn't make any sense it's like an old guy who has to blow
00:39:30| wind from the east he's a blown win 24/7 what does a guy have a life does he have a job you pay taxes there's just blowing wind anyway that's
00:39:43| as far as I got on maps actually I had some other stuff on the different kind of maps like did um so we don't ever tell people to check out other podcasts but if you did Vsauce Maps
00:39:54| episode does an episode on maps and now they're not accurate because the world is a 3d object right mm-hmm it's a globe it's a 3d thing any time you try an imprint a 3d image onto 2d you have
00:40:08| to distort one of two axes one of two no one up to pollicis area or on JDate yeah right so what we use if you look at Google Maps Google Maps uses a more Canadian production named after a man
00:40:29| Mercator so if you look at that map you go to Google you freaking like I love the maps on Google boom got some Mercator projection it's one kind of mat it's not every map if you go
00:40:40| on it keeps the shape so good good Sweden you're like I see those lines oh yeah you'll get Africa you're like that's the perfect line oh crap you like certain countries like they have the
00:40:49| good lines problem is they're not as big as you think they are because they distort air gap on his video which we wouldn't tell you to watch because you want to keep watching us he does a video
00:41:01| where it shows how Greenland is about the size of Africa on the Mercator projection right problem is if you put them together in real life you could put Greenland in there you put the United
00:41:13| States in there you put China in there you clearly try to bring up the the winkel Tripel projection well that's another interesting one so that one the National Geographic does not use the
00:41:24| Mercator projection they use the pencil house we call winkel Tripel let me get it projection and come with us a little funny it's like dinner it's like longer yeah it's a very obviously makes
00:41:38| Greenland very small compared to Africa Africa is wood Q day yeah if you think about it so in any of these maps you kind of have to either sacrifice area or shape they're really one of the really
00:41:52| accurate ones is called the gall Peters that in it if you look it up all the areas are actually almost perfect then it's GA ll - Peters not sure of its peak terms or Peter's clicked on it I got it
00:42:06| but if you look at it it's like it's thin as hell everything looks distorted yeah smash the flap or areas are more accurate so any 2d map you look at is actually
00:42:19| not accurate yeah you have to sacrifice one of two things shape or area it makes you you're up look extremely small and you wonder why like I mean you don't wonder why the people who are in power
00:42:30| will try to make their countries look larger so you want your country facing north and you want your country looking big right yeah yes that's a thing I guess there's like dozens of maps you
00:42:44| could use that very area and shape there's butterfly maps that flip open there's the mall we'd mall wide it looks nice and it's the one that you see that um is in a lot of science books it has
00:43:03| they break it apart by the oceans so there's like a hemisphere here hand hemisphere here cap hemisphere here type in um good Hamo lousine project i don't know i don't worry about I can't
00:43:15| yeah can do it if you've looked at a science book this is a map you probably say bring about a combination of like area and shape but like they break it into like eight hemispheres and they're
00:43:25| all half connected it's a weird look but you've seen it before you're like uh uh I used to see it I'm like you're about to wrap it on a globe and also yeah kind of lobe is not a perfect sphere so it's
00:43:36| a weird kind of stretched shape or along the equator so it makes it very odd which is I know this have you ever seen a map of the center's the other half of the world like you know how long America
00:43:50| and North America is to the west yeah and you're east you ever seen a map that does left us it has like this side mm-hmm it's weird looking to one of them and upside down you'll be like that's
00:44:00| not the world what kind of a lie buddy like what kind of feel like yeah weird like anxious feeling when you feel like the world isn't how you thought it it's strange it's like it's like I don't know
00:44:11| who I am when are you looking a map like that so - I don't even know what I'm doing here it's like it feels really strange to not know I don't know how the people who sent it back then like my
00:44:22| father is one of the best people in the world with directions with directions yeah I swear to God my dad because he was a delivery driver by expertise or whatever and drove all over
00:44:34| the city outside he would tell me all right if you want a go to pen restaurant you're gonna go up you know Easton Road you're in it 152 you're gonna make a left it's right by the ice cream shop
00:44:44| I'll say okay dad not really listen I'm just saying like yeah I hear that before fun which is you're gonna go down roads gonna split like 500 feet 500 yards someone between
00:44:55| there you figure it out when it splits you're gonna see a black band it's always Park bears I'm dead man might not be there he's like there's gonna be a black man there go left at the van okay
00:45:05| someone go okay I used to write down little mini notes which is crazy anyone who's under 30 has never written down notes for where to go yeah but this is for my father for
00:45:17| delivery so I was the cool I better get this right then he'd be like the road curved off to the left a little bit just see like a bridge usually there's an old guy smoking a
00:45:26| pipe okay dad that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard and he like it's just usually it's like going to a delivery one time and I'm following his directions and the black man was there
00:45:38| is a broken-down vehicle that's not too hard I get it was there there was a guy smoking a pipe I am not kidding one time in front of a 7-eleven or something like
00:45:49| that like a comedian sword I made the leftist spot and I was like hopefully crap and it went I made my delivery and to say I think my bed it's like he's incredible directions
00:46:00| and the fact that there's GPS now he's like trying to tell people directions or like he's like what you're what I'm gonna do is like six blocks usually the roads closed because of a car accident
00:46:10| like my dad's like prognosticating and they're like yeah we're something GPS it he's like I'm just telling you so there's I remember times when people like they come to my house and they
00:46:23| don't know how to get back to the highway and really I got to your house the wrong way once so the next time I went I took the same route because it look familiar to me uh-huh I got to your
00:46:34| house wrong three times once these are they kept going the wrong split it one of the no codes or something right past the buck hotel whoops no well revealing so that was my old
00:46:44| house my new house literally if you're on the highway you had you get another neighborhood you make a left you make another left you make a right and then
00:46:54| you go down to a certain street and I named it make a left and then another right so like people when you give them like five directions just like it's like a lot to people nowadays what tweeter
00:47:07| throw it back to like a videogame minimaps like Zelda or like an EverQuest type of thing anything where you're trying to navigate like back then if you're playing a video game and someone
00:47:20| said oh it's over that hill there's gonna be a guy dressed in red and he's gonna point you in the right direction from there or like uh-oh was perfect one like a like an oblivion test like style
00:47:31| game like oh that's a crazy game those have some right huh morrowind morrowind would just be like a bunch of jagged Hills people that can navigate that like in their brains it must have
00:47:42| fixated like how to navigate things that don't make sense or like there's a weird sort of understanding yeah nothing bang needle reception here talked about earlier but like no such thing but it is
00:47:57| exactly like there's there's people who are absolutely terrible with directions and it's surprising that they can't function a normal life when they have to deviate from what they know or what they
00:48:06| already do so here's the problem you don't have to do it anymore you don't you could do you live the same life you wanted over and over again there are people watching this video
00:48:17| they don't know how to get to work without GPS I guarantee it maybe not guarantee it no I find that really difficult to like me like to always have to use GPS but it's not a
00:48:34| big like to do it isn't a big deal it's easy I do it when I so this is another thing so you know I was bragging about being a delivery guy I happen to know my way around the city etc etc when like
00:48:47| the pest let's watch this bright way you can hear the last year or two of working as a delivery guy mmm-hmm don't do it anymore um GPS most of my stops
00:48:58| just to know that you have the shortest route fastest route yeah and sometimes I would find a couple blocks I'd be like oh cool I can cut this street that's awesome
00:49:07| how does GPS work it does work it's not I'm not knocking it I think there's on the order of like 24 satellites that are orbiting the Earth and there's multiple iterations of GPS
00:49:19| though there's there's 24 that I think they move about double the orbit of the earth we just 24 satellites are giving us all this information yeah so like GPS is a like a unidirectional thing they
00:49:34| are constantly spamming the earth with their where they are are their speed what they see what direction they're going that kind of a thing I think they just say which satellite
00:49:45| they are and what time they think it is so then the our computers do the rest yeah it's almost like a seismic data like when you have an earthquake you know how strong it was a certain
00:49:59| distance away so you can like map out from different locations how strong it was to reorient to the epicenter you want me to blow your brain
00:50:07| oh yes waves and P waves baby you know S waves true travel through liquid different speed than P waves travel through liquids like the deficit of the crust of the earth right you combine the
00:50:19| two and you figure out how much liquid its travel through how much solid its travel through and where their origin was it we still how deep or whatever you think it's drawing the two circles they
00:50:30| intersect and to spy they they could only could have been north or south you get a third one you know exactly where it is yes triangulation ironic cuz that's try oh is that why it's
00:50:41| triangulation because it's three things mmm that were using yeah the GPS satellites I think there's a minimum of six so you have full coverage of the entire earth with GPS so you can
00:50:55| pick up the signal from any one of those actually you need three of them right so maybe it's like a double factor of tation yeah they probably a combination yeah
00:51:03| multiple safety so yeah you can tell exactly where you are with those six satellites that will probably be accessible from your phone or whatever the device you have do you know how
00:51:15| fucked would be if GPS went down so like ships would have hard time navigating I guarantee like whatever you order from China might take a while to get here I don't know if people would know how to
00:51:28| they'd say on the right direction but they might be off a little bit I'm worried more about day-to-day things that use that technology like trucking complete yeah like anything how about
00:51:41| any more computer driven vehicles or missiles yeah it doesn't have GPS I don't know that the missiles be able to track where they needed to go you just be spraying and praying this military
00:51:58| thing I've heard you say military for like a stint uh I kind of wish I was I'd be a veteran but I was never in the military you lightly just wanted for the discounts I did work on our dealerships
00:52:09| I worked on the et Cie Hawkeye radar which is like that plane with the giant black dome on top with only like two of those or maybe three you could cover like the entire United States radar for
00:52:22| Air Force stuff and then in conjunction everyone else with that site worked on the anti-missile missiles the Patriot I added anti-ballistic missiles or whatever the call of it not the missiles
00:52:36| out that are incoming yeah interesting so GPS is essential for telling a missile where it is and where to go now on Google News tracks us every day gives me some really good suggestions for what
00:52:49| to read on and some really clickbait be awful terrible articles oh yeah lately I've been getting ones for the earth is ready to reverse its magnetic field yeah
00:53:00| that's not true but I didn't think it was at all I mean I think it's more of a level it happens every so in those thousand years we maybe were new question mark one of those articles flat
00:53:11| earther article not quite close to it so the earth does reverse its magnetic poles right yeah I think that was part of them Milankovitch cycles okay now are we do in a general sense in that
00:53:28| we're doing for as you know supervolcano or I don't know I guess you wouldn't know it's not really cyclic it's more random hmm you want us to ponder for a moment I do it's like I did with that
00:53:45| everything for like GPS signals now for compasses maybe you're just points out oh yeah we're due for something okay some kind of natural disaster I want everyone to
00:54:09| tune in what happens hmm would we be good at consoling the populace or like funding the flames of chaos well I guess the only could be anywhere in our homes in your dishwasher dishwasher was that
00:54:34| bur box no what was it four blocks away mmm-hmm the breadbox bird something by bolt right yeah if you had invisible monsters that were attacking you and you had somebody that was like trying to
00:54:47| tell you like how to defeat them and he was making jokes crank and see if Emma does know that's I'm just saying if we were trying to tell people how to save their lives and everyone's like by the
00:55:06| way we don't know for sure but what if the keys water I forgot that's the reason I brought it like that who's the best mat guy I know he's at this direction guy I know he knows how to get
00:55:19| everywhere in everybody area he knows every highway every shortcut he always says one thing to me cuz I'm a big science fan he isn't and it applies to this directly he says how do you know
00:55:32| that they made a map tracked the outline of the city in the word means the word and the peninsula comes out this far he's always like how do you know that's exactly it and like I know dad they got
00:55:46| paid to do it he's like how do you know that I'm always like dad it's in a book it's real and to this day him asking that makes me think
00:55:57| I mean cuckoo be off by a few meters on a few coastlines good there's two names they're two things you triggered there it's like it's all upsetting if yeah it's you don't you only know what's
00:56:13| around you what you can visually perceive so if I'm looking I'm solipsistic and fully believe it I can only believe in the things that are in this room because that's what I see so
00:56:23| like the people you'll see you can touch the people back then it didn't have a map they were probably more heavily sob Cystic because they were like I can believe in what this is not like
00:56:32| technology and science so happy laughs we're bullshit yeah we think I mean I'll see dragon comes for you if you cross the doors I say Hansel our maps aren't bullshit or half of the stuff we have is
00:56:44| in bullshit I'm not saying it is I'm saying it happened that was bullshit for them wouldn't it apply that half could be bullshit for us at the information we get has cancer this causes a problem
00:56:56| this is healthy this isn't there's so many overlays of all the pictures of the earth that you have to figure that they have it down pretty well Brian are we getting into the blue marble picture
00:57:06| yeah though so you leaned on this before were up is north or not the blue marble picture is actually which is the one everyone loves it's the most famous picture taken in 1974 by Apollo
00:57:18| something follow something I'm gonna look anyway it's actually flipped the picture is where South is north and North is up or North is down south is up and NASA on sending it back etc etc
00:57:34| hollow eight 1988 wait let me mention for 45,000 km that's kilometres for your folks anyway the picture is upside down it was actually taken upside down so
00:57:52| we flipped it to make it look like the North was up and then also like cloud cover to like figure out what the continents look like you have to take multiple pictures and then overlay them
00:58:02| if they overlay a lot yeah and then so I worked with some people that also did like like lunar samples when you have a rock so there's like a geographic informational system - so like in order
00:58:15| to reconstruct 3d things like there's a way that you like arc GIS is what it's called is how you reconstruct 3d objects people would do that on lunar samples to reconstruct the lunar rocks and see how
00:58:27| they fit together why porousness matters apparently I don't I'm not a rock guy I'm rocking hard but I'm not a lot guy every time we talk about the planets you are oh yeah
00:58:39| this kind of ties it all back together maps are us trying to figure out in the world what we're looking at where we live what's going on around us it's visual it's about ready cut and dry we
00:58:52| like lines I mean it's a solid line the coastline isn't a solid line ever right yep like the separation between like States they give like what Utah Colorado and like Nevada they just arbitrarily
00:59:07| like there's a line there that's separation but that doesn't happen ever in nature nature is that bizarre that we are the only people are like I would like things in cubes to bring him back
00:59:19| to that seemed very good that seems very us like minecraft no I'm going with money I'm gonna packs up to a certain point no you know an up to a certain plan I would so like the original thing
00:59:34| I was gonna talk about when we first started this is like getting lost and now there are very few video games that you can actually like wander out and be lost forever that's a good point
00:59:43| minecraft is one of the few where you can wander out into the wilderness and then be like how do I get home you may go home yeah you start making home right there thing that's cool
00:59:53| oddly enough Nick and I both played Minecraft together and we essentially made a North Star out of lava we had a tower of lava that led us back to our original home
01:00:05| yeah spiral spiral lava yeah we we all encased in glass to protect it yeah I think they make it look cooler that's better cuz I never said that but is that like
01:00:21| providing a beacon a lighthouse that's essentially cartography right I mean you're providing a sense of where you are well you you want to know where you are if you want to know where your
01:00:35| boundaries are you want to know how to get to here how to get back how far it is from here and back in a way you want to know the logistics we're now heading there and banking ready to get food yeah
01:00:47| easy for me to get this yeah I'm out here can I get this every this happens in delivery driving if you're doing a delivery to Northeast Philly and someone tells you they have a South Philly
01:00:58| delivery you don't do it on the same run yeah if someone says they had Fox Chase and Northeast Philly you're like yeah right there perfect but there's weird things that you want
01:01:10| to know logistics you wanna know logically where everything's connected where all the edges are where the boundaries are what's close to what what do we need to get to what and where I
01:01:20| find ironic is that according to maps according to different maps we're not always right there's no one map there's no one picture of the world there's no one way to live your life path you
01:01:34| choose ways to get to someplace and it's all different spirals out of control spiral out spiral out yeah it's like read and write no yeah black and white hello I see I forgot now lateralis but I
01:01:56| never Alice spiral out folks I don't I don't know but we should anyway check your Maps folks thanks for tuning in if you want to donate to our map patreon please if you want to see secret
01:02:11| episodes we've been hiding from you please donate please read the book longitude by that guy that I never read call the latitude check it out
01:02:21| well it's the longitude are you sure yeah would recover navigation star sex guy we come all Minecraft our fire Rob Lowe Chinese Southern Cross and lares so Northstar Europe the rotation
01:02:35| of the earth non-stop of the mauville in to reblog al-idrisi was the man key Harrisons chronometer chronometer yeah 2d versus a low altitude we didn't touch on long
01:02:49| after Jordan also somehow sang stones this is GPS satellite images shape roadmaps Google Google Earth landmarks my guy all those explorers and photographers did you know um the
01:03:03| electromagnetic frequency if it was spread from New York LA right that's a visual frequency like that's just electromagnetic frequency boom boom like Fruities camera range radio a it's every
01:03:16| kind of wait the visual weights the ones that you can see with with your eyes are only small front 180 meters I don't know if that means that 100 nanometers like I think initially Alice knew miles or 3000
01:03:32| kilometres from New York to LA does anyone know it's like a few thousand miles okay so if that were the entire length of electromagnetic frequencies that are possible and they only see the
01:03:43| nanometers we only see 100 nanometers like point zero zero percent something and at point zero zero zero one meters I like how you use miles and then conversion meters I thank you listen
01:04:00| because the only way I know is how many kilometers it is from that later yeah oh yeah you're measuring United States skating ah Oh point zero zero three five percent
01:04:23| that's what oh that's not terrible yeah except that that's all we can see you ways to see things yeah check our radiation episode that's exciting us that was number one it's done up
01:04:40| thanks for bringing the heat folks thanks for listening if you went to any money for me to fix my hair please do if you want to donate money to fix Nick fix him permanently so you can have babies
01:04:54| well also accept that money I get them fixed oh good night guys thanks for joining us we like you we like you
00:00:19| how do you get there join us so I'm Dan and I'm Nick bugs for old friends dissecting one topic at a time people technology media we've got it all covered each discussion here is a
00:00:41| deep dive in or unique perspective the taboo forbidden subjects they're all on the chopping block baby we don't pander to popular opinion we might even get a little bit dirty morning this podcast
00:00:55| make it a mature language and sexual content and this for entertainment purposes only so join us have a good time open up your earholes we're gonna fondle
00:01:06| your follicles [Music] come back at it look I got it we're live we're here where I live we're live now here we're live I'm leaning
00:01:32| over here just to get a little mood lighting on there you know I was looking all pasty look brighter in a different way yeah we just I think we did almost certainly five minutes ago yeah but
00:01:47| we're on bling we're here so Luke's gonna talk about maps and navigation and uncharted hog Rafi like hair hmm yeah I don't know where go with the hair but I just think it's uncharted and is it that
00:02:05| filthy ratty in and oily no it's shampooed that's fluffy uh-huh okay it's not all Finch and Buddha I will tell you when it's dirty and oily no it's dude shampooed and fluffy I
00:02:16| don't know what to do with it so you carry any maps with you daily no no cuz you know where you're going right how do you know cuz you use the map once this is interesting I didn't we're going here
00:02:30| this early but so by trade I was a delivery driver yeah you know we did look for landmarks yes we did and street names that are very important and knowing the city and
00:02:42| what been using roadways and highways connect the cities so in your in your mind there's like a familiarity with like a street corner there's different things you're looking for you can kind
00:02:54| of sense I think as a human being you can't sense like which direction you're going north south east west good says by the song and you can probably tell by like just the way things feel around you
00:03:05| where you are especially in cities are like places that have very unique landmarks yes I agree so that's getting around well you know I needed to get out of the
00:03:17| city and I just know it was north I could do that I couldn't find by sure Avenue or 5454 fishway Drive or anything like that without a GPS or anything could we you mean to tell me we used to
00:03:31| have to find places before googling them so that brings out like the road map like the road map used to have this like all the streets in an index of the back of it and you'd have
00:03:41| to look for that name and then find the square like c4 and then you go to c4 and you see that and then you track it back to where you are you might have to fold the map a few times if it's like a lot
00:03:52| different page and then you kind of like chart your course remember you write on it yeah you might live in a bad boy yeah that's crazy those days are I don't know when that
00:04:04| stopped really I remember I used to get them for my parents like going to college cuz I don't think it was a thing yet like it I don't think what was it called Oh Carmen do you have a Garmin
00:04:16| remember yeah so the Garmin GPS that existed in college for sure for sure right probably by the time we're in high school bitter spot really expensive then so it's probably by the time we were
00:04:27| college they were mass-produced and you had a unit that went on your windshield that just gave you directions yeah wasn't part of your front people some people still use them I don't doubt it I
00:04:39| don't doubt it I don't know how that company survives though check this one though um how many people you see driving day-to-day that have their phone on their console and you can see the map
00:04:47| open this is what gets me a little weird people so I think the way Google Maps works which is the one most people use is it um it live updates everyone else who's looking at Google Maps so I
00:05:02| because you're a GPS at that point and your public knowledge I guess uh yeah I think it does it for would you traffic right that's what we really need yeah right right but that's what I'm getting
00:05:12| at so if all these people were on ninety five and it knows it's quicker to go off ninety five or whatever you're using all their gps's your network I would even not to go in there yeah yeah it's kind
00:05:25| of a crazy thing I also do it for like roadway say I don't know that like they might have like a satellite image of a roadway but they don't know that it's actually a roadway until someone drives
00:05:34| across it I guess there's a certain number of people that drive across at a certain speed they'll say um this was either a year ago this is a year ago GPS told us we can take Kelly drive into the
00:05:45| city at one point just wanted to do we needed to get there like a Saturday morning well I thought it might be closed but Google said it's the quickest way it's great we drive we
00:05:54| got there boom it was closed of course it was green there were no other cars on it slowing it down but like this where does Google know when a road is closed what were you
00:06:04| taking navigation at that point was it saying please take us right onto a Kelly Drive okay absolutely yeah but they closed it like Saturday mornings during the like crew races and
00:06:13| stuff at first I don't know who's in charge of telling Google that Kelly Drive is closed on Saturday mornings for that thing you know what I mean like who does that I did hear her story that
00:06:22| there was a road that was like extremely hazardous because it was really steep and like Google knew it was like the shortest route so it would tell people to go down this one road but people were
00:06:30| really not prepared for it so they would crash and had just like be like a mess of people just crashing because they didn't know what the hell they were getting into it's like those people
00:06:39| don't really know how to navigate they just know how to take instruction so I'm a delivery person by trade I used to have to know Northeast Philly and then how to get back to Germantown and
00:06:51| then had to get back out to will grow and then from there if we had somewhere up in Warminster Bucks County oh my god like I'd have to know how to get there afternoon again get the whole these
00:07:01| places because cell phones were flip phones like you're lucky if you could call work you actually used to call in work when you get to your stops you get contains your phone and call work or WIC
00:07:14| hey everything good I just dropped off ten restaurant now whoever may be like yeah let's do it how many you got left I've got like three stops okay see ya because there was no way to get in touch
00:07:23| with Burke no way to find out if they need you to come back or what if you forgot something but what if you didn't know that one of your stops was cancelled or how to get one of your
00:07:33| stops like you would rely anymore it's like especially if you were lost somewhere if you're driving and you just didn't know where you were you'd have to rely on like your dad be like I'm at
00:07:43| this strain that he's like yeah which gas station what's the price of gas 8/10 Donny's dis out gas that would be incredible no no gas stations free would ask for directions that's true
00:07:58| you yeah you'd ask some stranger how about how about asking a string different directions do you even do that anymore that borders on the weird now because
00:08:07| it's like right how do you get to them they're like some songs up can I borrow your phone have you gotten that one I was like my cheapo phone you can have but then what do you keep burning it hey
00:08:24| someone's like looks dirty or disheveled and they need to borrow your phone I don't think I could I don't know my phone is brand new and really expensive songs like ah I let I so I let
00:08:34| a guy who looked like strung out little beat up around the edges maybe looked a little like maybe he did drugs I don't know this for a fact mhm it was a neighbor of mine but I
00:08:45| don't remember saying women once in my whole life can I borrow your phone I got locked out of my house I was like yeah yeah no problem you might even my house but I
00:08:53| didn't want to not let him borrow my phone I didn't uh-huh so let him borrow my phone I was like hovering around him like not looking over his shoulder but constantly within
00:09:02| three feet yet he walked away three feet I'd be like angry feet towards him yeah [Laughter] so he texted his girlfriend white whatever she was three times called her
00:09:13| called her again she wasn't picking up I was like this is weird finally um it was like REI I might have to come back tomorrow from I'm locked out I hope she shows up you know I hope
00:09:24| she shows up outside okay thanks he wasn't less than anyway he forgot to delete the text so I looked and it was like Sharon I need you come back ha little mistake I'm sorry fucked up like
00:09:37| this is bad I need it I can't get in the house and I was like oh well Sharon doesn't know you have a new phone number pal she's probably just
00:09:48| think some Rando what anyway you could almost be an accomplice they're like you gave him the phone and then it'd be like hey you committed a crime you killed her tomorrow at night too it's like what if
00:09:59| someone's like I need a hammer match bags do you have sir now a phone for the delivery person is like anyone can be a delivery person then we hired a guy who can't read or write
00:10:20| possibly and he can do the job just as good as me now it's almost embittering like I'm mad I'm like I'm good at this you have no clue how to get to Porter's daycare and then back like is in the
00:10:35| back roads shut that up you're still googled it you know be like yeah but I got no traffic hahaha I'm like everyone so mad I wish there was a GPS headed just for you we know how to
00:10:47| get to our first three steps jackass so that's gonna be like every job that is like simply mathematical like cashiers I guarantee there's like cashiers like I have to get the numbers
00:10:57| right right if they're writing or not right you imagine if they were a really good cashier like AHA I can get this I'm so good oh my god three dimes and a nickel boom oh my god
00:11:06| geez and now they're like the Machine does like changing really Wow so that goes back three buddies the thing way back let's go way back so they go to back
00:11:18| down 1990s yeah before our lifetime was like 900 BC folks is they had these guys that were the original navigators of the sea right so you doing man right there first that was a trip that was then but
00:11:39| yet I don't know that they are cartographers I think they just tried a knowledge like referring to II do use the ocean be a cartographer yes it draw something to be a cartographer should be
00:11:50| serial and yeah we've been a great one for this episode cursed hog refer the of the sky can he be a star stellar photography I meant I thought it was like always the
00:12:00| UM the see like where the sea meets the land that was a cartographer that's something else no yeah you got it okay well thank you but I'm getting it can you be a cartographer a plan like is
00:12:13| your traveling west through the United States could you be cartography Mountains you can do anything anything that's Malik I've waited so he looking at goals and looking for wildlife for
00:12:23| treatments or mark mountains cool no we're talking about so back to the the sailors of the sea trying to navigate back to port because they didn't know where they were because they had no
00:12:36| landmarks landmarks so they my segue so like they said that in 92 BC they had Arabs that were going around the Horn of Africa and then they would come up and you like the apparently the waters off
00:12:52| the coast of Africa are very violent so they would stay away from the coast but they couldn't see land but they needed to know how far or up or down which is what latitude yeah that's correct yes so
00:13:07| that the latitude was essential for them knowing what ports were coming up so they used something called a Kamal which was like a block of wood essentially with a string attached to it and they
00:13:20| would use the block of wood on the horizon and look at the North Star to figure out see how far off the North Star was from the horizon yeah and they would use a string that was attached to
00:13:32| their like they would hold it in their mouth and like the angle that it made with their mouth to the the board would tell them how far north or south they were interesting now the North Star was
00:13:44| called Polaris and I don't know if you know this why is the North Star important because it's the only star that actually stays exactly north yeah most also stars actually write to it is
00:13:56| bright that's correct it's not the brightest star in the sky I'll help you no no but if it's in the North how did they use that in the southern hemisphere because we're off the coast of Africa
00:14:09| now it's still in the north yeah but you lose sight of it somewhere around the equator there's actually wait is that true yeah that's true you actually didn't know that that's interesting
00:14:19| there's another set of stars called the crux or the Southern Cross which is similar to the North Star which we never hear about the southern version yeah it's less accurate because it's like a
00:14:29| it moves it's like ventilation yeah of stars from pre-session mm hmm hmm so they would use that block and then be able to tell where they were and then take a right to get to land once they
00:14:42| realized where the ports were interesting I actually didn't know that the north etc mm-hmm so there's a variety of those instruments my favorite of which is the
00:14:54| sexton sextant hell yeah so you would use that a sextant works it's essentially that you would know the time and you'd also be measuring the Sun and it's relativity to the horizon so
00:15:12| you could tell the time of the Sun setting versus of the time you thought it was and then if it your time was accurate you could measure where you were that makes us crazy this it sounds
00:15:24| like so much work it is so this goes back to being a cashier is that I guarantee these navigators were super good at their job if you ever look at the hundred-percent the tabulations they
00:15:34| had to make an orderly were so glued it became second nature so they could look at it without using graphs or maps or whatever they're probably like another hour yeah what yeah they would just look
00:15:49| at the Sun and be like oh boy we're 5 miles offshore all the way oh boy so that's the necessity of Maps is the original you know explorers and navigators going out there and trying to
00:16:05| figure out what's out there and how to get back home because if you're float in the middle of the ocean and everything's black I don't know have you ever been out on the ocean when it's no nighttime
00:16:17| I've been there when I couldn't see land in all directions or whatever but never at night I'll be nuts have you yes I went out on my way I was on a cruise so maybe I did yeah the cruise is a little
00:16:29| bit less unnerving because there's so many bright so big and yeah I went out on a tiny boat with like four five people and we went out into the Gulf of Mexico and like the opening the inlet
00:16:42| was next to an amusement park so it was very bright and like all these lights seen that noise isn't stuck as we got farther and farther out he had a motor that was battery driven and the battery
00:16:56| was like loosely connected so he'd like lost it as we were like out there and it was getting darker and darker and like the amusement park was a little speck on the horizon and he was like sparking it
00:17:07| to get it to go and finally he did but in that moment I was just like well shit do I have to like swim for this thing like how do I know like you're gonna go drift I think he would just stay in the
00:17:18| boat wouldn't you yeah unless like I guess you can start rowing I don't even know if he had Dwarfs do your hands I don't know so that goes back to also there's other
00:17:29| people that have these like kind of rudimentary ways of navigating when they're in a boat I was like eh they'd have like birds so birds would like go to shore I think I guess they fly up
00:17:40| they see land and they go Jody come out I mean what if they're on their way the other way they would keep them in cages and then release them so they carry these birds with them and they'd be like
00:17:52| are we close mom do you know birds have a magnetic sense they can tell they do in there yeah it's in the brain that's how they migrate most animals that have this have like a sixth sense but for
00:18:05| them it might not be a six on a bad taste and all that smell so what happens is they just without knowing they know like they intrinsically no the north birds of the
00:18:14| south and there holds it all in one direction longtime leader the other the other did you know they did experiments with people they put something in your pocket that would buds
00:18:26| every time you face north they did this on a college campus after like three months of keeping this thing in your pocket and it would just buzz every time you face the north it would take the
00:18:36| item out of your pocket and anytime you'd walk around campus you'd know where North was lunk you developed a letter that's on it yes SR so this is called and I need a
00:18:48| reception it's a sense in which allows an organism to detect a magnetic field to perceive direction altitude or location mmm so that you can actually like I guess
00:18:58| see the magnetic field and certain animals heal it I guess like said say mother since it wouldn't be like seeing it'll be like feeling it kind of so bacterial arthropods Mullis really then
00:19:11| certain vertebrate vertebrates homing pigeon that's why so that's how they do there yeah that's how they do their dig but humans are not thought to have it but they have a protein called
00:19:22| cryptochrome which is in the eye and can serve this function okay Wikipedia interesting like it we're gonna have to look at this because this leads directly into having a compass
00:19:36| it's nice yeah so the early guys they were like um we have this thing called a lodestone and it's um come ass come past come pass um pass you're gonna have to use this again somewhere get off of this
00:19:58| boat again home on this hope so what they did is they used it to go north and south without the North Star they can do it without know but the original compass was a like a lodestone and lodestone
00:20:13| would orient itself to the north and they finally figured out that you could like hone it in make it more sensitive put it on an iron needle cause you could
00:20:23| magnetized those eating the iron right and iron needles we use in liquid I guess you kind of float it so it yeah yeah well piece of wood Laurens north wire magnetized yeah it points towards
00:20:35| north so it helps with the looking at Polaris you don't really I don't know that would you rely on the needle or pliers I don't know if one told you the other way did you know Saylor started
00:20:46| believing that the needle was actually drawn to the star huh seems kind of cool I like that idea that is a pretty sweet idea cuz you'd be like this price all-powerful they also had
00:20:59| like uh I think like the Vikings like the mythology the Vikings kind of crazy and they had like certain tools as well they had a what was a stone that could refract and reflect light in such a way
00:21:15| that you could tell the prism yeah it's almost like a prism it was call it was a calcite primp they called a Sun stone Icelandic spar calcite Icelandic spar so it was like even if you didn't have the
00:21:28| Sun out but like you had a little like ambient lighting you could still see where the Sun was and then based on like the refractions you could tell like how far the Sun was from the horizon is like
00:21:39| at like a reverse prison it's like a double prism like you had a prison I like intensified the light and then also angled it in a certain way it's crazy yeah but these things don't exist I
00:21:51| don't know why they don't exist now I guess they're not as useful to us because we have technology that said right we have something it'll tell you it right away it's like the Sun was over
00:21:59| there instead of like holding a rock and polishing it and hoping they catch the light in the right way and you know the dust in the air you have to find two of the perfect rock and you know mm-hmm
00:22:09| yeah I don't know where we're going to go from here I thought the early cartographers got a few Biggie's hit him Colin Lee Fatone I can't say how I'm either taller on me
00:22:25| you just don't say the table isn't it's that people might think I don't know the P is there I know it's there Hippocrates he was around of Rome it's actually been recreated
00:22:40| like a thousand years later they redid it this is obsessed with knowing the boundaries and where things lie and recreating some of these maps so guys
00:22:50| like 10-15 years I love the like the way things are shaped on these maps like they're so egocentric like it doesn't make sense how like Rome is probably like massive it's like 90% on the map
00:23:02| and then like the like Asia is like a tiny little sliver and then like Europe is like a tile Britain is a little sliver and then Africa is just like Libya which did explore the most you
00:23:11| know even like he gonna if you know an area like the back your hand you know all the nooks and crannies if you go to a new place you're like look I was in a new place it's they're pretty big so the
00:23:21| the knob the key to making a map is knowing where you are so that's how being a navigator on the Seas plays right into it we didn't cover we covered latitude but we didn't run covered
00:23:32| longitude no need who cares its secondary how do you do that how did they know is it that's still North Star I know isn't it each wall so easier it's probably
00:23:47| literally angle of the North Star no angle in North Star is north-south so if you're doing longitude you know how far you are I guess yeah the other constellations
00:23:58| they're constantly spinning so the earth is kind of wobbling on its axis and also rotating around the side but they're but they're the same every year so every November you can see the Big Dipper in a
00:24:07| little bit so you have this look every I don't know that every day is the same from the previous year you're I thought every 12 months repeated because I thought in November you see the Big
00:24:22| Dipper right but you can double check me right now I thought every you know August you can see Orion and his belt and what's his name displaying the dragon or glass or I
00:24:36| don't know its name but yeah everything I don't know that it's in the same physical location was so like there's a wobble this kind of fits into pre-session
00:24:45| prefecture yeah yeah yeah but there's a guy there's a guy who's like did I think it was Milankovitch he did Studies on like the extinction of the world and all the but the the mass extinctions and he
00:25:01| found that like the combination of the earth wobbling and its location the Sun is like it's not like we are a perfect circle around the Sun we're like we're all blah and we're stretched so right
00:25:13| he found that like every hundreds of thousands of years we've we have all of these things more lines up with the in long lines up with the which way we're facing runs up with which way we're
00:25:27| angled maybe yes but I don't think you can guarantee that the stars positions are the same I thought it was slow enough that it didn't matter it takes like hundreds of thousand years
00:25:37| did you know due to precession which we keep touching on which is like if you spin a path and it's spinning which the top of it is slowly spinning not quite as fast as the top is spinning but it's
00:25:48| moving like this you know that motion like in Inception where he spins the thing and it's slowly doing this while it's spinning very quickly now called preception because of that the North
00:26:00| Star will actually not be in the North within the next like a hundred thousand years or stuff it's gonna wobble and flipped mm-hmm it'll be like North East or something screwed all those sailors
00:26:12| who are using GPS yeah so how do they do longitude I don't know waiting for you to tell me time what we should have covered this in the time episode but like Greenwich Mean Time is a Greenwich
00:26:27| is actually a location just outside of London so the sailors would leave from there and they all survived royal observer yeah Royal Observatory right there so they would use time to tell
00:26:39| where they were in relation of the Sun horizon if they knew what I thought it was they could tell where they work they don't they didn't have time does and then times ones back then but they
00:26:48| had a chronometer right it's like 1714 I think it was the first one I think they attribute that to like a guy named Kendall and then like 50 years later I think 1775 is when they
00:26:59| attribute Harrison to having one and they said that it was accurate to within eight seconds per day so you could be pretty close so where you were within probably minutes well it depends how
00:27:11| long your journey was so know what time it was for you you knew what time it was from the where you started yeah how do you know you were looking at so the sexton is the key is that you can tell
00:27:23| that the Sun is in a certain spot on the horizon the Delta versus where you thought it was that's how you determine where you are right but it's moving as you're moving true but the Sun is in the
00:27:38| same spot at every the same spot at that time in the day if it's directly but how do you know it's been two hours versus one hour if the Sun is directly above you right it's a quote-unquote noon and
00:27:54| you don't know that you're driving east or west or north or south you're not if your clock says that it's two o'clock that's romansky where's your clock where's your clock you just had break
00:28:04| Euler clocks they had a mechanical clock made by the car that's what the damn clock son knows like what yeah they had clocks it told them when you left from where you were it was the right time yep
00:28:19| wherever you end up if your clocks it's four o'clock and the Sun is at 6 o'clock location you're two hours east or west I don't know if they did that right but right something like that sure sure yeah
00:28:32| so that was the big thing like no one can keep a time well enough to tell where they were so the longitude it really messes with people like Columbus where they're trying to figure out where
00:28:41| they were and they are thought they thought the red Japan that way they thought they were Japan I think so that's my guess sure so why are you Tama sorry yeah some of the other
00:28:56| cartographers of the time they in this one yeah you're right aesthetics oh my god he was the first guy I see now the second one Ptolemy Solomon was the first
00:29:08| I'm gonna bring up some maps as you talk huh go for it dude actually don't I didn't write down when he did a map of but I bet it was like Rome plus like an island
00:29:19| I guess did you get a an exam and ER he didn't even cover that guy no no he didn't his map was ridiculous leave or take an exam and er what year cuz I think I skipped him oh I'm gonna say 600
00:29:42| BC no I think I didn't start that that early good what's his like um so what dragons and weird things and lion holding up land and stuff this is the ocean in a circle
00:29:55| okay he has Europe Asia Libya Mediterranean Sea and Black Sea and then like two rivers coming out of it no see I skipped over these cartographers because they
00:30:07| weren't as good margins on all encompassing is the ones I'm talking about now that one's more of a generic yeah you could have guessed I'm gonna bring this up don't forget to change
00:30:17| this here sure there you go yeah Europe Asia Olivia ocean ocean Giants are close with you ohto al-idrisi now um he was from 1154 so we're talking like nine hundred years later almost
00:30:38| they did it took him 15 years he did one of the better maps of Eurasia and North Africa that they use at the time it wasn't the most accomplished map never like wow it's incredible the first world
00:30:51| map I could find was from my manager artist Mercator [Music] how North America looks sexy right it's actually I don't know how to deal - I'm
00:31:08| gonna try rings up it's so here um google this so we can all look at this at one point yeah oh yeah I'll bring this one up there you go yeah through this how do you guys oh
00:31:23| yeah there's that so like let's because this is ridiculous this is 1569 okay Mercator yeah so like he he didn't haven't you can tell obviously where he didn't because we already know we know
00:31:35| we have more information than he did right it's like of course North America is all disordered up top he obviously went to the Gulf of Mexico he I guess he is these like dots that were like
00:31:46| accurate where he was it seems like he made my Canute's and then like South America looks just guess they made it a rest yeah like the inland areas where he
00:31:57| didn't sail he must not have tried well how do you have enough time to go never Inlet in the world no you're gonna killed by natives to someone did like China so here's this giant Antarctica he
00:32:13| doesn't know it take it it's like a land of Ice and Fire I don't know yeah of course and if you were like if you were oh what's the word commissioned by like a king - like plot
00:32:27| the earth what do you do you just like have like a deadly dragon he's not gonna double check you you know I mean Kings not going there to make sure every point was correct so there actually is a video
00:32:45| game that I play it on like Sega Genesis that the whole point of the game was for you to discover the earth and you were actually commissioned by a king to like find all the ports and yeah I don't
00:32:57| remember make sure it's a real game this is known as a real game you could it was amazing this - or something yeah kill all the natives no but you would like form this like fleet of ships you'd have
00:33:13| galleons and then like you'd like fight pirates and like fend your way through the world and then when you came back you're a baller like you're like even though Christopher Columbus is probably
00:33:22| a terrible person you come back and you're just like boom here's some special spices you know here's my map and pay me a boatload of money and I'm gonna go and sail the
00:33:31| world again cuz that's what that's what I do I'm an explorer I look a pretty repetitive game okay yeah you really enjoy your riches or you just going back out there to work again took me a long
00:33:41| time to find Rio de Janeiro but I did it mmm discovered it Carnivale baby so pull up this one for the audience because this is an interesting exercise MacArthur's universal corrective Matt
00:34:02| McArthur so on MC AR th so MacArthur I think his name was like Tom MacArthur I forget the first name he's an Australian scientist mattnic or whatever he was one Boston but I oh you'd been a key which
00:34:18| is January 26 ironically enough this is so cool right yeah it's a cool secret January 26 1979 he made a map the way it was meant to be I'm sorry Elliott to the north or the
00:34:31| south to the top yeah so if you look in I downloaded another map that was a little clearer as I make you feel dude if you stare at it long enough and all the names are right side
00:34:42| up like I'm looking at Alaska right now I'm like that's the weirdest thing I've ever seen and then you get over to Eurasia look come on Norway and Sweden and stuff that's not natural it looks
00:34:53| like we're in insula that's like inverted it's like a chubby leader like even Australia looks like a cat or something coming down to attack the rest of the land it doesn't it's a Cerberus
00:35:06| wiener yeah but even Africa that doesn't look it up Siam it's weird how we've been garner to look at maps a certain way South America I mean yeah South America
00:35:20| looks like I don't get it I'm like it's just upside-down corrected map of the world but he wanted to make it so that you know what if the staff was the top because we have a
00:35:30| North top right Prejudice yeah we do her that we certainly do yeah I actually know where it began us red red nan aljazeera piece by Nick Danforth I love the name of its article
00:35:46| it was a cartographic history of what's up I was like huh clever so Arabs and Chinese when they were making their maps and might be just see ii-era
00:36:00| just after BC yeah up was always self they think the Chinese made the match with South is up and that um Arab countries are just copying them it makes sense for a country that has to travel
00:36:13| south or one direction right like I mean the waters down there like that's yeah there we go they all travel this way that's the way you're traveling right but in their bias
00:36:23| they're thinking about it unlike an outward is upward right hmm if you're gonna get it's the same thing with like if you're on the ground and the horizon is south of you like below
00:36:36| you then the North is up it's a way like the things you can't you don't know or the sky early Egypt a lot of Dermot's South was up they think that because the Nile meant North I believe and they
00:36:50| figured wherever the water was going was down because of gravity that makes sense doesn't it that's that's a weird yeah that's a creepy ways when I crazy but think about it a just that it's like
00:37:02| don't know this it's just a theory but think about cuz water is traveling down to the lowest point well that musky babble what stores how homeworld Thor Thor his homeworld Asgard it's like that
00:37:16| waterfall at the end of Asgard just kind of like drops into nothingness floats yeah one of those people had that fear because they didn't have a map they didn't know that it was circular flat
00:37:26| earth or need some maps might get there in G to medieval Europe all that to you're up was to the east because they were constantly battling the people to the east right yes
00:37:43| military advantage yeah religious even you know implications but then around 15 modest becoming think Spain and Italy were some of the top map makers at the time s we're well aware um up was North
00:38:03| according to them and they were also sailing particularly all her maps are made by sailing so they were using the ocean and when you use the ocean as opposed to people on foot etc you're
00:38:15| probably using the North Star yeah well the world powers at that time or probably when Britain France Spain in Italy you manage and they were at the bottom like we just looked at that weird
00:38:26| man speaking wish did you switch you back to us yeah I did thank you excellent check yeah so my man's second century colony the Hellenic cartographer they tried to
00:38:40| recreate stuff in the 16th century a lot of these Spanish and Italian people Gerard is Mercator Marco sramana smart keen Waldseemuller Rojo which is a worsening I can find it I was like home
00:38:53| I got an idea there are so many names I was like no encourage to remember all these no no no and I wrote them down and I just wanted to mention them but um I look at their
00:39:02| maps trying to recur you stuff and this is a common thing with old maps and flat earth maps and maps from hundreds and hundred years ago they all have like angels or tariffs blowing wind and shit
00:39:15| all over it sirens like lingzi monsters like whoa I didn't know they're just the world and this is the coolest map I've ever seen but it doesn't make any sense it's like an old guy who has to blow
00:39:30| wind from the east he's a blown win 24/7 what does a guy have a life does he have a job you pay taxes there's just blowing wind anyway that's
00:39:43| as far as I got on maps actually I had some other stuff on the different kind of maps like did um so we don't ever tell people to check out other podcasts but if you did Vsauce Maps
00:39:54| episode does an episode on maps and now they're not accurate because the world is a 3d object right mm-hmm it's a globe it's a 3d thing any time you try an imprint a 3d image onto 2d you have
00:40:08| to distort one of two axes one of two no one up to pollicis area or on JDate yeah right so what we use if you look at Google Maps Google Maps uses a more Canadian production named after a man
00:40:29| Mercator so if you look at that map you go to Google you freaking like I love the maps on Google boom got some Mercator projection it's one kind of mat it's not every map if you go
00:40:40| on it keeps the shape so good good Sweden you're like I see those lines oh yeah you'll get Africa you're like that's the perfect line oh crap you like certain countries like they have the
00:40:49| good lines problem is they're not as big as you think they are because they distort air gap on his video which we wouldn't tell you to watch because you want to keep watching us he does a video
00:41:01| where it shows how Greenland is about the size of Africa on the Mercator projection right problem is if you put them together in real life you could put Greenland in there you put the United
00:41:13| States in there you put China in there you clearly try to bring up the the winkel Tripel projection well that's another interesting one so that one the National Geographic does not use the
00:41:24| Mercator projection they use the pencil house we call winkel Tripel let me get it projection and come with us a little funny it's like dinner it's like longer yeah it's a very obviously makes
00:41:38| Greenland very small compared to Africa Africa is wood Q day yeah if you think about it so in any of these maps you kind of have to either sacrifice area or shape they're really one of the really
00:41:52| accurate ones is called the gall Peters that in it if you look it up all the areas are actually almost perfect then it's GA ll - Peters not sure of its peak terms or Peter's clicked on it I got it
00:42:06| but if you look at it it's like it's thin as hell everything looks distorted yeah smash the flap or areas are more accurate so any 2d map you look at is actually
00:42:19| not accurate yeah you have to sacrifice one of two things shape or area it makes you you're up look extremely small and you wonder why like I mean you don't wonder why the people who are in power
00:42:30| will try to make their countries look larger so you want your country facing north and you want your country looking big right yeah yes that's a thing I guess there's like dozens of maps you
00:42:44| could use that very area and shape there's butterfly maps that flip open there's the mall we'd mall wide it looks nice and it's the one that you see that um is in a lot of science books it has
00:43:03| they break it apart by the oceans so there's like a hemisphere here hand hemisphere here cap hemisphere here type in um good Hamo lousine project i don't know i don't worry about I can't
00:43:15| yeah can do it if you've looked at a science book this is a map you probably say bring about a combination of like area and shape but like they break it into like eight hemispheres and they're
00:43:25| all half connected it's a weird look but you've seen it before you're like uh uh I used to see it I'm like you're about to wrap it on a globe and also yeah kind of lobe is not a perfect sphere so it's
00:43:36| a weird kind of stretched shape or along the equator so it makes it very odd which is I know this have you ever seen a map of the center's the other half of the world like you know how long America
00:43:50| and North America is to the west yeah and you're east you ever seen a map that does left us it has like this side mm-hmm it's weird looking to one of them and upside down you'll be like that's
00:44:00| not the world what kind of a lie buddy like what kind of feel like yeah weird like anxious feeling when you feel like the world isn't how you thought it it's strange it's like it's like I don't know
00:44:11| who I am when are you looking a map like that so - I don't even know what I'm doing here it's like it feels really strange to not know I don't know how the people who sent it back then like my
00:44:22| father is one of the best people in the world with directions with directions yeah I swear to God my dad because he was a delivery driver by expertise or whatever and drove all over
00:44:34| the city outside he would tell me all right if you want a go to pen restaurant you're gonna go up you know Easton Road you're in it 152 you're gonna make a left it's right by the ice cream shop
00:44:44| I'll say okay dad not really listen I'm just saying like yeah I hear that before fun which is you're gonna go down roads gonna split like 500 feet 500 yards someone between
00:44:55| there you figure it out when it splits you're gonna see a black band it's always Park bears I'm dead man might not be there he's like there's gonna be a black man there go left at the van okay
00:45:05| someone go okay I used to write down little mini notes which is crazy anyone who's under 30 has never written down notes for where to go yeah but this is for my father for
00:45:17| delivery so I was the cool I better get this right then he'd be like the road curved off to the left a little bit just see like a bridge usually there's an old guy smoking a
00:45:26| pipe okay dad that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard and he like it's just usually it's like going to a delivery one time and I'm following his directions and the black man was there
00:45:38| is a broken-down vehicle that's not too hard I get it was there there was a guy smoking a pipe I am not kidding one time in front of a 7-eleven or something like
00:45:49| that like a comedian sword I made the leftist spot and I was like hopefully crap and it went I made my delivery and to say I think my bed it's like he's incredible directions
00:46:00| and the fact that there's GPS now he's like trying to tell people directions or like he's like what you're what I'm gonna do is like six blocks usually the roads closed because of a car accident
00:46:10| like my dad's like prognosticating and they're like yeah we're something GPS it he's like I'm just telling you so there's I remember times when people like they come to my house and they
00:46:23| don't know how to get back to the highway and really I got to your house the wrong way once so the next time I went I took the same route because it look familiar to me uh-huh I got to your
00:46:34| house wrong three times once these are they kept going the wrong split it one of the no codes or something right past the buck hotel whoops no well revealing so that was my old
00:46:44| house my new house literally if you're on the highway you had you get another neighborhood you make a left you make another left you make a right and then
00:46:54| you go down to a certain street and I named it make a left and then another right so like people when you give them like five directions just like it's like a lot to people nowadays what tweeter
00:47:07| throw it back to like a videogame minimaps like Zelda or like an EverQuest type of thing anything where you're trying to navigate like back then if you're playing a video game and someone
00:47:20| said oh it's over that hill there's gonna be a guy dressed in red and he's gonna point you in the right direction from there or like uh-oh was perfect one like a like an oblivion test like style
00:47:31| game like oh that's a crazy game those have some right huh morrowind morrowind would just be like a bunch of jagged Hills people that can navigate that like in their brains it must have
00:47:42| fixated like how to navigate things that don't make sense or like there's a weird sort of understanding yeah nothing bang needle reception here talked about earlier but like no such thing but it is
00:47:57| exactly like there's there's people who are absolutely terrible with directions and it's surprising that they can't function a normal life when they have to deviate from what they know or what they
00:48:06| already do so here's the problem you don't have to do it anymore you don't you could do you live the same life you wanted over and over again there are people watching this video
00:48:17| they don't know how to get to work without GPS I guarantee it maybe not guarantee it no I find that really difficult to like me like to always have to use GPS but it's not a
00:48:34| big like to do it isn't a big deal it's easy I do it when I so this is another thing so you know I was bragging about being a delivery guy I happen to know my way around the city etc etc when like
00:48:47| the pest let's watch this bright way you can hear the last year or two of working as a delivery guy mmm-hmm don't do it anymore um GPS most of my stops
00:48:58| just to know that you have the shortest route fastest route yeah and sometimes I would find a couple blocks I'd be like oh cool I can cut this street that's awesome
00:49:07| how does GPS work it does work it's not I'm not knocking it I think there's on the order of like 24 satellites that are orbiting the Earth and there's multiple iterations of GPS
00:49:19| though there's there's 24 that I think they move about double the orbit of the earth we just 24 satellites are giving us all this information yeah so like GPS is a like a unidirectional thing they
00:49:34| are constantly spamming the earth with their where they are are their speed what they see what direction they're going that kind of a thing I think they just say which satellite
00:49:45| they are and what time they think it is so then the our computers do the rest yeah it's almost like a seismic data like when you have an earthquake you know how strong it was a certain
00:49:59| distance away so you can like map out from different locations how strong it was to reorient to the epicenter you want me to blow your brain
00:50:07| oh yes waves and P waves baby you know S waves true travel through liquid different speed than P waves travel through liquids like the deficit of the crust of the earth right you combine the
00:50:19| two and you figure out how much liquid its travel through how much solid its travel through and where their origin was it we still how deep or whatever you think it's drawing the two circles they
00:50:30| intersect and to spy they they could only could have been north or south you get a third one you know exactly where it is yes triangulation ironic cuz that's try oh is that why it's
00:50:41| triangulation because it's three things mmm that were using yeah the GPS satellites I think there's a minimum of six so you have full coverage of the entire earth with GPS so you can
00:50:55| pick up the signal from any one of those actually you need three of them right so maybe it's like a double factor of tation yeah they probably a combination yeah
00:51:03| multiple safety so yeah you can tell exactly where you are with those six satellites that will probably be accessible from your phone or whatever the device you have do you know how
00:51:15| fucked would be if GPS went down so like ships would have hard time navigating I guarantee like whatever you order from China might take a while to get here I don't know if people would know how to
00:51:28| they'd say on the right direction but they might be off a little bit I'm worried more about day-to-day things that use that technology like trucking complete yeah like anything how about
00:51:41| any more computer driven vehicles or missiles yeah it doesn't have GPS I don't know that the missiles be able to track where they needed to go you just be spraying and praying this military
00:51:58| thing I've heard you say military for like a stint uh I kind of wish I was I'd be a veteran but I was never in the military you lightly just wanted for the discounts I did work on our dealerships
00:52:09| I worked on the et Cie Hawkeye radar which is like that plane with the giant black dome on top with only like two of those or maybe three you could cover like the entire United States radar for
00:52:22| Air Force stuff and then in conjunction everyone else with that site worked on the anti-missile missiles the Patriot I added anti-ballistic missiles or whatever the call of it not the missiles
00:52:36| out that are incoming yeah interesting so GPS is essential for telling a missile where it is and where to go now on Google News tracks us every day gives me some really good suggestions for what
00:52:49| to read on and some really clickbait be awful terrible articles oh yeah lately I've been getting ones for the earth is ready to reverse its magnetic field yeah
00:53:00| that's not true but I didn't think it was at all I mean I think it's more of a level it happens every so in those thousand years we maybe were new question mark one of those articles flat
00:53:11| earther article not quite close to it so the earth does reverse its magnetic poles right yeah I think that was part of them Milankovitch cycles okay now are we do in a general sense in that
00:53:28| we're doing for as you know supervolcano or I don't know I guess you wouldn't know it's not really cyclic it's more random hmm you want us to ponder for a moment I do it's like I did with that
00:53:45| everything for like GPS signals now for compasses maybe you're just points out oh yeah we're due for something okay some kind of natural disaster I want everyone to
00:54:09| tune in what happens hmm would we be good at consoling the populace or like funding the flames of chaos well I guess the only could be anywhere in our homes in your dishwasher dishwasher was that
00:54:34| bur box no what was it four blocks away mmm-hmm the breadbox bird something by bolt right yeah if you had invisible monsters that were attacking you and you had somebody that was like trying to
00:54:47| tell you like how to defeat them and he was making jokes crank and see if Emma does know that's I'm just saying if we were trying to tell people how to save their lives and everyone's like by the
00:55:06| way we don't know for sure but what if the keys water I forgot that's the reason I brought it like that who's the best mat guy I know he's at this direction guy I know he knows how to get
00:55:19| everywhere in everybody area he knows every highway every shortcut he always says one thing to me cuz I'm a big science fan he isn't and it applies to this directly he says how do you know
00:55:32| that they made a map tracked the outline of the city in the word means the word and the peninsula comes out this far he's always like how do you know that's exactly it and like I know dad they got
00:55:46| paid to do it he's like how do you know that I'm always like dad it's in a book it's real and to this day him asking that makes me think
00:55:57| I mean cuckoo be off by a few meters on a few coastlines good there's two names they're two things you triggered there it's like it's all upsetting if yeah it's you don't you only know what's
00:56:13| around you what you can visually perceive so if I'm looking I'm solipsistic and fully believe it I can only believe in the things that are in this room because that's what I see so
00:56:23| like the people you'll see you can touch the people back then it didn't have a map they were probably more heavily sob Cystic because they were like I can believe in what this is not like
00:56:32| technology and science so happy laughs we're bullshit yeah we think I mean I'll see dragon comes for you if you cross the doors I say Hansel our maps aren't bullshit or half of the stuff we have is
00:56:44| in bullshit I'm not saying it is I'm saying it happened that was bullshit for them wouldn't it apply that half could be bullshit for us at the information we get has cancer this causes a problem
00:56:56| this is healthy this isn't there's so many overlays of all the pictures of the earth that you have to figure that they have it down pretty well Brian are we getting into the blue marble picture
00:57:06| yeah though so you leaned on this before were up is north or not the blue marble picture is actually which is the one everyone loves it's the most famous picture taken in 1974 by Apollo
00:57:18| something follow something I'm gonna look anyway it's actually flipped the picture is where South is north and North is up or North is down south is up and NASA on sending it back etc etc
00:57:34| hollow eight 1988 wait let me mention for 45,000 km that's kilometres for your folks anyway the picture is upside down it was actually taken upside down so
00:57:52| we flipped it to make it look like the North was up and then also like cloud cover to like figure out what the continents look like you have to take multiple pictures and then overlay them
00:58:02| if they overlay a lot yeah and then so I worked with some people that also did like like lunar samples when you have a rock so there's like a geographic informational system - so like in order
00:58:15| to reconstruct 3d things like there's a way that you like arc GIS is what it's called is how you reconstruct 3d objects people would do that on lunar samples to reconstruct the lunar rocks and see how
00:58:27| they fit together why porousness matters apparently I don't I'm not a rock guy I'm rocking hard but I'm not a lot guy every time we talk about the planets you are oh yeah
00:58:39| this kind of ties it all back together maps are us trying to figure out in the world what we're looking at where we live what's going on around us it's visual it's about ready cut and dry we
00:58:52| like lines I mean it's a solid line the coastline isn't a solid line ever right yep like the separation between like States they give like what Utah Colorado and like Nevada they just arbitrarily
00:59:07| like there's a line there that's separation but that doesn't happen ever in nature nature is that bizarre that we are the only people are like I would like things in cubes to bring him back
00:59:19| to that seemed very good that seems very us like minecraft no I'm going with money I'm gonna packs up to a certain point no you know an up to a certain plan I would so like the original thing
00:59:34| I was gonna talk about when we first started this is like getting lost and now there are very few video games that you can actually like wander out and be lost forever that's a good point
00:59:43| minecraft is one of the few where you can wander out into the wilderness and then be like how do I get home you may go home yeah you start making home right there thing that's cool
00:59:53| oddly enough Nick and I both played Minecraft together and we essentially made a North Star out of lava we had a tower of lava that led us back to our original home
01:00:05| yeah spiral spiral lava yeah we we all encased in glass to protect it yeah I think they make it look cooler that's better cuz I never said that but is that like
01:00:21| providing a beacon a lighthouse that's essentially cartography right I mean you're providing a sense of where you are well you you want to know where you are if you want to know where your
01:00:35| boundaries are you want to know how to get to here how to get back how far it is from here and back in a way you want to know the logistics we're now heading there and banking ready to get food yeah
01:00:47| easy for me to get this yeah I'm out here can I get this every this happens in delivery driving if you're doing a delivery to Northeast Philly and someone tells you they have a South Philly
01:00:58| delivery you don't do it on the same run yeah if someone says they had Fox Chase and Northeast Philly you're like yeah right there perfect but there's weird things that you want
01:01:10| to know logistics you wanna know logically where everything's connected where all the edges are where the boundaries are what's close to what what do we need to get to what and where I
01:01:20| find ironic is that according to maps according to different maps we're not always right there's no one map there's no one picture of the world there's no one way to live your life path you
01:01:34| choose ways to get to someplace and it's all different spirals out of control spiral out spiral out yeah it's like read and write no yeah black and white hello I see I forgot now lateralis but I
01:01:56| never Alice spiral out folks I don't I don't know but we should anyway check your Maps folks thanks for tuning in if you want to donate to our map patreon please if you want to see secret
01:02:11| episodes we've been hiding from you please donate please read the book longitude by that guy that I never read call the latitude check it out
01:02:21| well it's the longitude are you sure yeah would recover navigation star sex guy we come all Minecraft our fire Rob Lowe Chinese Southern Cross and lares so Northstar Europe the rotation
01:02:35| of the earth non-stop of the mauville in to reblog al-idrisi was the man key Harrisons chronometer chronometer yeah 2d versus a low altitude we didn't touch on long
01:02:49| after Jordan also somehow sang stones this is GPS satellite images shape roadmaps Google Google Earth landmarks my guy all those explorers and photographers did you know um the
01:03:03| electromagnetic frequency if it was spread from New York LA right that's a visual frequency like that's just electromagnetic frequency boom boom like Fruities camera range radio a it's every
01:03:16| kind of wait the visual weights the ones that you can see with with your eyes are only small front 180 meters I don't know if that means that 100 nanometers like I think initially Alice knew miles or 3000
01:03:32| kilometres from New York to LA does anyone know it's like a few thousand miles okay so if that were the entire length of electromagnetic frequencies that are possible and they only see the
01:03:43| nanometers we only see 100 nanometers like point zero zero percent something and at point zero zero zero one meters I like how you use miles and then conversion meters I thank you listen
01:04:00| because the only way I know is how many kilometers it is from that later yeah oh yeah you're measuring United States skating ah Oh point zero zero three five percent
01:04:23| that's what oh that's not terrible yeah except that that's all we can see you ways to see things yeah check our radiation episode that's exciting us that was number one it's done up
01:04:40| thanks for bringing the heat folks thanks for listening if you went to any money for me to fix my hair please do if you want to donate money to fix Nick fix him permanently so you can have babies
01:04:54| well also accept that money I get them fixed oh good night guys thanks for joining us we like you we like you
UnP Website
|
PredPod Website
|
UnP Episodes
|
PredPod Episodes
|
Subscribe via Email
|
Subscribe via Android
|
Subscribe to RSS Feed
TikTok | Twitch | Twitter | Tumblr | Reddit | YouTube | RadioPublic | Blubrry | PlayerFM | Stitcher | TuneIn | Apple Podcasts
Subscribe to RSS FeedTikTok | Twitch | Twitter | Tumblr | Reddit | YouTube | RadioPublic | Blubrry | PlayerFM | Stitcher | TuneIn | Apple Podcasts
No comments:
Post a Comment