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00:00:12| noise sound the vibration of air molecules it's all around us it's everywhere it's everyday folks sometimes that stuff gets together formed music sometimes it's pretty important in our
00:00:25| lives today we're going to talk about the connections between music and memory join us so I'm Dan and I'm Nick books for old friends dissecting one topic at a time
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00:01:12| time open up your earholes [Music] alright those are sweet beat now available at the Virgin Megastore compusa tower records circuitcity me to
00:01:39| play Sam Goody or Suncoast any of those stores that wish they still existed well what about coconuts is coconuts that exists a national store did you say the wall as well the wall yeah I'm
00:01:58| guaranteed on those bad boys yeah we got licks coming from everywhere this is a lick up so we're just going to sit here and chill with y'all we're just gonna play music we're having a talk you guys
00:02:11| want to turn off your mics we're gonna get French to death don't let your parents know close the bedroom door and let's get in a jam with my ice cubes because it's a Lea Tork random noises
00:02:27| that make sound into music it's interesting when not when you pour a drink you know you're pouring a drink because it's a nice mixture sounds same thing when you're playing a bass it's a
00:02:46| mixture of sounding it sure is what is sound that would eat you friggin ooze yeah it's not scientifically proven [Laughter] literally just vibrations right yeah
00:03:00| just a chance oh good on my abbreviations it's all I know yeah ruined by the movement would not be this great movie um I wanted to read a few quotes about music everyone has a
00:03:17| most women or teenage girls who have a blog will put this women when I went to school and had this in their aim BIOS I what that was called your body yeah thanks ah yeah profile whatever it was
00:03:30| called here's a good one music is the only proof I need for the existence of God that could be anyone teenage girl up it's Kurt Vonnegut Kurt Vonnegut is yeah he's like a famous author I was like
00:03:42| that's where here's another one without music life would be a mistake sounds like ah what Britney Spears like who's that one Nietzsche anyway so then I went on music
00:03:56| gives a soul to the universe wings to the mind flight to the imagination and life to everything that's beautiful it's some kind of a current day a pure art Pharrell Pharrell Williams
00:04:09| no it's play-doh play-doh actually said that well these guys are stoned that's what I can tell you last one I got here is music produces a kind of pleasure plays your which human nature cannot do
00:04:21| without I was like damn is that Nirvana club nope Confucius dammit fantastic cousin who doesn't have a good music quote then I've heard to me this is like the person who puts in their tinder bio
00:04:34| I like music yeah dude we all do good job buddy don't that's a thing we all like music right yeah I think that happens for a very young age even as a baby they say you can react to different
00:04:48| types of noises you have an a distressful reaction to certain noises they call it so there's cacophony which is a like a cacophony of annoying things it's a
00:05:01| mixture of noises that you don't like there's the opposite which might be your bass playing I'm not sure they call it euphony like euphoric you Ford audio so here two two excerpts so this the first
00:05:18| one's supposed to be something you like so that's the you ffunny you're gonna play along as I go just a touch it's hard to put it down when you start like at you I know there's a when you play it
00:05:34| you feel like there's a maybe you're like it's a mantra well yeah you're like meditating a little bit I am glad that I played instruments when I grew up because it
00:05:44| was a different type of meditation than anything you could do it definitely resonates just like this next passage will as soon as you put the damn bass down
00:05:56| alright folks put the downright expensive piece of wood lot of mahogany a lot of did you get to the oil bet every day with your own handles ha ma extra grease like overhead
00:06:13| whole week since I played it so it's kind of feels weird he's getting if you've had friends who are musicians they do this constantly they'll just pick up their instrument
00:06:24| and start jamming and then they can completely ignore you it's something that just he's trying to he's trying to hold on that was a perfect release you almost always hear interference when you
00:06:41| do that folks the worst is drummers ok because the drummer can only play loudly and they can only fill a room with sound and they can only and then they find a sick beef
00:06:56| that they love and they're like the only way I think a drummer can commit something to memory as a muscle memory thing they actually have to physically play through a meter like 10 times or 20
00:07:06| times to commit it to a physical memory because it's not as mental coming it's almost more physical so it's not their fault that you're a loser ok so human speech has this this nice
00:07:20| rhythm to it or not and these are two excerpts from poets this first one is supposed to be Pleasant rhythmical and harmonious it's an example of euphony so some day love shall claim it's his own
00:07:32| someday right ascend his throne someday hidden truth be known someday some sweet day Milani mom come on can you tell me the first 10 words of that I'll show you a trick some day love
00:07:47| shall claim his own someday right back as long as thrown some weight some day love show plain you're supposed to glow with paper bc holding his ladder to his face holding a paper in my face
00:07:57| there's a way you could do this someday love shall throw away the keys to my love and my throne and overtop it without Nair a problem the world in itself find there's a way we used to
00:08:11| do a thing called stress and anti stress and most human speech in English at least the most ear pleasing ways to do a stressed word an unstressed word of stress words like I am back pentameter
00:08:23| yeah yeah a little bit yeah I mean but in the actual speech with just the words we yeah no natural speech does that like up and down kind of rhythm so people can follow along to
00:08:32| what you're saying mm-hmm so this is a cacophony which is harsh often dissonant sounds things that are fun so babies react to these words negatively even before they know what
00:08:44| words are my stick fingers click with a snicker and chuckling they knuckle the keys light-footed my steel feelers fickle and pluck from these keys melodies it does sound kind of yeah yeah
00:08:59| it's like it's hard to swallow I didn't like it I wouldn't swallow those sticky fingers hello this knuckle a keys not man not not a fan Danny huh so the new fliers mascot just fell have you seen
00:09:13| them idea I don't understand why they need a scout that's as gritty but I don't know sorry I'm just retweeting his fault or there's a lot of people need to see it
00:09:27| okay retweet check we just lost your viewer I think this is much of a retweet show mm-hmm so talk about did you find the definition of músicos I'm doing oh
00:09:41| definitely oh wait now I did good sound in university you know what sound has what loudness to it decibels and then has a frequency to it yeah I have um music kind of touches on that dynamics
00:09:56| yeah it's interesting because there are different definitions for the scientific version of sound transmittal and what a human hears it's like frequency has an analogue that if a human hears it it's
00:10:07| the pitch because pitch is different for people what we own yeah life's like yeah it's a turtle eyes than its unique so like perfect telling varies from working program it
00:10:19| okay what of that well let's get into music then because we're gonna touch on this amusing so let's just do this it makes music week it does actually just agree with you yeah well there's a
00:10:31| reason why I'll say music is drumroll folks bass play folks guitar strum folks it is an art form and cultural activity whose medium is sound organized over time this reminds me of George Michael
00:10:49| from - modern yeah a restaurant yeah I guess I owe Modern Family that's a show okay at least I was thinking of a family comedy show no Arrested Development George Michael he wants to join the band
00:11:02| but he had no musical practice and he has a wood block and a block and he says please let me join the band uncle so-and-so uncle Tobias and Lindsay and they go no you can't be and he's like oh
00:11:15| I can play drums like you can play music and he's like no but I'm always on time and that's like the exact same thing punctual is on time drummers have to have time anyway music is an art form
00:11:40| it's a culture activities medium is sound organized over time sure yeah there are four three four or five depending on whose definition you look up really important parts of music
00:11:50| broken into pitch which we just touched it's the melody or harmony da da da dun dun like the notes you know the way the notes it's literally the notes okay cool and the way something sounds next up is
00:12:05| rhythm or tempo articulation I can't talk to do drums at the same time okay isn't that dynamics it's tough dynamics which is loudness saw
00:12:24| and swelling of action decibels and all that stuff we're just like amber lastly was timber ah it's um texture color it's the it varies from instrument to instrument person to
00:12:39| person like you can play the same note on a $1200 bass guitar that you can play on like a yeah slight variations on how that the frequencies go mad on that it's it makes it sound to you
00:12:52| it does a flute note of the same note from this base will sound entirely different as well as that same note out of someone's mouth right yeah depends on what you're amplifying it with her
00:13:03| trying to make music with and then also what isn't music if someone's making the sound I know what I'm gonna use your own little well what was it something slower than that it doesn't
00:13:20| count as music because you're no longer Luuk hmm you want to expound I do um what else say is most music you come across today most music you hear on the radio most music your friends listen to
00:13:33| your parents listen to everyone and the world listens to you can find variants please do not go in the comment section say I know a song that's in 60 to 160 beats per minute he has a kind of a
00:13:44| standard pop song rock song most soul most blue who's most eighty songs was most every goddamn song II think up most there are variants what's ironic is that's also like common heart rates
00:14:00| I mean resting your national rhythm your ability is sense yeah cuz you sense in that time I mean when you're exercising you're in the 160s 180s you can get up to 200 or younger 160 if you're older
00:14:14| usually how codes I can't remember 160 like that I don't I missed it I think as you get older your max heart rate goes down right really is that I thought your so when you exercise like a kids max
00:14:29| heart rate is like close to 190 or something but like if you're 70 you better be like under 150 when you're exercise I yeah so like resting heartbeat gets
00:14:38| restricted by a rifra sclerosis I think thanks for the hardening hardening of the arteries that here it is it's a hardening heart ring of the our Denise our arteries so I already mean I guess
00:14:52| you can't yeah you can't I I guess your resting heart be goes down because you physically can't endure that much stress on your heart when you're older but does
00:15:01| that mean you you can't enjoy music I mean you can't hear me I mean well I wasn't saying that I was literally just talking about the human range of heartbeats Wow and how is it a
00:15:11| coincidence it coincides with our music I mean probably not although ironically that you bring it up old people do like slower music right nostril though the hip-hop and the loud metal music cuz
00:15:23| it's too fast well most people like to dance to music so if you're going too fast for an older person and you can't answer that music so it makes it less that's true in immerses oh yeah I would
00:15:36| say but um so what you were getting at earlier is sixties kind of the lower range of most songs you can find songs at forty forty five they surmise that as low as thirty three beats per minute by
00:15:47| oral psychologists is um the general cutoff for a slow something a bit because once you get outside of that you leave your subjective rhythm ization rhythm ization because usually you're
00:16:02| present for like three to eight seconds you're in a perceptual present and you need to hear a couple beats against each other because you when you um hear being internalized it
00:16:13| they say you you break it down the strong and weak beats so like boom boom boom I'm nodding my head it's a strong beat you feel what I'm saying yeah even if you because you differentiate the two
00:16:25| beats or the three beats or the four beats or whatever but usually one is a strong beat the others are weaker so you need to have at least two in your reference frame and if you span it out
00:16:35| too long they say that essentially you're trying to remember the old beat you're like yeah it was there no I'm here and it's a thing called being in the presence of
00:16:46| perceptual so that's like short-term memories like what half a sigh and long so if you guys think for seconds isn't two to four seconds it's longer than that something I got yeah so
00:16:56| it didn't yeah it's in this range so like you're yeah otherwise it's shifting into the different area memory and you're not pulling that from your your present memory
00:17:04| it's a stored because that definitely at that point you're looking you're on a beat and you're staring at a past beat that's in the distant past that you have to remember and you're thinking of a
00:17:13| future beat that's in the distant future usually when you listen to music you're just feeling all the beats because they're all in the present that's why they like all these things to kind of be
00:17:21| in your present that's why hence these numbers so would you say if you're dancing to a song and you're moving in such a way that you could capture the beat with your body do
00:17:30| you think you could make a song slower and have it still work maybe said I'm the only way to do it in drummers can do this I am you you break down 80 beats per minute and you internalize it like
00:17:43| this you're constantly counting faster then no no yes yes exactly and then you hit on the snare on the every fourth well what you can do then is that on every
00:17:54| fourth you don't hit and you wait till every sixteenth and then you'd be playing at 20 beats per minute so you pretend hit and not do it pretend it not do it pretend to do it that's a lot of
00:18:06| not doing Shh pendant not do it tended not do it pretend to do it really do it and as I'm hitting the really do it I'm actually hitting 20 beats per minute but honestly
00:18:21| I'm just I'm counting at 80 beats per minute is the idea yeah that was actually a great example when he was like I got completely distracted when you're doing it I was like looking left
00:18:31| and right I don't know what was less huh and I'm not a music theory guy I dabble in and one of my friends is a music guy but that was maybe not 80 beats per minute so nobody come at me in the
00:18:42| comments section tell me I was way off but that's the idea behind it hmm music origins can we go there sure okay we can't pull that up right which is fun
00:18:58| I apologize I mean I it's funny I think you might recreate I don't know so lies recreated copyrights about bean with ears I thought it was early 1800 oh no no it's
00:19:12| a shit where'd it go I lost it nevermind you got it you got the stat that's fine no I actually Oh so I thought it was 1800 BC but I might have been wrong in 1500 BC okay yeah
00:19:25| fourteen earliest song ever recorded on to cuneiform in cuneiform there you go yes so they are dug these up in the it actually even had a name there were like nine clay tablets that had music
00:19:40| they must have recorded like nine or ten songs all the clay tablets were like pretty much wrecked and destroyed except one it was hewn our Ian Curie in him number six what's kind of interesting is
00:19:54| it was Anatolian in origin they were shipped over to Syria and they came over and they brought their music with them and uh they wrote down a cuneiform which is cool is the only reason they knew how
00:20:05| to read redo the song is it included like guitar strings individual leader strings and stuff in their instructions so they were writing it to hell down so it's not like it was a coincidence like
00:20:18| a and then this next movements and B next movements and C next move it's an a don't whatever make that song but anyway so it's like wild but they wrote it down specifically now no one knows the rests
00:20:33| and all that stuff involved so it's up to interpretation and we can't redo the instruments exactly but whoever did this and professor Richard Dunn bro I was like that's right right yeah that's me
00:20:47| they tried to retreat they try to recreate it and it was a wild like it's weird because it sounds so generic that we've heard this before it sounds like ancient music right so
00:20:59| what it is new part of it is that like the copyrights on music like we hear a lot of Mozart and things that were made like hundred years ago because I think the copyright is either 75 years or like
00:21:14| anything that is older than what have it be subject to royalties and stuff right so although let's go say something about oh it even has the sheet music for it if we want to check it out
00:21:35| and play it ourselves everybody hook it up hey I give you information just look it up guys but this is a like a one instrument type of deal right or is it multiple no it's a
00:21:44| gummy this is definitely stringed instrument know what it is it might be a Lear it some kind I hear that there's like strumming going on and then I'll skip forward to the end here because
00:21:55| it's five and a half minutes long which where do you think they played it like it's not a concert do you think I was just like a party and they would have like the rich people would have a party
00:22:04| and like look we have something called music it check out this music I have now yeah yeah the one who try saw was like these three Egyptian women playing different instruments so I assumed that
00:22:18| there was like client meant and men actually played it let's not get crazy although who knows power back then right no but you get back I'm just saying that stone tablet looked kind of hot
00:22:32| interesting so two things that you might find interesting this is we're just talking about slow music they're actually working on the slowest piece of music ever played it's
00:22:43| actually still in process right now it's John Cage's he not the Mortal Kombat guy I know we all wish it was it's called organ to ASL SP it's his piece that um he wrote rewrote we worked
00:22:59| reworked and they slow it down so they've actually slowed it down and they started this in 2001 he died but he kept slowing down his music more and more to like take up like hours at a time 39
00:23:12| hours for a performance and he told everyone just play slower while you were doing the whole thing so it'll be like they've done something as soon as he died the day he died or an anniversary
00:23:27| anniversary they did the long plan um in 2001 they did the rest it was a measure of rest like right before you play ever Lenin Rises you get ready to play mm-hmm well that rest lasted two
00:23:40| years and they it's a special organ in I want to say London but I could be wrong they hold down one note in 2003 I don't know what note it is February 5th 2003 that's when the first note started and
00:23:54| that note will be held down for two more years continuously you note will play yes Wow awesome and then a new note will play two years later and they have it all dated out the
00:24:04| piece will end may 9 2013 7 up now we're on all these note changes there's only like I want to say a couple 100 or 100 whatever it is they're all planned out and you know when they're gonna happen
00:24:19| more and more people start going to this event they all for the note change yes for the note team sounds like the wildest thing I ever heard and who knows if they'll finish it I mean if if that
00:24:33| building collapsed what would they do it's over right don't know maybe they'll rebuild it in time to change the note yeah but it's still they would have lost the note yeah yeah so would they have to
00:24:46| transport it somewhere like 18 men get in there it's the buildings on fire coxswain or whatever he's a little tiny fact that he's holding it for like a day just falling asleep someone's hitting
00:24:58| them constantly anyway it's a real thing it's probably worth checking out if you're into really slow music another cool you would like more is Jenn finer from London she's doing what's called
00:25:19| long play long player it's a 20 minute long piece on piano that she wrote it's real song actually I don't know if she wrote it or he gem finer sound like a one diminish could be meant I'm not
00:25:34| you're talking please do a long player anyway um they made an algorithm that'll keep spitting out a new version of the song and you can
00:25:45| continuously play it it will be continuously played from now for a thousand years without repeating it hasn't been done but it's in the process and it's not slow notes it's actually
00:25:56| playing music continuously we got long-player there are online check it open yeah it sounds really boring also though yeah none of these refer to him or her okay whatever Jim kleiner is
00:26:10| behind it Jim good job done yeah that's that's music I think we covered it entirely we talked about everything that's doing music we're done I can suddenly yeah I'm good Jeremy mash Jem
00:26:27| finer it subdued oh ok was one of the founding members of the pogues the pogs box folks I just wanted to correct you I have no idea Celtic punk band okay alright whatever
00:26:42| Jim so um I read an article and all that is interesting 2017 sounds like a kind of a BuzzFeed type website guy all over the place so I don't know 100 sensitive elyda tea but actually sounded like they
00:26:55| did their research pretty good 5 facts about music which are kind of cool kind of we don't know they had scientific explanations I might have you stop reading and reading this goosebumps you
00:27:10| know you get goosebumps when you listen to certain someone huh yeah a certain you got a pitch it's not a pitch because you could recreate that pitch it wouldn't happen outside of that song
00:27:18| outside the song that's a it depends on the previous notes that are played yeah so what it is it's um it's it's called free song I don't know if that's a german term or something sounds like
00:27:29| it's me it has to do with the connective fibers that are on between your auditory contact cortex and your anterior insular cortex apparently the stronger the connection
00:27:40| between those two they think it has to do with predicting what's coming next not really knowing pretending to be surprised but an elated surprise you're like oh oh it's beautiful it's you know
00:27:51| so that's why it usually happens it like the climax of a song or something you're like even though you really heard that song before you can predict it but your brain
00:28:01| tricks itself sometimes we listen to goosebumps hi that's what they think again this is from always interesting I could be tirely off but it makes sense and it did
00:28:11| mention the auditory cortex anterior insular cortex connection which I believe yeah it's all on a scientific sounding words the aesthetic chill is the free song RI sson yes correct
00:28:26| hmm what nationality is it is a journey was I correct a French term actually damn the fridge it is interesting to watch like a like an x-factor or whatever American Idol and certain ones
00:28:41| actually cause goose bumps between like I'm not amongst all of the different judges so there's a definitive goose-bumpy song so part of that though is on built into the human vanity of the
00:28:55| situation you hear their story rags to riches stuff cares it was a paper boy do care a little bit back Australian who only had a piano what about like a homeless person who lost his family and
00:29:07| he's singing it's like a super opera song and he looks like trash but then he's like oh you probably saw their side it's amazing that a sound can cause such an emotional reaction that's what music
00:29:22| is isn't it even sound like Italian opera like you're singing words that you don't even know like any different record emption oh you're right yeah those alien ladies was saying about
00:29:32| things we don't even know I forgot I was going to butcher it even worse if I can I can't remember now that you butchered it so bad I'd like to think they were talking about freedom something beyond
00:29:42| these walls yeah there you go but maybe they were talking about sex in the showers I don't know a soap-on-a-rope anyway nope moving on to number two fact about music as an exploration earworms
00:29:59| there's some reason we get catchy songs cotton that's called an ear one and their hilts hair worm okay yes there's a reason we get catchy tunes caught in our head where were they going
00:30:11| without ever knowing the way you get that baby shark anyway there's a reason it's because um even if you don't want that song in there there's a pleasure gratification reward system in your
00:30:34| brain that's present if you play minigames like clash of clans where you know you click a few things and you get a stupid reward but you love to do it anyway
00:30:43| even if it's a boring trite predictable thing you keep ding ding so what it is is they they surmise that word they surmise that these songs are usually simpler easier song there's nothing like
00:30:55| a really complex don't get a no dude you don't get an opera but in your head I play it over and over again so it's usually a simple song and your brain is me I'm predicting it
00:31:10| my brain is predicting it I got it yeah I got it right yeah like a rising pitch to it's like something that gets a little bit louder a little bit more fun exciting rewarding yeah liked it so
00:31:23| that's number two you know worms number three is the exact opposite why is a song at all or like old or like beat after a summer if it's like the song of the summer you listen
00:31:34| to it like three months later hey don't lie I was trying to think if I could listen to that right now probably not I'd be like in it mmm it's copyrighted so we can we can't you're
00:31:47| absolutely correct I hope she doesn't see this and go wow we talked about it too much give us some rights we'll do it it's similar idea over familiarity to a
00:31:57| simple song will result in it's losing its luster because it's so pricked about you stop rewarding yourself for it it's like yeah we yeah yeah you know it's no longer all coming back to me now I don't
00:32:11| know that one might be there some of it coming back to mm-hmm I think there are moments of light right there flashes of light and moments of pure time or not I guess I
00:32:25| was gonna say you're way further than me not like yeah things we'd never do again but then they know it seemed right hmm you're gonna love this next back okay hit it
00:32:38| what shapes our music tastes mm music they give us value so they um scientists did a study on this they asked all these people to rank these two piano pieces one was like I almost do it or they told
00:32:59| the slam the keyboard one was like a master pianist when the person listened to the two they told them sometimes the truth sometimes the opposite sometimes the truth sometimes the opposite almost
00:33:10| always regardless of whether it was a homeless guy slamming piano with his elbow and his Peter they always chose the master penis sound better they were like oh we love that one Alton sounds so
00:33:19| much better even when they were wrong the reason I just think that is we have a perceived value on a thing now when you fast forward to when we grow up and stuff a perceived value is like our
00:33:31| friend it's like it people our age group like it this is like good like this is a small game the Somali a is a person who knows really like about wine wine yeah yeah sure comes up to you so this is a
00:33:42| finest one we've ever served here it costs X amount of dollars that you can't afford but you're gonna drink it anyway and you're going to love it and they love it because they spent so much money
00:33:49| on it and then you get those guys in the back room with a wine test that has a thousand-dollar bottle wine a $10 bottle of wine and they can't tell what it is made of terms for people that are to
00:34:03| fancies or know what's good and what's not well you'll love that it was value based so we love value here and uh yeah music so I guess I mean don't know who so well
00:34:14| that's the first thing that you try to figure out about a piece of music right is that who is playing this you try to clear and I'm going more with the other way who else likes this do my parents
00:34:24| yes my friends like that's a value - I would love to never show yeah you know kind of I mean not maybe not intentionally like haha only fellow teens like this I will like this but in
00:34:37| the back your mind it might help influence something you know and then you listen to something enough times ten times 20 times and now you kind of like it because you can predict it
00:34:45| you can probably like most music if you get into it we're like I can't get into grindcore I'm not a big early hip-hop guy I got to do stuff now but like if you get into the scene you probably
00:34:58| enjoy most music imagine so there's that stat about older people that well they get like ALS really gets some sort of like brain damaging disease and then they can't do very much of anything they
00:35:09| can't recall anybody they can't form new memories they don't really make friends and the last thing that generally goes is music so if you play a song they can remember memories moments I'm just doing
00:35:27| like a really old time use on the phonograph like and you'd have to put the record on and it would spin and she'd be like remember me from the movie called Coco I think if she wasn't good
00:35:47| that that was better it was actually really good one well thank you you have a budget I think he did actually they make all the good character set buttons I don't know who noticed that me yeah I
00:35:58| think I'm doing it wrong but they haven't seen it okay let's see that again but yeah they they did that against older people who didn't have any memory of anything else and they could
00:36:07| recall things based on music because music starts hitting the different areas of your brain I think it was called what Broca's Ranas area that's an area that's connected to speech as well as broke no
00:36:20| it's broke up it's broken I call program wait I could be wrong you were right there's a no in there Broc a hmm but anyway um there's also an interesting point you touched on I wasn't gonna go
00:36:33| here yet but no let's talk about how music helps how can someone sing a song and not stutter but not be able to talk you're not Sutter I was like king speech like that he doesn't know how to say it
00:36:46| the words individually but when he sings them out loud he can flow through the speech it doesn't make any sense you're saying more you're making more sound to sing than to talk
00:36:56| you're literally adding things to talking and you can do it I guess you're requiring requiring yourself to match a tempo to hit something with a fluid flow so you're
00:37:07| making more rules you have to live up to more rules is that what you're telling me maybe it's taking him that idea it's taking up that stream of consciousness that is disrupting what you're trying to
00:37:18| think of that could be so in other words your consciousness is what's ruining speech maybe maybe your focus too much on it and the song lets you break your stream of thought that is destroying
00:37:29| your your should you have too much going on you can't think about the word itself you're busy thinking of the melody you're thinking of the timing you're thinking of the pitch singing you're
00:37:36| already thinking the next line and refrain you know time to be like today Junior yeah mm-hmm mm-hmm it's interesting maybe I also think they've been using music therapy for a lot of
00:37:50| kids that won't speak on time people recovering from strokes music is like the go-to thing it's like it's super innate we discussed that in the beginning but it is yeah I surmise not
00:38:03| on pandered and on tanner nick surmise it's the sixth sense not seeing dead people not the movie by a million that music is actually sense unto itself I would argue because every sense is tied
00:38:18| very strongly to memory right yeah if you smell something from Grandma's house when you grew up and 40 years later you haven't smelled that since and you smell it oh you'll remember the house that the
00:38:32| colors like the the floor like if you smell that exact smell whatever it is the recall operating of some kind of it's a total recall total recall there's always a yeah and I think music shows
00:38:47| that exact sign it's not just it's not just sound it's it's tied to emotion it's it's maybe it's touching sound but it's not white sound it's not quite Louise so
00:38:57| this is president this is president every day because I have a son who's about four months old and if you talk to him he'll get a little bit laugh at you but if you do
00:39:06| like a little and then like you know do like a little bit except serenade he loves him but he yeah he loves it he's completely in tune with it you could tell that there's like a resonance there
00:39:22| there's a feedback and he somehow even though he was saying what the words are he loves it you know yeah I'm sure you know that with your own son yeah musicality into it's a sixth sense I'm
00:39:32| calling it I'm telling everyone it helps with recall it helps with building up the other senses you can have it when you can't hear which is interesting right
00:39:41| deaf people know what music is they can enjoy music yeah so there's a the deaf people usually enjoy the heavier beats the beat would be a rhythm right there's you can feel it with your body I can
00:39:50| feel it yeah I think if you crank some monitors up at them loud enough in a chair you could probably get more sounds only because loud enough the sound would probably you could probably feel maybe
00:40:04| not the high highs but you could probably feel more than just the bass in the drum you could probably start to feel I'm surprised I didn't do an experiment on this like if you could put
00:40:13| frequencies in different areas of the body like if your fingertips were different frequencies and you hit them with different you know at the same time but with like a song like your index
00:40:22| finger was like low notes and like your pinky finger was like high notes you could feel the song through your hands so we so we never discussed the most basic part and I didn't write it down at
00:40:32| all of music that you intake it through your ears usually and all the same time it's like the texture of music but just the physical property so it hits your ears in vibrates your ears because your
00:40:46| inner ear canal it's the famous the hammer and the piston and aneisa yeah you are making this up hammer this diamond I thought you were going to do it without looking so there's the hope
00:40:58| with the ear drum which is the the outer portion which is total and that resonates with a hammer of sorts at in something in a still hanok membrane and then it's you know you
00:41:10| don't have any of this to pentanone oh I don't know what that membrane is the tympanic one is the one that vibrates so then it hit your eardrum and goes middle ear inner ear and then goes through some
00:41:20| tube so there's there's no there's what three parts and Vil I say that's okay yeah hammer and bill stirrup start stapes is the yeah the malleus incus and stapes and then as this is all going so
00:41:40| literally we're just transferring vibrations from one weird thing to another weird thing to hitting something at a certain speed that you just yeah recorded and then it goes to the cochlea
00:41:49| is that's a little thing with the little tiny hairs oh yeah yeah so it's like it it's like almost like a seashell like it's circular and it starts to shrink as it curves in and in and then there's
00:41:58| hairs inside there that vibrate and then change your your I guess it's your all audible area so it's like it's it's a vibration that goes through like there's like a I think there's a liquid in there
00:42:11| too that like vibrates down with the nerves nerves and then the nerves pick it up is electoral some stimuli right and then the electro Simmons goes to the auditory corner of it we're done and
00:42:21| that goes to your brain your brain is like well I just got so much information let's unpack with you yeah and actually get personal here so my wife has a hearing loss that involves the auditory
00:42:32| nerve being I guess it's neuropathy so like their nerve dies so all the other stuff works yeah all the other stuff works so it's kind of a weird 'no swear she can she could pick up different
00:42:45| noises but it wouldn't it would be like garbled because of the nerve doesn't transmit the founder yeah but there are cochlear implants which take a digital signal and then send it beyond the nerve
00:42:56| so it's directly a plain animal brain which is kind of like yeah it's like well if you were listening to like a video game from like a long time ago like a Nintendo game it gets ended of
00:43:09| one 16 bits or whatever bits have remained bits the noises they could bring it back yeah and I think everyone should listen to that because if you listen to a sound an
00:43:19| what people are saying and that's exactly what if you got words yeah that's interesting but they have different versions so they did up you know from 8-bit 16-bit and they kept
00:43:28| going and going and going until people can can make out words pretty clearly if it's all working properly do you don't have a bit number on that I was just really curious I don't think they got up
00:43:40| to 64 bit I think they got it for like Santoli like way higher to distinguish all that but no no no no I think even our episodes are think they're 32 bit when we release them so like at a
00:43:57| certain point it's again it's the value-oriented oh it's 64 bit is the best it's like that doesn't matter because you can't discern the difference 16 the lossless
00:44:12| audio so if there's anything that hits me in the beginning now yeah I'm just curious thank you didn't know that no no just try something else in here but I'll miss
00:44:27| it hey that's okay that's cool and we're gonna come back to something like this yeah yeah you can talk about people who can't perceive music so yeah we're I mean warning the subject area my grandma
00:44:41| my grandmother was deaf she's the baby says all the time we would play tricks on her not tricks but like like we limit me me and my sister would always be like yelling I'm gonna do something bad the
00:44:53| same she could hear but like she could tell if we were yelling definitely good and we would stomp on the floor to get her attention she had her lights eyes just wild now I think I'm just
00:45:03| remembering a whole bunch of stuff her phone was uh hooked up to the light to now so they're all blank no click yeah TTY machine yeah yeah all my stuff is pain in the ass it is I think the only
00:45:16| ingredient because the world is based on your five senses yeah we had expenses yeah doorbell lights would flicker that's why we have dogs the dogs will alert her I didn't know that's pretty
00:45:28| see ya what you sell the clicker now the flickers pain the ass so that you just rely on the dogs I'm work plus I'm here most of the time and then captioning everything is captioning yeah I mean I
00:45:39| that's not a big deal I I grew up with that that was on every TV and it it's funny you so different programs have different captioners and different ones are different grades of good different
00:45:49| grades of slow different grades to spell everything wrong the funniest are the ones that spell something wrong take and he's back back he's going back Oh another fumble and then the person like
00:45:59| I already talked about the next subject and the person is like back black back flat and then the person like stops did you see the back station did you do 9 times didn't they fix it back and then
00:46:09| sometimes people stop like they see the mistake it's that they keep going or like who cared I have guys just juggle off that's pretty funny yeah but um so there are people not like cuz deaf
00:46:19| people can dance my grandmother could dance well she's good at it probably not good but I mean think of it 90% of dancing is hearing the bass-heavy yes yeah and going with
00:46:30| them I mean you're not called by the guitar solo or anything you're not dancing to that so you're dancing to the lowest notes so what there are people who can hear can hear and also they just
00:46:41| they can't dance they can't so there's two different types there's one where you can't distinguish the pitch so a song will generally like vary between very tight pitches and there are certain
00:46:52| people that just can't hear the difference in pitches so they'll be listening to a song it'll sound like the same note over and over again so they don't know when the change in pitch is
00:47:02| happening so when you're at a high school dance and there's someone that says they can't dance maybe they really can't dance it's maybe they're not socially awkward maybe they just don't
00:47:13| hear music the way you do that's possible but I think rhythm is different than pitch perception ah the reason I know this the reason I know this is because I watched a video today by Carly
00:47:26| Rae Jepsen VIPRE vice haha was on Netflix I wanted to check it out and it was very misleading I thought it was about why diets never work and like why what's in our plastic and it's one of
00:47:38| the stupid things I was wasting time and it came on it was just about music I was like I didn't ask for this this is me Carly Rae Jepsen I was like no one said she was in this and she did a thing and
00:47:49| they talked about animals apparently parrots and stuff can match pitch right makes sense yeah they can match your voice so they have to be able I could hear it like whatever what they don't
00:48:02| understand is on different timbre they can't go hard or soft they don't really understand tempo they can just do a constant beat where they move and a constant time
00:48:14| they also found with apes and stuff that um you can teach them rhythm but they don't naturally have it they have to they're just timing something mm-hmm they also are horrible pitch there's
00:48:27| something like whales like whales sing what they're giving birth or whatever we have different pitches and everything but yeah and they someone said that they do have rhythm it's much slower than
00:48:35| ours but it's not really regardless they can't find an animal that contains pitch rhythm dynamics and timbre like just none of them have it so it's weird that humans are the only ones who have all
00:48:48| all of names caja I was like yep like a parakeet it's ringing what it does a metal hey Bob it's a badass parrot so like a parakeet maybe is from like the kilohertz and a human being is like 20
00:49:11| to 20,000 Hertz so a parakeet can't hear all of the frequencies that a human being can hear wait he can make the sounds I hear them he can't there might be a different he can't hear all of the
00:49:21| sounds that we can hear how humans range is much larger in their markets is range always the same that you can make and you can hear I'm not sure that you would make a sound if you couldn't perceive it
00:49:35| in hearing no no but I would imagine you could hear more than you could make because your vocal cords might be limited but your ears wouldn't numb just imagine I think it would be the reverse
00:49:44| actually you think you could hear less than you can I think you would accidentally make extra noises whereas you can't perceive as many noises of you as you can hear well I I don't know
00:49:55| I don't know how high the human vocal cords can get what are we at on six octaves I have no idea it's eight we're not a doubt if that's too much six vocal range this is gonna be difficult to find
00:50:09| in the ten seconds that you gave me none of my stuff I got in to really talk about like dog whistles like we can't hear a dog whistle no I but we can how about um dog
00:50:28| whistles there's stuff that we can actually be hit with it is a sound will vibrate our ear and just too high we can't register it it's like yeah above twenty kilohertz like dogs I think in
00:50:42| here it was like 65 kilohertz dog that's why I dog whistle you blow it and a dog it's annoying stomp stomp and you're like I can't hear anything real high-pitched sounds um for
00:50:57| a while they thought there might be damaging but really ultimately it breaks down to how loud the body that's now close to your ear drop it is so most of the time it's not actually dangerous um
00:51:09| I came across something sinister and the opposite did you come across sounds under 20 Hertz and what they can do to even beings so it's the same thing with electronics so like the lower frequency
00:51:23| has more power it doesn't attenuate as quickly attenuation is like the loss of power over a distance so like really high frequency sounds don't puncture through right right they have to be
00:51:33| closed and be closed your ear yeah extend that hurt you damnit it's a lot of energy but it's it's using really quick hello or frequency can can go over far their distance much farther and
00:51:45| still retain its power um they think that it's called infrasound it sounds below 20 Hertz usually 20 to 7 Hertz that may affect human blood pressure fear nausea and dizziness there are no
00:52:03| laws in place right now but uh they're finding that some workplaces that are to overcrowd like a place that has like millions of employees or thousands of people in an
00:52:11| office chances are they could have a piece of heavy equipment in there whether it's an air conditioning unit something else that's not secured properly and it's producing sound waves
00:52:22| at seven Hertz people are complaining of being fatigued donkey noise margin busy whatever this came into play especially I want to say four to six months ago when the US diplomats in China and Cuba
00:52:39| well that was debunked right I think I couldn't find anything well I read a story that I mean I heard from an expert that it was debunked I don't know who your expert is because I googled it
00:52:51| tonight and I was like let's see what really happened and we just articles from June hmm all the articles were in June every one of them and it was like you know you're an ad and diplomats
00:53:01| pulled out and it was apparently people were getting sick and they they don't know why like something was so that depends on the decibels right like you're talking about of certain
00:53:10| frequency at a certain decibel we didn't really talk about like what decibels we hear normally so there's the softest sound you can hear is zero zero decibels a whisper is around maybe 20 decibels
00:53:23| range in 120 it's good enough to get it right jet engine it depends on the engine I guess it's up to auto let me let me work my way up rain falls back yeah speech is about 60 really a washing
00:53:39| machine 75 City traffic is about 85 so at 85 they start talking about hello your exposure yeah so if you're constantly exposed to city drive about eight hours a day you're at a threshold
00:53:53| where you can be damaged by it you can start to lose your hearing noise pollution quite literally mm-hmm exactly I lived on harvestin Avenue it was a six-lane highway that led to 95 and it
00:54:05| was like you could hear stuff all night all day I only lived there for like nine months but it was it was a different experience did you have any ambulances going by
00:54:15| cuz they're like 120 DB and 120 DB it's not if you're right next to it that's not good you can all my listen to that for maybe 30 seconds before you start to have damage
00:54:26| we got to crazy because I used to run alongside ambulances at full speed and I was a quick kid so sometimes would be a minute before I lost them no I've heard plenty maybe on says goodbye but I
00:54:37| wasn't hanging out with them interesting so wait our ambulance workers in danger not weird we just crack open the case yeah I think is that a profession there they lose their hearing quickly please I
00:54:54| don't know it's a good question I will go back to dancing though so okay so the fifth fact on my page I started 20 minutes ago yes is why we dance but we hear music and sometimes we can't stop
00:55:11| it can't stop the music huh hmm why do those dance dance content's if you want to because I our mind is mapping out the beats in mapping out the beats they actually do it physically as well as
00:55:27| psychologically so we're hearing the beats we're predicting the beats that's the beauty of your brain it's always predicting well it's predicting them physically too so you're almost or
00:55:38| you're generally words their biology on our hand yeah I mean you're just using a body part don't have to be you're not drumming it's not like you're like Oakland the boost Rome with one foot
00:55:46| you're just predicting a beat coming with your hand good foot it could be with your fingers for this come here this but anyway you start predicting it and actually extra blood they find uh
00:55:58| works its way to like your legs your arms make sure fields if you're feeling good dopamine coming out here it's coming out to your ends makes you feel good your reward center for hitting the
00:56:08| beats on time actually it plays important role in that so like you hit them your brain feels good even if you're not like conscious of you're like damn I'm good and then it compels us to
00:56:20| it's a feedback loop so now you're you're in it and now you're like yeah yeah what you got on dancin dancin fool it's like I'm dancing on the battlefield of love and gonna murder y'all with my
00:56:34| beats my moves tell us what that's a reference to so I guess when I was younger I was always afraid to dance I don't know it may be an introvert and I never got out there
00:56:45| to just like just enjoy myself and just ignore what people thought of me because I guess that's how introverts think they always think people are looking at them rather than but you always good vibes
00:56:54| out bad vibes in judging yeah yeah but at some point that changed so I started like a weddings I love weddings now everybody did you dance at your wedding I most certainly did thank you no I was
00:57:06| drinking at your wedding no no yeah yeah it's anybody out there that's like worried about it I mean just let go just forget about all the bullshit that you might be holding up about just let
00:57:20| go dance on the battlefield with love interesting you say that and interesting you had this exact sentence I don't want a copy on pandered end uh-huh I never wanted to dance I was nervous I
00:57:31| was a nerd and eighth-grade and stuff but whatever when I started on seventh grade I was like five ninth grade changed when I started playing music in ninth grade baek's actually my sense of
00:57:46| rhythm changed it became internalized I know that sounds overhyped but it really did I think I could just I was confident enough that I could play an open time and learning things and do some playing
00:57:59| in time yeah I host like every foot feel it the one yeah the one step but literally then you start feeling it and once you can feel a beat then you don't lose it you especially if you're
00:58:12| practicing a bunch or you're doing stuff like did you feel music you can't lose it if you're counting out loud like I used to think that's how people dance they would be like moving my right hand
00:58:21| moving my left hand moving my right no yeah like doing the wall yeah like two triangles you're trying to move into yeah and one two three challenge me like that was my idea
00:58:32| dancing and terrible nose and I was like come on Camille it's not a just like a hundred percent feel it awesome can't screw up yeah you do it and I am will copy on Penn and NSA I love weddings I
00:58:46| love dancing like hell at every wedding - I make a scene I have a good time that's the older women think I'm a great dancer really I'm just an okay dancer it's the it's the essence of the
00:59:00| personality seeping out right there mmm-hmm I will say my wife since she can't hear the beat very well she only guess which was it that also overcomes well she's okay
00:59:17| she's kind of good okay maybe good for what she is you know I'll give it to her but I feel like no and what if she was better in you're holding her back to it you're holding her to a lower standard
00:59:28| because you think yeah I don't know but it also made me realize that like there are people out there that are disadvantaged in certain ways like they have the Museu they can't listen the
00:59:41| pitch they also have like beat deafness so they can't actually hear what the beat is be definite real by the way it is 4% of people have it the same thing with the pitch
00:59:50| yes 4% which is a large number of people that's a lot of people is it all one in one countries like Germany and just the country Germany is bad at others I don't know if they include older people who
01:00:00| can't hear anything but that might affect things it does affect all I does but having to dance with my wife who doesn't hear music in any way that I do it teaches me that like you have to
01:00:14| enjoy yourself instead of like trying to match what someone else is doing and maybe you like you do your own thing and then come back to that person and make sure they're not you know they're not
01:00:23| lonely over there but then you do your own thing so you have to figure it out you have to make your own music make your own moves me and my girlfriend who I sometimes
01:00:33| hate sometimes love oh yeah it would sing at weddings were Reid ants to toto by Africa and we do like an elaborate dancing how wow this is in a movie the tango and it involves like lifts and
01:00:45| like spins and like wow like rotting product ritualistic moves and we do it all the time but we've never once talked about it we've never against choreographed it and it's never the same
01:00:57| ever and I'd say 90% of it probably looks like we do it time 10% of time we probably miss eggs a little bit who knows late it's so weird I forgot
01:01:08| about that and a shout-out her I don't camera shot ever on this project yes so I will Toto buy Africa okay oh maybe not the reason Virgin although knows you know
01:01:20| was a good version you've heard it right I hope you guys get married so I can just turn about yeah that by week Dakota by our Weezer by Weezer no I thought it was the band
01:01:38| was Africa Toto is the know is it Africa by Weezer I guess it is Africa by Toto by Weezer so it's Africa by toto okay cool so this leads us to our next area which is called the dancing plague of
01:01:59| Piper what why do you say that that's weird I never heard the Pied Piper involved with this but I'll read you the excerpt I own my video clicked it or what's the word hole were you uh a
01:02:12| screen shot thank you homeboy in July been part of Holy Roman Empire were struck by a sudden and seemingly uncontrollable urge to dance the hysteria kicked off when a woman known
01:02:30| as Frau Trofeo stepped into the street and began to silently twist twirl and shake she kept up her solo dances on for nearly a week and before long some three dozen other stress bourgeois had joined
01:02:46| in by August the dancing epidemic had claimed as many as four hundred victims with no other explanation for the phenomenon local physicians blamed it on hot blood make sense of majestic the
01:03:00| afflicted simple gyrate the fever oh this is justice yeah the afflicted simply gyrate the fever away stage was constructed and professional dancers were brought in the town even hired
01:03:14| provide backing music but it wasn't long before the marathon started to take its toll they danced from sheer exhaustion and some died from strokes I didn't copy the rest of that page but like four
01:03:26| hundred people died from dancing and no one knows what started it and I said I think that's the most ridiculous thing I've heard I don't know I just want to dance for a week straight until I die
01:03:36| like do you think she stopped the poop eat sleep I have no idea oh man hey they came up with a drug that's probably like they invented in a drug that was one of the so I went on a
01:03:49| tangent here we're like they started talking about sonic booms this is sorry I'm gonna come back to this Pied Piper never mind me so sonic booms so like when a plane hits Mach 1 the like sonic
01:04:03| needed one once it's out of line the ASBO sound it's just like seven something which does be descent I want to say it's seven get rid of down 60 something like one speed sound anyway
01:04:17| the speed of sound 17 miles per hour oh that's it yeah so they they did a test in I think it was like Oklahoma City where they had multiple planes hitting Mach 1 and the boom that's
01:04:32| created the sonic boom is when the sound waves cannot move faster than the plane so there's a what I didn't know is that when it hits a sonic boom and goes faster than 717 Mach 1 it has a
01:04:46| continuous boom and that boom just keeps going with the plane they did an experiment where every every day they would do like six or seven sets of sonic booms and it would like break windows
01:04:59| and crack mortar and stuff and build links so people complained it also led me on a trail that fed into drugs so they did so I'm assuming that this this dance-a-thon was probably started by the
01:05:13| german town inventing some sort of drug probably like an ecstasy like drug where they just wanted to dance that's it yeah and the CIA had like MKULTRA MKULTRA was like they started
01:05:25| testing LSD and various drugs on people to see what their reactions were yeah yeah yeah those are the government yeah project and we'll talk about this in a later episode because it was really
01:05:36| fascinating what the government has done to people and it's awful well interesting you brought that up leads to our next subject it does gainer truly does that's a smart cookie mmm has
01:05:54| anyone ever heard of uh trying to pronounce this classical era narrow matter a large Meyer Juna she's Arjuna ah what all right that doesn't matter Oona anyway apparently um it's become
01:06:11| closely associated with music which are energy women music so maybe it affects our senses and our sixth sense music is affected by it so a lot of stoners say music sounds better hey man have you
01:06:26| ever listened to it on weed yeah they lean in and you're like come on dude I I get you I'm a scientist I have a job I have a kid I don't do that kind of stuff so I did a little research of my own
01:06:38| okay and I googled it I don't know where my thought I was going we're not investigatory journalists here go around running ruining people's lives and mint acting funny yeah bloody did no matter
01:06:53| who they cared because I'm an investigatory journalist how many people I live bloody so um in the United States at least I don't know about elsewhere jazz music in the 20th century became
01:07:08| like synonymous with marijuana um I didn't realize this because I realized that I didn't realize how old school was so Dizzy Gillespie and like Louie Armstrong they're like Louie Armstrong
01:07:21| like the trumpet guy oh yeah but like that's like real old school he like makes Miles Davis look old or young I said that wrong but like he's one of those old guys I'm like I he's one of
01:07:33| those old school guys playing the trumpet apparently like these guys were big in the weed that was their thing they were like we do this all the time it helps us play
01:07:41| our music performance-enhancing drugs a little bit the one of the girls from Fleetwood Mac I was a singer long yoga players said that it'd be working on a song for three hours and then they would
01:07:55| listen to it again after hitting the weed and then you'd be nailing a whole different song movie I'm not sure I'm not sure if it was teamed it with maybe no
01:08:04| I know who they are I don't know which one it was it was just a quote for someone I'm just even a female possibilities thank you I just learned a baseline to know the other one break the
01:08:20| chain I was learning that while we were setting up do just the bass is playing a shout out to least row if you've seen that video of her doing uh I don't know there's a live loop so she plays every
01:08:47| instrument and then adds to it oh that's cool wait for what song she does a Foo Fighters song I think she does Everlong yes I did um see this in either your history or my history or maybe he said
01:08:59| Fanny Isaac I didn't see the whole thing because I was you need to look at it again and everyone and she did another one called burn which I like that's my favorite one but it's impressive to have
01:09:13| her go around and I don't know how she did actually like captures the loop and then like regurgitates it back because she does like five different she does drums bass guitar yeah it's bad a
01:09:26| process she's a badass I can sing them but I know people loop introversive do it anyway um so I did a little scientific study I was trying to figure out does not want to actually
01:09:36| affect how you listen to music or is it just the perceived thing or like is it just cool to say it apparently they think that marijuana does one of four things it expands your timing
01:09:51| so someone who experiences 15 seconds of real-time thinks that are experiencing sixteen point five seven don't ask me where they came up these goddamn number three 2014 article I don't see me
01:10:05| thinking slower faster hey about sixteen point five seven seconds go by for every fourteen or seconds slightly faster okay right now your your brains moving faster but everything else is moving slow so
01:10:22| you get some sort of like syncopation you get some kind of okay so there's a weird there's more time to think inside your own head that's why people become people's get over Blanton all supposedly
01:10:38| what we've heard anyway it's called expanded timing so your mind's eye becomes faster your consciousness is faster but everything else seems slower really it's probably everything slowing
01:10:51| down your mind's eye staying the same but we won't get into that it also is a product of relaxation so you're not really paying attention to external stimuli you're literally paying
01:11:01| attention to the music because who gives a damn dude your attention oh I just that came with relaxation I combined both good job me next we have what I've summed up with all three of these is
01:11:18| called a shorter here present moment you're here moment becomes actually shorter like we mentioned earlier a present moment and listening to music is like three to eight seconds or two to
01:11:30| four seconds short memorable person may be on marijuana short-term memory is even shorter mmm because like I said that brain is moving quicker so two seconds to them is really
01:11:40| one second so three seconds of memory is really like 1.5 seconds okay so now they're looking at a 1.5 second window of music basically we're playing five seconds not a lot no it makes it
01:11:53| slower makes everything seem like man I've been waiting forever for the refrain when's it coming Oh Pam makes it oh shit look at the chorus
01:12:04| it's still coming oh oh they're gonna use the same notes oh my god that's crazy and then you're like this you're like wait the bass is still doing it the guitarist
01:12:14| is on it the drummer changed up this chorus move dude that's bad so you're more in it but also it is slower to your brain like it seems slower so you have more time to look at it more time to
01:12:30| focus on it and more kind of to think about it so you're looking at it and you're like dude I never realized how tasty that bass lick is it's like what cuz usually it's song goes by much
01:12:42| quicker someone who may have partaken in marijuana can attest to this feeling it's a feeling of slower like a drop of water ooh you can feel it drop if you were
01:12:55| sober and I dropped what happened you'd be like that water just dropped that was annoying it's over when you listen to a song sober usually it kind of goes by the steady beat or rhythm you can
01:13:05| predict at all when you're under the influence of THC especially a lot of it it's wild because everything slower so everything's bigger everything's happening wilder you're paying more
01:13:18| attention to it you're not even looking at the outside world you're looking at this thing like what holy crap they're playing clocks in the back of Pink Floyd or the Coxes doing hair like you have
01:13:31| more time to ask all these questions and you're kind of stupider I will say hmm but it is very mystical is the scientific explanation I can give everything seemed slower to a person on
01:13:44| th say and I will say it rent a story about two guys who got into a Ford Escort went behind an area made a mix CD it was snowing and they turn on a CD that they labeled good and it has Led
01:14:03| Zeppelin dazed and confused and they listen to it stoned out of their minds behind a Guitar Center actually and it was wild you can see snowflakes falling snow er slower and slower an
01:14:19| hour you can hear the bass notes playing like individuals you can see everything coming together slower you can feel the refrain coming back like five minutes away you could almost see it coming you
01:14:34| could just it was probably wild for those individuals I've had many two of you would call my movies I read that were about that being
01:14:44| entranced by the music come hundred percent you're very in it you're also wander like I was just mentioning a hundred percent attentive so I'll bring him back to percent okay I'll bring back
01:14:54| to the Pied Piper of Hamelin so they had that what the Pied Piper was supposed to be able to like there I think there was like a rat infestation and the Pied Piper could bring out the rats but he in
01:15:05| return he asked for children like he would also Pied Piper the children out of the doubt I did not hear this this I mean this is coming from my very poor memory of and also no good I I mean I I
01:15:19| never took the darkness of the Pied Piper to conciliation that's but I mean they they tied in the music musicality of the Pied Piper and the like the power of music into children disappearing
01:15:31| which and I think of reality is children being maybe like catching a disease or like the industrialization of Germany at the time I think there was like little work in the town so children left so
01:15:44| they're tying it back to someone who's so musically adept that they could lure people away which also feeds into like sirens like sailors on the sea they always said like the sirens had this
01:15:57| song that would lure them into the waters and seduced them essentially they get men what men would dive to their deaths to go towards the sound knowing they were dying they had to get they're
01:16:09| compelled so are you saying are you tying that into nowadays and like being so drawn to music or something but like you ruin your life for it or like your Bieber fan 400 and yeah everywhere I
01:16:24| don't know there you go something yeah I'm talking about some of that be like so entrancing so alluring that you would get sucked into it and music it's one of those
01:16:33| things that you know babies hear when they're real little maybe you still have that essence that if you hear a song that can suck you in and get stuck by it and you get lured into whatever trap it
01:16:45| is that's how I like to finish it here's a quick question for you do you uh you still listen to music like Eastover no 30s the definition of life like I used to is that's what that I
01:17:01| mean very few songs are brand new to me regurgitation how many beats how many possibilities of songs are there I mean there's infinite but there's some that sound a lot like previous ones and pop
01:17:16| songs tend to do that quite a lot I don't disagree so four chords that made a million listen to that's a that's a great song that's all will you listen to on your way to work
01:17:28| talk radio whatever radio talk like pop radio like what do you do I mean so I have like all the songs from my previous probably like 20 years of existence I have on one USB so there's like a pop
01:17:43| section which is lowering how big how big this isn't how many songs as eight gigs which is I don't know how many songs oh Jesus Christ I have a I have a music collection I have a problem where
01:17:54| I am I used to label my music download it legally from torrent sites and send money to the artist to make sure they were covered yeah but I would do it with discographies artists everyone I came
01:18:07| across I wasn't - was that the 240 gigabytes of music and properly labeled and properly in folders by artist and then by album and then by track order and I couldn't have a CD that was just
01:18:22| like one two hit I could never do that's why I didn't like pop music as much I needed an album I needed twelve tracks so my music that I'm talking about is my car does not take more than a cakes so I
01:18:34| have one right maybe that is a cake okay so I have a hundred and eighty three gigabytes of music that I I sliced raw eel for me nice yeah we we spliced our TVs a little
01:18:48| bit in there whose change okay yeah so I mean most of them are like maybe pop music in the middle where like it reminds me of a time frame because the radio plays it constantly and it makes
01:19:02| me think of the time where I was doing this thing other music is I think in high school I really focused on different types of bands so like Dave Matthews Band Incubus 311 all sorts of
01:19:16| things that I started when I was first listening music like EEP six or inside out inside out Metallica Everclear or Nimrod what was a Nimrod it was a great day Green Day yeah dookey dookey
01:19:34| offspring that those were the that was the impetus a I am I don't disagree listen I'm not I wasn't asking for your musical choices in general yeah I was asking about your music use so on your
01:19:46| way to work you shuffle it what do you do you listen to it to you some randomized weather traffic never listen them weather or traffic okay I don't know how about the shower you ever
01:19:58| listen to music yeah get on my blue jeans you're into it tonight there's one of my first time so I usually listen to this yeah yeah get some some dance moves in there get a little personal share
01:20:15| that was a future podcast yeah I will repeat donators of the patron I get a little fade out here no cuz I don't know what the play I would just I just wanted to grab it man we do a recap are you
01:20:29| gonna fade out do a rehab type of sigh I don't haven't plugged in so yeah frequency pitch timbre the texture of music melody rhythm tempo beats per minute
01:20:46| jazz music of the 20s the dancing plague of 1518 a proponent of us mmm US diplomats in China and Cuba getting sick from sonic weapons and the same ruler can do it on painters look at them
01:21:01| euphony and cacophony and consonance and dissonance pitch rhythm dynamics timbre beats per minute we didn't talk about the larynx at all but that's okay phonetics yeah phonation I think Kurt
01:21:17| Vonnegut Confucius say hearing loss cochlear implants deafness beat deafness and then a museu we're talking about a little bit of that by the human voice the hearing range I
01:21:31| don't know what else we're talking about did we cover anything else bass guitar drums huh guess when you drink you're uh-oh I guess folks the important thing here is
01:22:00| that we do like you we like quite a bit and we like your your contributions in the comment sections and everything else and all your patron on money and all your money and all the money you send us
01:22:12| and all this but thank you anyway keep doing it folks thanks for tuning in and uh well sorry need you i guess we will send you a song hae's you don't all you [Music]
01:22:38| I have to cut them off here good night guys yeah you're gonna have to do
00:00:25| lives today we're going to talk about the connections between music and memory join us so I'm Dan and I'm Nick books for old friends dissecting one topic at a time
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00:01:12| time open up your earholes [Music] alright those are sweet beat now available at the Virgin Megastore compusa tower records circuitcity me to
00:01:39| play Sam Goody or Suncoast any of those stores that wish they still existed well what about coconuts is coconuts that exists a national store did you say the wall as well the wall yeah I'm
00:01:58| guaranteed on those bad boys yeah we got licks coming from everywhere this is a lick up so we're just going to sit here and chill with y'all we're just gonna play music we're having a talk you guys
00:02:11| want to turn off your mics we're gonna get French to death don't let your parents know close the bedroom door and let's get in a jam with my ice cubes because it's a Lea Tork random noises
00:02:27| that make sound into music it's interesting when not when you pour a drink you know you're pouring a drink because it's a nice mixture sounds same thing when you're playing a bass it's a
00:02:46| mixture of sounding it sure is what is sound that would eat you friggin ooze yeah it's not scientifically proven [Laughter] literally just vibrations right yeah
00:03:00| just a chance oh good on my abbreviations it's all I know yeah ruined by the movement would not be this great movie um I wanted to read a few quotes about music everyone has a
00:03:17| most women or teenage girls who have a blog will put this women when I went to school and had this in their aim BIOS I what that was called your body yeah thanks ah yeah profile whatever it was
00:03:30| called here's a good one music is the only proof I need for the existence of God that could be anyone teenage girl up it's Kurt Vonnegut Kurt Vonnegut is yeah he's like a famous author I was like
00:03:42| that's where here's another one without music life would be a mistake sounds like ah what Britney Spears like who's that one Nietzsche anyway so then I went on music
00:03:56| gives a soul to the universe wings to the mind flight to the imagination and life to everything that's beautiful it's some kind of a current day a pure art Pharrell Pharrell Williams
00:04:09| no it's play-doh play-doh actually said that well these guys are stoned that's what I can tell you last one I got here is music produces a kind of pleasure plays your which human nature cannot do
00:04:21| without I was like damn is that Nirvana club nope Confucius dammit fantastic cousin who doesn't have a good music quote then I've heard to me this is like the person who puts in their tinder bio
00:04:34| I like music yeah dude we all do good job buddy don't that's a thing we all like music right yeah I think that happens for a very young age even as a baby they say you can react to different
00:04:48| types of noises you have an a distressful reaction to certain noises they call it so there's cacophony which is a like a cacophony of annoying things it's a
00:05:01| mixture of noises that you don't like there's the opposite which might be your bass playing I'm not sure they call it euphony like euphoric you Ford audio so here two two excerpts so this the first
00:05:18| one's supposed to be something you like so that's the you ffunny you're gonna play along as I go just a touch it's hard to put it down when you start like at you I know there's a when you play it
00:05:34| you feel like there's a maybe you're like it's a mantra well yeah you're like meditating a little bit I am glad that I played instruments when I grew up because it
00:05:44| was a different type of meditation than anything you could do it definitely resonates just like this next passage will as soon as you put the damn bass down
00:05:56| alright folks put the downright expensive piece of wood lot of mahogany a lot of did you get to the oil bet every day with your own handles ha ma extra grease like overhead
00:06:13| whole week since I played it so it's kind of feels weird he's getting if you've had friends who are musicians they do this constantly they'll just pick up their instrument
00:06:24| and start jamming and then they can completely ignore you it's something that just he's trying to he's trying to hold on that was a perfect release you almost always hear interference when you
00:06:41| do that folks the worst is drummers ok because the drummer can only play loudly and they can only fill a room with sound and they can only and then they find a sick beef
00:06:56| that they love and they're like the only way I think a drummer can commit something to memory as a muscle memory thing they actually have to physically play through a meter like 10 times or 20
00:07:06| times to commit it to a physical memory because it's not as mental coming it's almost more physical so it's not their fault that you're a loser ok so human speech has this this nice
00:07:20| rhythm to it or not and these are two excerpts from poets this first one is supposed to be Pleasant rhythmical and harmonious it's an example of euphony so some day love shall claim it's his own
00:07:32| someday right ascend his throne someday hidden truth be known someday some sweet day Milani mom come on can you tell me the first 10 words of that I'll show you a trick some day love
00:07:47| shall claim his own someday right back as long as thrown some weight some day love show plain you're supposed to glow with paper bc holding his ladder to his face holding a paper in my face
00:07:57| there's a way you could do this someday love shall throw away the keys to my love and my throne and overtop it without Nair a problem the world in itself find there's a way we used to
00:08:11| do a thing called stress and anti stress and most human speech in English at least the most ear pleasing ways to do a stressed word an unstressed word of stress words like I am back pentameter
00:08:23| yeah yeah a little bit yeah I mean but in the actual speech with just the words we yeah no natural speech does that like up and down kind of rhythm so people can follow along to
00:08:32| what you're saying mm-hmm so this is a cacophony which is harsh often dissonant sounds things that are fun so babies react to these words negatively even before they know what
00:08:44| words are my stick fingers click with a snicker and chuckling they knuckle the keys light-footed my steel feelers fickle and pluck from these keys melodies it does sound kind of yeah yeah
00:08:59| it's like it's hard to swallow I didn't like it I wouldn't swallow those sticky fingers hello this knuckle a keys not man not not a fan Danny huh so the new fliers mascot just fell have you seen
00:09:13| them idea I don't understand why they need a scout that's as gritty but I don't know sorry I'm just retweeting his fault or there's a lot of people need to see it
00:09:27| okay retweet check we just lost your viewer I think this is much of a retweet show mm-hmm so talk about did you find the definition of músicos I'm doing oh
00:09:41| definitely oh wait now I did good sound in university you know what sound has what loudness to it decibels and then has a frequency to it yeah I have um music kind of touches on that dynamics
00:09:56| yeah it's interesting because there are different definitions for the scientific version of sound transmittal and what a human hears it's like frequency has an analogue that if a human hears it it's
00:10:07| the pitch because pitch is different for people what we own yeah life's like yeah it's a turtle eyes than its unique so like perfect telling varies from working program it
00:10:19| okay what of that well let's get into music then because we're gonna touch on this amusing so let's just do this it makes music week it does actually just agree with you yeah well there's a
00:10:31| reason why I'll say music is drumroll folks bass play folks guitar strum folks it is an art form and cultural activity whose medium is sound organized over time this reminds me of George Michael
00:10:49| from - modern yeah a restaurant yeah I guess I owe Modern Family that's a show okay at least I was thinking of a family comedy show no Arrested Development George Michael he wants to join the band
00:11:02| but he had no musical practice and he has a wood block and a block and he says please let me join the band uncle so-and-so uncle Tobias and Lindsay and they go no you can't be and he's like oh
00:11:15| I can play drums like you can play music and he's like no but I'm always on time and that's like the exact same thing punctual is on time drummers have to have time anyway music is an art form
00:11:40| it's a culture activities medium is sound organized over time sure yeah there are four three four or five depending on whose definition you look up really important parts of music
00:11:50| broken into pitch which we just touched it's the melody or harmony da da da dun dun like the notes you know the way the notes it's literally the notes okay cool and the way something sounds next up is
00:12:05| rhythm or tempo articulation I can't talk to do drums at the same time okay isn't that dynamics it's tough dynamics which is loudness saw
00:12:24| and swelling of action decibels and all that stuff we're just like amber lastly was timber ah it's um texture color it's the it varies from instrument to instrument person to
00:12:39| person like you can play the same note on a $1200 bass guitar that you can play on like a yeah slight variations on how that the frequencies go mad on that it's it makes it sound to you
00:12:52| it does a flute note of the same note from this base will sound entirely different as well as that same note out of someone's mouth right yeah depends on what you're amplifying it with her
00:13:03| trying to make music with and then also what isn't music if someone's making the sound I know what I'm gonna use your own little well what was it something slower than that it doesn't
00:13:20| count as music because you're no longer Luuk hmm you want to expound I do um what else say is most music you come across today most music you hear on the radio most music your friends listen to
00:13:33| your parents listen to everyone and the world listens to you can find variants please do not go in the comment section say I know a song that's in 60 to 160 beats per minute he has a kind of a
00:13:44| standard pop song rock song most soul most blue who's most eighty songs was most every goddamn song II think up most there are variants what's ironic is that's also like common heart rates
00:14:00| I mean resting your national rhythm your ability is sense yeah cuz you sense in that time I mean when you're exercising you're in the 160s 180s you can get up to 200 or younger 160 if you're older
00:14:14| usually how codes I can't remember 160 like that I don't I missed it I think as you get older your max heart rate goes down right really is that I thought your so when you exercise like a kids max
00:14:29| heart rate is like close to 190 or something but like if you're 70 you better be like under 150 when you're exercise I yeah so like resting heartbeat gets
00:14:38| restricted by a rifra sclerosis I think thanks for the hardening hardening of the arteries that here it is it's a hardening heart ring of the our Denise our arteries so I already mean I guess
00:14:52| you can't yeah you can't I I guess your resting heart be goes down because you physically can't endure that much stress on your heart when you're older but does
00:15:01| that mean you you can't enjoy music I mean you can't hear me I mean well I wasn't saying that I was literally just talking about the human range of heartbeats Wow and how is it a
00:15:11| coincidence it coincides with our music I mean probably not although ironically that you bring it up old people do like slower music right nostril though the hip-hop and the loud metal music cuz
00:15:23| it's too fast well most people like to dance to music so if you're going too fast for an older person and you can't answer that music so it makes it less that's true in immerses oh yeah I would
00:15:36| say but um so what you were getting at earlier is sixties kind of the lower range of most songs you can find songs at forty forty five they surmise that as low as thirty three beats per minute by
00:15:47| oral psychologists is um the general cutoff for a slow something a bit because once you get outside of that you leave your subjective rhythm ization rhythm ization because usually you're
00:16:02| present for like three to eight seconds you're in a perceptual present and you need to hear a couple beats against each other because you when you um hear being internalized it
00:16:13| they say you you break it down the strong and weak beats so like boom boom boom I'm nodding my head it's a strong beat you feel what I'm saying yeah even if you because you differentiate the two
00:16:25| beats or the three beats or the four beats or whatever but usually one is a strong beat the others are weaker so you need to have at least two in your reference frame and if you span it out
00:16:35| too long they say that essentially you're trying to remember the old beat you're like yeah it was there no I'm here and it's a thing called being in the presence of
00:16:46| perceptual so that's like short-term memories like what half a sigh and long so if you guys think for seconds isn't two to four seconds it's longer than that something I got yeah so
00:16:56| it didn't yeah it's in this range so like you're yeah otherwise it's shifting into the different area memory and you're not pulling that from your your present memory
00:17:04| it's a stored because that definitely at that point you're looking you're on a beat and you're staring at a past beat that's in the distant past that you have to remember and you're thinking of a
00:17:13| future beat that's in the distant future usually when you listen to music you're just feeling all the beats because they're all in the present that's why they like all these things to kind of be
00:17:21| in your present that's why hence these numbers so would you say if you're dancing to a song and you're moving in such a way that you could capture the beat with your body do
00:17:30| you think you could make a song slower and have it still work maybe said I'm the only way to do it in drummers can do this I am you you break down 80 beats per minute and you internalize it like
00:17:43| this you're constantly counting faster then no no yes yes exactly and then you hit on the snare on the every fourth well what you can do then is that on every
00:17:54| fourth you don't hit and you wait till every sixteenth and then you'd be playing at 20 beats per minute so you pretend hit and not do it pretend it not do it pretend to do it that's a lot of
00:18:06| not doing Shh pendant not do it tended not do it pretend to do it really do it and as I'm hitting the really do it I'm actually hitting 20 beats per minute but honestly
00:18:21| I'm just I'm counting at 80 beats per minute is the idea yeah that was actually a great example when he was like I got completely distracted when you're doing it I was like looking left
00:18:31| and right I don't know what was less huh and I'm not a music theory guy I dabble in and one of my friends is a music guy but that was maybe not 80 beats per minute so nobody come at me in the
00:18:42| comments section tell me I was way off but that's the idea behind it hmm music origins can we go there sure okay we can't pull that up right which is fun
00:18:58| I apologize I mean I it's funny I think you might recreate I don't know so lies recreated copyrights about bean with ears I thought it was early 1800 oh no no it's
00:19:12| a shit where'd it go I lost it nevermind you got it you got the stat that's fine no I actually Oh so I thought it was 1800 BC but I might have been wrong in 1500 BC okay yeah
00:19:25| fourteen earliest song ever recorded on to cuneiform in cuneiform there you go yes so they are dug these up in the it actually even had a name there were like nine clay tablets that had music
00:19:40| they must have recorded like nine or ten songs all the clay tablets were like pretty much wrecked and destroyed except one it was hewn our Ian Curie in him number six what's kind of interesting is
00:19:54| it was Anatolian in origin they were shipped over to Syria and they came over and they brought their music with them and uh they wrote down a cuneiform which is cool is the only reason they knew how
00:20:05| to read redo the song is it included like guitar strings individual leader strings and stuff in their instructions so they were writing it to hell down so it's not like it was a coincidence like
00:20:18| a and then this next movements and B next movements and C next move it's an a don't whatever make that song but anyway so it's like wild but they wrote it down specifically now no one knows the rests
00:20:33| and all that stuff involved so it's up to interpretation and we can't redo the instruments exactly but whoever did this and professor Richard Dunn bro I was like that's right right yeah that's me
00:20:47| they tried to retreat they try to recreate it and it was a wild like it's weird because it sounds so generic that we've heard this before it sounds like ancient music right so
00:20:59| what it is new part of it is that like the copyrights on music like we hear a lot of Mozart and things that were made like hundred years ago because I think the copyright is either 75 years or like
00:21:14| anything that is older than what have it be subject to royalties and stuff right so although let's go say something about oh it even has the sheet music for it if we want to check it out
00:21:35| and play it ourselves everybody hook it up hey I give you information just look it up guys but this is a like a one instrument type of deal right or is it multiple no it's a
00:21:44| gummy this is definitely stringed instrument know what it is it might be a Lear it some kind I hear that there's like strumming going on and then I'll skip forward to the end here because
00:21:55| it's five and a half minutes long which where do you think they played it like it's not a concert do you think I was just like a party and they would have like the rich people would have a party
00:22:04| and like look we have something called music it check out this music I have now yeah yeah the one who try saw was like these three Egyptian women playing different instruments so I assumed that
00:22:18| there was like client meant and men actually played it let's not get crazy although who knows power back then right no but you get back I'm just saying that stone tablet looked kind of hot
00:22:32| interesting so two things that you might find interesting this is we're just talking about slow music they're actually working on the slowest piece of music ever played it's
00:22:43| actually still in process right now it's John Cage's he not the Mortal Kombat guy I know we all wish it was it's called organ to ASL SP it's his piece that um he wrote rewrote we worked
00:22:59| reworked and they slow it down so they've actually slowed it down and they started this in 2001 he died but he kept slowing down his music more and more to like take up like hours at a time 39
00:23:12| hours for a performance and he told everyone just play slower while you were doing the whole thing so it'll be like they've done something as soon as he died the day he died or an anniversary
00:23:27| anniversary they did the long plan um in 2001 they did the rest it was a measure of rest like right before you play ever Lenin Rises you get ready to play mm-hmm well that rest lasted two
00:23:40| years and they it's a special organ in I want to say London but I could be wrong they hold down one note in 2003 I don't know what note it is February 5th 2003 that's when the first note started and
00:23:54| that note will be held down for two more years continuously you note will play yes Wow awesome and then a new note will play two years later and they have it all dated out the
00:24:04| piece will end may 9 2013 7 up now we're on all these note changes there's only like I want to say a couple 100 or 100 whatever it is they're all planned out and you know when they're gonna happen
00:24:19| more and more people start going to this event they all for the note change yes for the note team sounds like the wildest thing I ever heard and who knows if they'll finish it I mean if if that
00:24:33| building collapsed what would they do it's over right don't know maybe they'll rebuild it in time to change the note yeah but it's still they would have lost the note yeah yeah so would they have to
00:24:46| transport it somewhere like 18 men get in there it's the buildings on fire coxswain or whatever he's a little tiny fact that he's holding it for like a day just falling asleep someone's hitting
00:24:58| them constantly anyway it's a real thing it's probably worth checking out if you're into really slow music another cool you would like more is Jenn finer from London she's doing what's called
00:25:19| long play long player it's a 20 minute long piece on piano that she wrote it's real song actually I don't know if she wrote it or he gem finer sound like a one diminish could be meant I'm not
00:25:34| you're talking please do a long player anyway um they made an algorithm that'll keep spitting out a new version of the song and you can
00:25:45| continuously play it it will be continuously played from now for a thousand years without repeating it hasn't been done but it's in the process and it's not slow notes it's actually
00:25:56| playing music continuously we got long-player there are online check it open yeah it sounds really boring also though yeah none of these refer to him or her okay whatever Jim kleiner is
00:26:10| behind it Jim good job done yeah that's that's music I think we covered it entirely we talked about everything that's doing music we're done I can suddenly yeah I'm good Jeremy mash Jem
00:26:27| finer it subdued oh ok was one of the founding members of the pogues the pogs box folks I just wanted to correct you I have no idea Celtic punk band okay alright whatever
00:26:42| Jim so um I read an article and all that is interesting 2017 sounds like a kind of a BuzzFeed type website guy all over the place so I don't know 100 sensitive elyda tea but actually sounded like they
00:26:55| did their research pretty good 5 facts about music which are kind of cool kind of we don't know they had scientific explanations I might have you stop reading and reading this goosebumps you
00:27:10| know you get goosebumps when you listen to certain someone huh yeah a certain you got a pitch it's not a pitch because you could recreate that pitch it wouldn't happen outside of that song
00:27:18| outside the song that's a it depends on the previous notes that are played yeah so what it is it's um it's it's called free song I don't know if that's a german term or something sounds like
00:27:29| it's me it has to do with the connective fibers that are on between your auditory contact cortex and your anterior insular cortex apparently the stronger the connection
00:27:40| between those two they think it has to do with predicting what's coming next not really knowing pretending to be surprised but an elated surprise you're like oh oh it's beautiful it's you know
00:27:51| so that's why it usually happens it like the climax of a song or something you're like even though you really heard that song before you can predict it but your brain
00:28:01| tricks itself sometimes we listen to goosebumps hi that's what they think again this is from always interesting I could be tirely off but it makes sense and it did
00:28:11| mention the auditory cortex anterior insular cortex connection which I believe yeah it's all on a scientific sounding words the aesthetic chill is the free song RI sson yes correct
00:28:26| hmm what nationality is it is a journey was I correct a French term actually damn the fridge it is interesting to watch like a like an x-factor or whatever American Idol and certain ones
00:28:41| actually cause goose bumps between like I'm not amongst all of the different judges so there's a definitive goose-bumpy song so part of that though is on built into the human vanity of the
00:28:55| situation you hear their story rags to riches stuff cares it was a paper boy do care a little bit back Australian who only had a piano what about like a homeless person who lost his family and
00:29:07| he's singing it's like a super opera song and he looks like trash but then he's like oh you probably saw their side it's amazing that a sound can cause such an emotional reaction that's what music
00:29:22| is isn't it even sound like Italian opera like you're singing words that you don't even know like any different record emption oh you're right yeah those alien ladies was saying about
00:29:32| things we don't even know I forgot I was going to butcher it even worse if I can I can't remember now that you butchered it so bad I'd like to think they were talking about freedom something beyond
00:29:42| these walls yeah there you go but maybe they were talking about sex in the showers I don't know a soap-on-a-rope anyway nope moving on to number two fact about music as an exploration earworms
00:29:59| there's some reason we get catchy songs cotton that's called an ear one and their hilts hair worm okay yes there's a reason we get catchy tunes caught in our head where were they going
00:30:11| without ever knowing the way you get that baby shark anyway there's a reason it's because um even if you don't want that song in there there's a pleasure gratification reward system in your
00:30:34| brain that's present if you play minigames like clash of clans where you know you click a few things and you get a stupid reward but you love to do it anyway
00:30:43| even if it's a boring trite predictable thing you keep ding ding so what it is is they they surmise that word they surmise that these songs are usually simpler easier song there's nothing like
00:30:55| a really complex don't get a no dude you don't get an opera but in your head I play it over and over again so it's usually a simple song and your brain is me I'm predicting it
00:31:10| my brain is predicting it I got it yeah I got it right yeah like a rising pitch to it's like something that gets a little bit louder a little bit more fun exciting rewarding yeah liked it so
00:31:23| that's number two you know worms number three is the exact opposite why is a song at all or like old or like beat after a summer if it's like the song of the summer you listen
00:31:34| to it like three months later hey don't lie I was trying to think if I could listen to that right now probably not I'd be like in it mmm it's copyrighted so we can we can't you're
00:31:47| absolutely correct I hope she doesn't see this and go wow we talked about it too much give us some rights we'll do it it's similar idea over familiarity to a
00:31:57| simple song will result in it's losing its luster because it's so pricked about you stop rewarding yourself for it it's like yeah we yeah yeah you know it's no longer all coming back to me now I don't
00:32:11| know that one might be there some of it coming back to mm-hmm I think there are moments of light right there flashes of light and moments of pure time or not I guess I
00:32:25| was gonna say you're way further than me not like yeah things we'd never do again but then they know it seemed right hmm you're gonna love this next back okay hit it
00:32:38| what shapes our music tastes mm music they give us value so they um scientists did a study on this they asked all these people to rank these two piano pieces one was like I almost do it or they told
00:32:59| the slam the keyboard one was like a master pianist when the person listened to the two they told them sometimes the truth sometimes the opposite sometimes the truth sometimes the opposite almost
00:33:10| always regardless of whether it was a homeless guy slamming piano with his elbow and his Peter they always chose the master penis sound better they were like oh we love that one Alton sounds so
00:33:19| much better even when they were wrong the reason I just think that is we have a perceived value on a thing now when you fast forward to when we grow up and stuff a perceived value is like our
00:33:31| friend it's like it people our age group like it this is like good like this is a small game the Somali a is a person who knows really like about wine wine yeah yeah sure comes up to you so this is a
00:33:42| finest one we've ever served here it costs X amount of dollars that you can't afford but you're gonna drink it anyway and you're going to love it and they love it because they spent so much money
00:33:49| on it and then you get those guys in the back room with a wine test that has a thousand-dollar bottle wine a $10 bottle of wine and they can't tell what it is made of terms for people that are to
00:34:03| fancies or know what's good and what's not well you'll love that it was value based so we love value here and uh yeah music so I guess I mean don't know who so well
00:34:14| that's the first thing that you try to figure out about a piece of music right is that who is playing this you try to clear and I'm going more with the other way who else likes this do my parents
00:34:24| yes my friends like that's a value - I would love to never show yeah you know kind of I mean not maybe not intentionally like haha only fellow teens like this I will like this but in
00:34:37| the back your mind it might help influence something you know and then you listen to something enough times ten times 20 times and now you kind of like it because you can predict it
00:34:45| you can probably like most music if you get into it we're like I can't get into grindcore I'm not a big early hip-hop guy I got to do stuff now but like if you get into the scene you probably
00:34:58| enjoy most music imagine so there's that stat about older people that well they get like ALS really gets some sort of like brain damaging disease and then they can't do very much of anything they
00:35:09| can't recall anybody they can't form new memories they don't really make friends and the last thing that generally goes is music so if you play a song they can remember memories moments I'm just doing
00:35:27| like a really old time use on the phonograph like and you'd have to put the record on and it would spin and she'd be like remember me from the movie called Coco I think if she wasn't good
00:35:47| that that was better it was actually really good one well thank you you have a budget I think he did actually they make all the good character set buttons I don't know who noticed that me yeah I
00:35:58| think I'm doing it wrong but they haven't seen it okay let's see that again but yeah they they did that against older people who didn't have any memory of anything else and they could
00:36:07| recall things based on music because music starts hitting the different areas of your brain I think it was called what Broca's Ranas area that's an area that's connected to speech as well as broke no
00:36:20| it's broke up it's broken I call program wait I could be wrong you were right there's a no in there Broc a hmm but anyway um there's also an interesting point you touched on I wasn't gonna go
00:36:33| here yet but no let's talk about how music helps how can someone sing a song and not stutter but not be able to talk you're not Sutter I was like king speech like that he doesn't know how to say it
00:36:46| the words individually but when he sings them out loud he can flow through the speech it doesn't make any sense you're saying more you're making more sound to sing than to talk
00:36:56| you're literally adding things to talking and you can do it I guess you're requiring requiring yourself to match a tempo to hit something with a fluid flow so you're
00:37:07| making more rules you have to live up to more rules is that what you're telling me maybe it's taking him that idea it's taking up that stream of consciousness that is disrupting what you're trying to
00:37:18| think of that could be so in other words your consciousness is what's ruining speech maybe maybe your focus too much on it and the song lets you break your stream of thought that is destroying
00:37:29| your your should you have too much going on you can't think about the word itself you're busy thinking of the melody you're thinking of the timing you're thinking of the pitch singing you're
00:37:36| already thinking the next line and refrain you know time to be like today Junior yeah mm-hmm mm-hmm it's interesting maybe I also think they've been using music therapy for a lot of
00:37:50| kids that won't speak on time people recovering from strokes music is like the go-to thing it's like it's super innate we discussed that in the beginning but it is yeah I surmise not
00:38:03| on pandered and on tanner nick surmise it's the sixth sense not seeing dead people not the movie by a million that music is actually sense unto itself I would argue because every sense is tied
00:38:18| very strongly to memory right yeah if you smell something from Grandma's house when you grew up and 40 years later you haven't smelled that since and you smell it oh you'll remember the house that the
00:38:32| colors like the the floor like if you smell that exact smell whatever it is the recall operating of some kind of it's a total recall total recall there's always a yeah and I think music shows
00:38:47| that exact sign it's not just it's not just sound it's it's tied to emotion it's it's maybe it's touching sound but it's not white sound it's not quite Louise so
00:38:57| this is president this is president every day because I have a son who's about four months old and if you talk to him he'll get a little bit laugh at you but if you do
00:39:06| like a little and then like you know do like a little bit except serenade he loves him but he yeah he loves it he's completely in tune with it you could tell that there's like a resonance there
00:39:22| there's a feedback and he somehow even though he was saying what the words are he loves it you know yeah I'm sure you know that with your own son yeah musicality into it's a sixth sense I'm
00:39:32| calling it I'm telling everyone it helps with recall it helps with building up the other senses you can have it when you can't hear which is interesting right
00:39:41| deaf people know what music is they can enjoy music yeah so there's a the deaf people usually enjoy the heavier beats the beat would be a rhythm right there's you can feel it with your body I can
00:39:50| feel it yeah I think if you crank some monitors up at them loud enough in a chair you could probably get more sounds only because loud enough the sound would probably you could probably feel maybe
00:40:04| not the high highs but you could probably feel more than just the bass in the drum you could probably start to feel I'm surprised I didn't do an experiment on this like if you could put
00:40:13| frequencies in different areas of the body like if your fingertips were different frequencies and you hit them with different you know at the same time but with like a song like your index
00:40:22| finger was like low notes and like your pinky finger was like high notes you could feel the song through your hands so we so we never discussed the most basic part and I didn't write it down at
00:40:32| all of music that you intake it through your ears usually and all the same time it's like the texture of music but just the physical property so it hits your ears in vibrates your ears because your
00:40:46| inner ear canal it's the famous the hammer and the piston and aneisa yeah you are making this up hammer this diamond I thought you were going to do it without looking so there's the hope
00:40:58| with the ear drum which is the the outer portion which is total and that resonates with a hammer of sorts at in something in a still hanok membrane and then it's you know you
00:41:10| don't have any of this to pentanone oh I don't know what that membrane is the tympanic one is the one that vibrates so then it hit your eardrum and goes middle ear inner ear and then goes through some
00:41:20| tube so there's there's no there's what three parts and Vil I say that's okay yeah hammer and bill stirrup start stapes is the yeah the malleus incus and stapes and then as this is all going so
00:41:40| literally we're just transferring vibrations from one weird thing to another weird thing to hitting something at a certain speed that you just yeah recorded and then it goes to the cochlea
00:41:49| is that's a little thing with the little tiny hairs oh yeah yeah so it's like it it's like almost like a seashell like it's circular and it starts to shrink as it curves in and in and then there's
00:41:58| hairs inside there that vibrate and then change your your I guess it's your all audible area so it's like it's it's a vibration that goes through like there's like a I think there's a liquid in there
00:42:11| too that like vibrates down with the nerves nerves and then the nerves pick it up is electoral some stimuli right and then the electro Simmons goes to the auditory corner of it we're done and
00:42:21| that goes to your brain your brain is like well I just got so much information let's unpack with you yeah and actually get personal here so my wife has a hearing loss that involves the auditory
00:42:32| nerve being I guess it's neuropathy so like their nerve dies so all the other stuff works yeah all the other stuff works so it's kind of a weird 'no swear she can she could pick up different
00:42:45| noises but it wouldn't it would be like garbled because of the nerve doesn't transmit the founder yeah but there are cochlear implants which take a digital signal and then send it beyond the nerve
00:42:56| so it's directly a plain animal brain which is kind of like yeah it's like well if you were listening to like a video game from like a long time ago like a Nintendo game it gets ended of
00:43:09| one 16 bits or whatever bits have remained bits the noises they could bring it back yeah and I think everyone should listen to that because if you listen to a sound an
00:43:19| what people are saying and that's exactly what if you got words yeah that's interesting but they have different versions so they did up you know from 8-bit 16-bit and they kept
00:43:28| going and going and going until people can can make out words pretty clearly if it's all working properly do you don't have a bit number on that I was just really curious I don't think they got up
00:43:40| to 64 bit I think they got it for like Santoli like way higher to distinguish all that but no no no no I think even our episodes are think they're 32 bit when we release them so like at a
00:43:57| certain point it's again it's the value-oriented oh it's 64 bit is the best it's like that doesn't matter because you can't discern the difference 16 the lossless
00:44:12| audio so if there's anything that hits me in the beginning now yeah I'm just curious thank you didn't know that no no just try something else in here but I'll miss
00:44:27| it hey that's okay that's cool and we're gonna come back to something like this yeah yeah you can talk about people who can't perceive music so yeah we're I mean warning the subject area my grandma
00:44:41| my grandmother was deaf she's the baby says all the time we would play tricks on her not tricks but like like we limit me me and my sister would always be like yelling I'm gonna do something bad the
00:44:53| same she could hear but like she could tell if we were yelling definitely good and we would stomp on the floor to get her attention she had her lights eyes just wild now I think I'm just
00:45:03| remembering a whole bunch of stuff her phone was uh hooked up to the light to now so they're all blank no click yeah TTY machine yeah yeah all my stuff is pain in the ass it is I think the only
00:45:16| ingredient because the world is based on your five senses yeah we had expenses yeah doorbell lights would flicker that's why we have dogs the dogs will alert her I didn't know that's pretty
00:45:28| see ya what you sell the clicker now the flickers pain the ass so that you just rely on the dogs I'm work plus I'm here most of the time and then captioning everything is captioning yeah I mean I
00:45:39| that's not a big deal I I grew up with that that was on every TV and it it's funny you so different programs have different captioners and different ones are different grades of good different
00:45:49| grades of slow different grades to spell everything wrong the funniest are the ones that spell something wrong take and he's back back he's going back Oh another fumble and then the person like
00:45:59| I already talked about the next subject and the person is like back black back flat and then the person like stops did you see the back station did you do 9 times didn't they fix it back and then
00:46:09| sometimes people stop like they see the mistake it's that they keep going or like who cared I have guys just juggle off that's pretty funny yeah but um so there are people not like cuz deaf
00:46:19| people can dance my grandmother could dance well she's good at it probably not good but I mean think of it 90% of dancing is hearing the bass-heavy yes yeah and going with
00:46:30| them I mean you're not called by the guitar solo or anything you're not dancing to that so you're dancing to the lowest notes so what there are people who can hear can hear and also they just
00:46:41| they can't dance they can't so there's two different types there's one where you can't distinguish the pitch so a song will generally like vary between very tight pitches and there are certain
00:46:52| people that just can't hear the difference in pitches so they'll be listening to a song it'll sound like the same note over and over again so they don't know when the change in pitch is
00:47:02| happening so when you're at a high school dance and there's someone that says they can't dance maybe they really can't dance it's maybe they're not socially awkward maybe they just don't
00:47:13| hear music the way you do that's possible but I think rhythm is different than pitch perception ah the reason I know this the reason I know this is because I watched a video today by Carly
00:47:26| Rae Jepsen VIPRE vice haha was on Netflix I wanted to check it out and it was very misleading I thought it was about why diets never work and like why what's in our plastic and it's one of
00:47:38| the stupid things I was wasting time and it came on it was just about music I was like I didn't ask for this this is me Carly Rae Jepsen I was like no one said she was in this and she did a thing and
00:47:49| they talked about animals apparently parrots and stuff can match pitch right makes sense yeah they can match your voice so they have to be able I could hear it like whatever what they don't
00:48:02| understand is on different timbre they can't go hard or soft they don't really understand tempo they can just do a constant beat where they move and a constant time
00:48:14| they also found with apes and stuff that um you can teach them rhythm but they don't naturally have it they have to they're just timing something mm-hmm they also are horrible pitch there's
00:48:27| something like whales like whales sing what they're giving birth or whatever we have different pitches and everything but yeah and they someone said that they do have rhythm it's much slower than
00:48:35| ours but it's not really regardless they can't find an animal that contains pitch rhythm dynamics and timbre like just none of them have it so it's weird that humans are the only ones who have all
00:48:48| all of names caja I was like yep like a parakeet it's ringing what it does a metal hey Bob it's a badass parrot so like a parakeet maybe is from like the kilohertz and a human being is like 20
00:49:11| to 20,000 Hertz so a parakeet can't hear all of the frequencies that a human being can hear wait he can make the sounds I hear them he can't there might be a different he can't hear all of the
00:49:21| sounds that we can hear how humans range is much larger in their markets is range always the same that you can make and you can hear I'm not sure that you would make a sound if you couldn't perceive it
00:49:35| in hearing no no but I would imagine you could hear more than you could make because your vocal cords might be limited but your ears wouldn't numb just imagine I think it would be the reverse
00:49:44| actually you think you could hear less than you can I think you would accidentally make extra noises whereas you can't perceive as many noises of you as you can hear well I I don't know
00:49:55| I don't know how high the human vocal cords can get what are we at on six octaves I have no idea it's eight we're not a doubt if that's too much six vocal range this is gonna be difficult to find
00:50:09| in the ten seconds that you gave me none of my stuff I got in to really talk about like dog whistles like we can't hear a dog whistle no I but we can how about um dog
00:50:28| whistles there's stuff that we can actually be hit with it is a sound will vibrate our ear and just too high we can't register it it's like yeah above twenty kilohertz like dogs I think in
00:50:42| here it was like 65 kilohertz dog that's why I dog whistle you blow it and a dog it's annoying stomp stomp and you're like I can't hear anything real high-pitched sounds um for
00:50:57| a while they thought there might be damaging but really ultimately it breaks down to how loud the body that's now close to your ear drop it is so most of the time it's not actually dangerous um
00:51:09| I came across something sinister and the opposite did you come across sounds under 20 Hertz and what they can do to even beings so it's the same thing with electronics so like the lower frequency
00:51:23| has more power it doesn't attenuate as quickly attenuation is like the loss of power over a distance so like really high frequency sounds don't puncture through right right they have to be
00:51:33| closed and be closed your ear yeah extend that hurt you damnit it's a lot of energy but it's it's using really quick hello or frequency can can go over far their distance much farther and
00:51:45| still retain its power um they think that it's called infrasound it sounds below 20 Hertz usually 20 to 7 Hertz that may affect human blood pressure fear nausea and dizziness there are no
00:52:03| laws in place right now but uh they're finding that some workplaces that are to overcrowd like a place that has like millions of employees or thousands of people in an
00:52:11| office chances are they could have a piece of heavy equipment in there whether it's an air conditioning unit something else that's not secured properly and it's producing sound waves
00:52:22| at seven Hertz people are complaining of being fatigued donkey noise margin busy whatever this came into play especially I want to say four to six months ago when the US diplomats in China and Cuba
00:52:39| well that was debunked right I think I couldn't find anything well I read a story that I mean I heard from an expert that it was debunked I don't know who your expert is because I googled it
00:52:51| tonight and I was like let's see what really happened and we just articles from June hmm all the articles were in June every one of them and it was like you know you're an ad and diplomats
00:53:01| pulled out and it was apparently people were getting sick and they they don't know why like something was so that depends on the decibels right like you're talking about of certain
00:53:10| frequency at a certain decibel we didn't really talk about like what decibels we hear normally so there's the softest sound you can hear is zero zero decibels a whisper is around maybe 20 decibels
00:53:23| range in 120 it's good enough to get it right jet engine it depends on the engine I guess it's up to auto let me let me work my way up rain falls back yeah speech is about 60 really a washing
00:53:39| machine 75 City traffic is about 85 so at 85 they start talking about hello your exposure yeah so if you're constantly exposed to city drive about eight hours a day you're at a threshold
00:53:53| where you can be damaged by it you can start to lose your hearing noise pollution quite literally mm-hmm exactly I lived on harvestin Avenue it was a six-lane highway that led to 95 and it
00:54:05| was like you could hear stuff all night all day I only lived there for like nine months but it was it was a different experience did you have any ambulances going by
00:54:15| cuz they're like 120 DB and 120 DB it's not if you're right next to it that's not good you can all my listen to that for maybe 30 seconds before you start to have damage
00:54:26| we got to crazy because I used to run alongside ambulances at full speed and I was a quick kid so sometimes would be a minute before I lost them no I've heard plenty maybe on says goodbye but I
00:54:37| wasn't hanging out with them interesting so wait our ambulance workers in danger not weird we just crack open the case yeah I think is that a profession there they lose their hearing quickly please I
00:54:54| don't know it's a good question I will go back to dancing though so okay so the fifth fact on my page I started 20 minutes ago yes is why we dance but we hear music and sometimes we can't stop
00:55:11| it can't stop the music huh hmm why do those dance dance content's if you want to because I our mind is mapping out the beats in mapping out the beats they actually do it physically as well as
00:55:27| psychologically so we're hearing the beats we're predicting the beats that's the beauty of your brain it's always predicting well it's predicting them physically too so you're almost or
00:55:38| you're generally words their biology on our hand yeah I mean you're just using a body part don't have to be you're not drumming it's not like you're like Oakland the boost Rome with one foot
00:55:46| you're just predicting a beat coming with your hand good foot it could be with your fingers for this come here this but anyway you start predicting it and actually extra blood they find uh
00:55:58| works its way to like your legs your arms make sure fields if you're feeling good dopamine coming out here it's coming out to your ends makes you feel good your reward center for hitting the
00:56:08| beats on time actually it plays important role in that so like you hit them your brain feels good even if you're not like conscious of you're like damn I'm good and then it compels us to
00:56:20| it's a feedback loop so now you're you're in it and now you're like yeah yeah what you got on dancin dancin fool it's like I'm dancing on the battlefield of love and gonna murder y'all with my
00:56:34| beats my moves tell us what that's a reference to so I guess when I was younger I was always afraid to dance I don't know it may be an introvert and I never got out there
00:56:45| to just like just enjoy myself and just ignore what people thought of me because I guess that's how introverts think they always think people are looking at them rather than but you always good vibes
00:56:54| out bad vibes in judging yeah yeah but at some point that changed so I started like a weddings I love weddings now everybody did you dance at your wedding I most certainly did thank you no I was
00:57:06| drinking at your wedding no no yeah yeah it's anybody out there that's like worried about it I mean just let go just forget about all the bullshit that you might be holding up about just let
00:57:20| go dance on the battlefield with love interesting you say that and interesting you had this exact sentence I don't want a copy on pandered end uh-huh I never wanted to dance I was nervous I
00:57:31| was a nerd and eighth-grade and stuff but whatever when I started on seventh grade I was like five ninth grade changed when I started playing music in ninth grade baek's actually my sense of
00:57:46| rhythm changed it became internalized I know that sounds overhyped but it really did I think I could just I was confident enough that I could play an open time and learning things and do some playing
00:57:59| in time yeah I host like every foot feel it the one yeah the one step but literally then you start feeling it and once you can feel a beat then you don't lose it you especially if you're
00:58:12| practicing a bunch or you're doing stuff like did you feel music you can't lose it if you're counting out loud like I used to think that's how people dance they would be like moving my right hand
00:58:21| moving my left hand moving my right no yeah like doing the wall yeah like two triangles you're trying to move into yeah and one two three challenge me like that was my idea
00:58:32| dancing and terrible nose and I was like come on Camille it's not a just like a hundred percent feel it awesome can't screw up yeah you do it and I am will copy on Penn and NSA I love weddings I
00:58:46| love dancing like hell at every wedding - I make a scene I have a good time that's the older women think I'm a great dancer really I'm just an okay dancer it's the it's the essence of the
00:59:00| personality seeping out right there mmm-hmm I will say my wife since she can't hear the beat very well she only guess which was it that also overcomes well she's okay
00:59:17| she's kind of good okay maybe good for what she is you know I'll give it to her but I feel like no and what if she was better in you're holding her back to it you're holding her to a lower standard
00:59:28| because you think yeah I don't know but it also made me realize that like there are people out there that are disadvantaged in certain ways like they have the Museu they can't listen the
00:59:41| pitch they also have like beat deafness so they can't actually hear what the beat is be definite real by the way it is 4% of people have it the same thing with the pitch
00:59:50| yes 4% which is a large number of people that's a lot of people is it all one in one countries like Germany and just the country Germany is bad at others I don't know if they include older people who
01:00:00| can't hear anything but that might affect things it does affect all I does but having to dance with my wife who doesn't hear music in any way that I do it teaches me that like you have to
01:00:14| enjoy yourself instead of like trying to match what someone else is doing and maybe you like you do your own thing and then come back to that person and make sure they're not you know they're not
01:00:23| lonely over there but then you do your own thing so you have to figure it out you have to make your own music make your own moves me and my girlfriend who I sometimes
01:00:33| hate sometimes love oh yeah it would sing at weddings were Reid ants to toto by Africa and we do like an elaborate dancing how wow this is in a movie the tango and it involves like lifts and
01:00:45| like spins and like wow like rotting product ritualistic moves and we do it all the time but we've never once talked about it we've never against choreographed it and it's never the same
01:00:57| ever and I'd say 90% of it probably looks like we do it time 10% of time we probably miss eggs a little bit who knows late it's so weird I forgot
01:01:08| about that and a shout-out her I don't camera shot ever on this project yes so I will Toto buy Africa okay oh maybe not the reason Virgin although knows you know
01:01:20| was a good version you've heard it right I hope you guys get married so I can just turn about yeah that by week Dakota by our Weezer by Weezer no I thought it was the band
01:01:38| was Africa Toto is the know is it Africa by Weezer I guess it is Africa by Toto by Weezer so it's Africa by toto okay cool so this leads us to our next area which is called the dancing plague of
01:01:59| Piper what why do you say that that's weird I never heard the Pied Piper involved with this but I'll read you the excerpt I own my video clicked it or what's the word hole were you uh a
01:02:12| screen shot thank you homeboy in July been part of Holy Roman Empire were struck by a sudden and seemingly uncontrollable urge to dance the hysteria kicked off when a woman known
01:02:30| as Frau Trofeo stepped into the street and began to silently twist twirl and shake she kept up her solo dances on for nearly a week and before long some three dozen other stress bourgeois had joined
01:02:46| in by August the dancing epidemic had claimed as many as four hundred victims with no other explanation for the phenomenon local physicians blamed it on hot blood make sense of majestic the
01:03:00| afflicted simple gyrate the fever oh this is justice yeah the afflicted simply gyrate the fever away stage was constructed and professional dancers were brought in the town even hired
01:03:14| provide backing music but it wasn't long before the marathon started to take its toll they danced from sheer exhaustion and some died from strokes I didn't copy the rest of that page but like four
01:03:26| hundred people died from dancing and no one knows what started it and I said I think that's the most ridiculous thing I've heard I don't know I just want to dance for a week straight until I die
01:03:36| like do you think she stopped the poop eat sleep I have no idea oh man hey they came up with a drug that's probably like they invented in a drug that was one of the so I went on a
01:03:49| tangent here we're like they started talking about sonic booms this is sorry I'm gonna come back to this Pied Piper never mind me so sonic booms so like when a plane hits Mach 1 the like sonic
01:04:03| needed one once it's out of line the ASBO sound it's just like seven something which does be descent I want to say it's seven get rid of down 60 something like one speed sound anyway
01:04:17| the speed of sound 17 miles per hour oh that's it yeah so they they did a test in I think it was like Oklahoma City where they had multiple planes hitting Mach 1 and the boom that's
01:04:32| created the sonic boom is when the sound waves cannot move faster than the plane so there's a what I didn't know is that when it hits a sonic boom and goes faster than 717 Mach 1 it has a
01:04:46| continuous boom and that boom just keeps going with the plane they did an experiment where every every day they would do like six or seven sets of sonic booms and it would like break windows
01:04:59| and crack mortar and stuff and build links so people complained it also led me on a trail that fed into drugs so they did so I'm assuming that this this dance-a-thon was probably started by the
01:05:13| german town inventing some sort of drug probably like an ecstasy like drug where they just wanted to dance that's it yeah and the CIA had like MKULTRA MKULTRA was like they started
01:05:25| testing LSD and various drugs on people to see what their reactions were yeah yeah yeah those are the government yeah project and we'll talk about this in a later episode because it was really
01:05:36| fascinating what the government has done to people and it's awful well interesting you brought that up leads to our next subject it does gainer truly does that's a smart cookie mmm has
01:05:54| anyone ever heard of uh trying to pronounce this classical era narrow matter a large Meyer Juna she's Arjuna ah what all right that doesn't matter Oona anyway apparently um it's become
01:06:11| closely associated with music which are energy women music so maybe it affects our senses and our sixth sense music is affected by it so a lot of stoners say music sounds better hey man have you
01:06:26| ever listened to it on weed yeah they lean in and you're like come on dude I I get you I'm a scientist I have a job I have a kid I don't do that kind of stuff so I did a little research of my own
01:06:38| okay and I googled it I don't know where my thought I was going we're not investigatory journalists here go around running ruining people's lives and mint acting funny yeah bloody did no matter
01:06:53| who they cared because I'm an investigatory journalist how many people I live bloody so um in the United States at least I don't know about elsewhere jazz music in the 20th century became
01:07:08| like synonymous with marijuana um I didn't realize this because I realized that I didn't realize how old school was so Dizzy Gillespie and like Louie Armstrong they're like Louie Armstrong
01:07:21| like the trumpet guy oh yeah but like that's like real old school he like makes Miles Davis look old or young I said that wrong but like he's one of those old guys I'm like I he's one of
01:07:33| those old school guys playing the trumpet apparently like these guys were big in the weed that was their thing they were like we do this all the time it helps us play
01:07:41| our music performance-enhancing drugs a little bit the one of the girls from Fleetwood Mac I was a singer long yoga players said that it'd be working on a song for three hours and then they would
01:07:55| listen to it again after hitting the weed and then you'd be nailing a whole different song movie I'm not sure I'm not sure if it was teamed it with maybe no
01:08:04| I know who they are I don't know which one it was it was just a quote for someone I'm just even a female possibilities thank you I just learned a baseline to know the other one break the
01:08:20| chain I was learning that while we were setting up do just the bass is playing a shout out to least row if you've seen that video of her doing uh I don't know there's a live loop so she plays every
01:08:47| instrument and then adds to it oh that's cool wait for what song she does a Foo Fighters song I think she does Everlong yes I did um see this in either your history or my history or maybe he said
01:08:59| Fanny Isaac I didn't see the whole thing because I was you need to look at it again and everyone and she did another one called burn which I like that's my favorite one but it's impressive to have
01:09:13| her go around and I don't know how she did actually like captures the loop and then like regurgitates it back because she does like five different she does drums bass guitar yeah it's bad a
01:09:26| process she's a badass I can sing them but I know people loop introversive do it anyway um so I did a little scientific study I was trying to figure out does not want to actually
01:09:36| affect how you listen to music or is it just the perceived thing or like is it just cool to say it apparently they think that marijuana does one of four things it expands your timing
01:09:51| so someone who experiences 15 seconds of real-time thinks that are experiencing sixteen point five seven don't ask me where they came up these goddamn number three 2014 article I don't see me
01:10:05| thinking slower faster hey about sixteen point five seven seconds go by for every fourteen or seconds slightly faster okay right now your your brains moving faster but everything else is moving slow so
01:10:22| you get some sort of like syncopation you get some kind of okay so there's a weird there's more time to think inside your own head that's why people become people's get over Blanton all supposedly
01:10:38| what we've heard anyway it's called expanded timing so your mind's eye becomes faster your consciousness is faster but everything else seems slower really it's probably everything slowing
01:10:51| down your mind's eye staying the same but we won't get into that it also is a product of relaxation so you're not really paying attention to external stimuli you're literally paying
01:11:01| attention to the music because who gives a damn dude your attention oh I just that came with relaxation I combined both good job me next we have what I've summed up with all three of these is
01:11:18| called a shorter here present moment you're here moment becomes actually shorter like we mentioned earlier a present moment and listening to music is like three to eight seconds or two to
01:11:30| four seconds short memorable person may be on marijuana short-term memory is even shorter mmm because like I said that brain is moving quicker so two seconds to them is really
01:11:40| one second so three seconds of memory is really like 1.5 seconds okay so now they're looking at a 1.5 second window of music basically we're playing five seconds not a lot no it makes it
01:11:53| slower makes everything seem like man I've been waiting forever for the refrain when's it coming Oh Pam makes it oh shit look at the chorus
01:12:04| it's still coming oh oh they're gonna use the same notes oh my god that's crazy and then you're like this you're like wait the bass is still doing it the guitarist
01:12:14| is on it the drummer changed up this chorus move dude that's bad so you're more in it but also it is slower to your brain like it seems slower so you have more time to look at it more time to
01:12:30| focus on it and more kind of to think about it so you're looking at it and you're like dude I never realized how tasty that bass lick is it's like what cuz usually it's song goes by much
01:12:42| quicker someone who may have partaken in marijuana can attest to this feeling it's a feeling of slower like a drop of water ooh you can feel it drop if you were
01:12:55| sober and I dropped what happened you'd be like that water just dropped that was annoying it's over when you listen to a song sober usually it kind of goes by the steady beat or rhythm you can
01:13:05| predict at all when you're under the influence of THC especially a lot of it it's wild because everything slower so everything's bigger everything's happening wilder you're paying more
01:13:18| attention to it you're not even looking at the outside world you're looking at this thing like what holy crap they're playing clocks in the back of Pink Floyd or the Coxes doing hair like you have
01:13:31| more time to ask all these questions and you're kind of stupider I will say hmm but it is very mystical is the scientific explanation I can give everything seemed slower to a person on
01:13:44| th say and I will say it rent a story about two guys who got into a Ford Escort went behind an area made a mix CD it was snowing and they turn on a CD that they labeled good and it has Led
01:14:03| Zeppelin dazed and confused and they listen to it stoned out of their minds behind a Guitar Center actually and it was wild you can see snowflakes falling snow er slower and slower an
01:14:19| hour you can hear the bass notes playing like individuals you can see everything coming together slower you can feel the refrain coming back like five minutes away you could almost see it coming you
01:14:34| could just it was probably wild for those individuals I've had many two of you would call my movies I read that were about that being
01:14:44| entranced by the music come hundred percent you're very in it you're also wander like I was just mentioning a hundred percent attentive so I'll bring him back to percent okay I'll bring back
01:14:54| to the Pied Piper of Hamelin so they had that what the Pied Piper was supposed to be able to like there I think there was like a rat infestation and the Pied Piper could bring out the rats but he in
01:15:05| return he asked for children like he would also Pied Piper the children out of the doubt I did not hear this this I mean this is coming from my very poor memory of and also no good I I mean I I
01:15:19| never took the darkness of the Pied Piper to conciliation that's but I mean they they tied in the music musicality of the Pied Piper and the like the power of music into children disappearing
01:15:31| which and I think of reality is children being maybe like catching a disease or like the industrialization of Germany at the time I think there was like little work in the town so children left so
01:15:44| they're tying it back to someone who's so musically adept that they could lure people away which also feeds into like sirens like sailors on the sea they always said like the sirens had this
01:15:57| song that would lure them into the waters and seduced them essentially they get men what men would dive to their deaths to go towards the sound knowing they were dying they had to get they're
01:16:09| compelled so are you saying are you tying that into nowadays and like being so drawn to music or something but like you ruin your life for it or like your Bieber fan 400 and yeah everywhere I
01:16:24| don't know there you go something yeah I'm talking about some of that be like so entrancing so alluring that you would get sucked into it and music it's one of those
01:16:33| things that you know babies hear when they're real little maybe you still have that essence that if you hear a song that can suck you in and get stuck by it and you get lured into whatever trap it
01:16:45| is that's how I like to finish it here's a quick question for you do you uh you still listen to music like Eastover no 30s the definition of life like I used to is that's what that I
01:17:01| mean very few songs are brand new to me regurgitation how many beats how many possibilities of songs are there I mean there's infinite but there's some that sound a lot like previous ones and pop
01:17:16| songs tend to do that quite a lot I don't disagree so four chords that made a million listen to that's a that's a great song that's all will you listen to on your way to work
01:17:28| talk radio whatever radio talk like pop radio like what do you do I mean so I have like all the songs from my previous probably like 20 years of existence I have on one USB so there's like a pop
01:17:43| section which is lowering how big how big this isn't how many songs as eight gigs which is I don't know how many songs oh Jesus Christ I have a I have a music collection I have a problem where
01:17:54| I am I used to label my music download it legally from torrent sites and send money to the artist to make sure they were covered yeah but I would do it with discographies artists everyone I came
01:18:07| across I wasn't - was that the 240 gigabytes of music and properly labeled and properly in folders by artist and then by album and then by track order and I couldn't have a CD that was just
01:18:22| like one two hit I could never do that's why I didn't like pop music as much I needed an album I needed twelve tracks so my music that I'm talking about is my car does not take more than a cakes so I
01:18:34| have one right maybe that is a cake okay so I have a hundred and eighty three gigabytes of music that I I sliced raw eel for me nice yeah we we spliced our TVs a little
01:18:48| bit in there whose change okay yeah so I mean most of them are like maybe pop music in the middle where like it reminds me of a time frame because the radio plays it constantly and it makes
01:19:02| me think of the time where I was doing this thing other music is I think in high school I really focused on different types of bands so like Dave Matthews Band Incubus 311 all sorts of
01:19:16| things that I started when I was first listening music like EEP six or inside out inside out Metallica Everclear or Nimrod what was a Nimrod it was a great day Green Day yeah dookey dookey
01:19:34| offspring that those were the that was the impetus a I am I don't disagree listen I'm not I wasn't asking for your musical choices in general yeah I was asking about your music use so on your
01:19:46| way to work you shuffle it what do you do you listen to it to you some randomized weather traffic never listen them weather or traffic okay I don't know how about the shower you ever
01:19:58| listen to music yeah get on my blue jeans you're into it tonight there's one of my first time so I usually listen to this yeah yeah get some some dance moves in there get a little personal share
01:20:15| that was a future podcast yeah I will repeat donators of the patron I get a little fade out here no cuz I don't know what the play I would just I just wanted to grab it man we do a recap are you
01:20:29| gonna fade out do a rehab type of sigh I don't haven't plugged in so yeah frequency pitch timbre the texture of music melody rhythm tempo beats per minute
01:20:46| jazz music of the 20s the dancing plague of 1518 a proponent of us mmm US diplomats in China and Cuba getting sick from sonic weapons and the same ruler can do it on painters look at them
01:21:01| euphony and cacophony and consonance and dissonance pitch rhythm dynamics timbre beats per minute we didn't talk about the larynx at all but that's okay phonetics yeah phonation I think Kurt
01:21:17| Vonnegut Confucius say hearing loss cochlear implants deafness beat deafness and then a museu we're talking about a little bit of that by the human voice the hearing range I
01:21:31| don't know what else we're talking about did we cover anything else bass guitar drums huh guess when you drink you're uh-oh I guess folks the important thing here is
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01:22:38| I have to cut them off here good night guys yeah you're gonna have to do
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