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00:00:01| since the dawn of mankind we discovered labor we found ways of delineating that labor we found machines that made things simpler we even had women and children working
00:00:14| six days a week more complex machines we've even moved into an age where robots can do labor for us we love delineating labor but at what point are we delineating labor to
00:00:32| labor to labor will our future robots need robot Butler's join us as we discover how robots will take over so I'm Dan and I'm Nick folks for old friends dissecting one topic at a time
00:00:51| people technology media we've got it all covered each discussion here is a deep dive into our unique perspective taboo forbidden subjects they're all on the chopping block baby we don't pander to
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00:01:18| time open up your earholes [Music] mm I'm trying to catch the note I don't like I'll ever catch it but uh now we're talking automation mass production
00:01:46| bahding and new revolutions industrial revolutions tonight heck yeah my favorite one actually yeah so I wanted to something I did it all start sorry actually let's let's talk about
00:01:58| our last episodes any Corrections anyone we talked about cut off how d-types the one thing I did find was that I said something about my personality type and the female comparison so mine was like a
00:02:13| like 3% in men and like a point something percent in women so so you get another tough time yeah so the male architects have to find that one woman and then fight five other architects to
00:02:26| get her well let's think of it this way though I mean you're saying it's a small number was it less than 1% yeah yep so it's just under a billion huh good luck with that it's much lower than a billion
00:02:40| not much ups are seven so it's probably like 700 million wait we don't know let's say there's seven billion people in the world is that what we went with yes I've known
00:02:50| people and you said unless the point percent yeah plenty well you know I guess it depends on when I was the only point guard it's not 0.9 0.9 would be like over 10 percent you're bad at math
00:03:03| no point nine billion won yeah point nine percent I have no idea what you're talking about right now any calculator you want me pull out a calculator I'll do the math you do what
00:03:19| is do seven billion okay and four percent of them are architects I said three percent but three percent oh okay I thought you said four is how many people uh 210 million people okay and
00:03:37| one percent of those know it's less than that twenty five percent isn't it did you say one two every four I'm gonna use it's like one two every five okay so 20% of that now yeah yeah okay
00:03:52| so it's fine if I call it fair I'll give you the tens of millions fine you still have a lot of people to pick from look at time if I line up that many people in a room you're telling me you couldn't
00:04:04| find a mate just say money yeah somebody anyway moving on in the personality episode I said something about myself being conceited mm-hmm untrue I'm actually perfect in most categories so
00:04:20| huh and he'll work towards it I'm trying I'm trying to build something here I'd like you to join me on my campaign but anyway I also was so I was curious about like the ratio of women and like who
00:04:35| actual pairs were because it didn't really make sense and it turns out that my architect pair is perfect for a campaigner pair so horoscopes maybe your in this case magic I'm not no takes away
00:04:56| sparkle in our eyes mm-hmm and then I have this serious question mm-hmm if two t-rex's were having sex what would their arms be doing and how creepy would it be don't think as creepy
00:05:12| as we think because I'm more creeped out by what their tongues doing oh it's a huge tongue I think is probably like a slab of granite not as creeped out by the tongues or uh a hand you know I know
00:05:35| it's not that literal it's not like it's looking real like literally like this far off the arm I mean it probably looks huge compared to you already sticking out a couple feet you know yeah yeah
00:05:45| maybe I don't know like if you just had this hand correctly don't cover your base I'm pretty sure I don't see Rex I don't know making love in the weekends sauce or never in here
00:06:01| all right so let's talk about the industrial revolutions so the very first let's talk about labor it sucks right oh yes what do we do more than we do we made baskets to carry our berries
00:06:14| because do you know what they did before that yes we did they used to have to carry each berry hand by hand back to the shelter so we created something to hold more berries and that was the
00:06:26| beginning of labour delineation did you know that I did not know that look it up folks so you're saying they spent all their time gathering and eating food growing food yeah agricultural focus
00:06:40| time to do anything fun no it was all work that's terrible I mean you can look at cavemen today then just eat and Crow Creek he's talking about yourself no I was just I was just gonna say they're
00:06:55| all dead actually was mmm they're extinct future episode hmm are they really extinct if they just I guess yeah well do you know we're gonna get into this thing extinction episode but it
00:07:09| seems like you're not a hundred percent aware of this did you know there were like two to three different actually strands but yeah they pwned each other and then somehow he came out of the mix
00:07:18| take good okay no I think only one was the king good dominant they only add hominin no I forget which one Australopithecus seen no that wasn't the big one I was one of the ones that one
00:07:32| used to bang for fun stick that one in your little fact book folks and check it out australopithecine banged for fun I'm really not sure what Google will result
00:07:43| in but I don't click the images yeah that's like I fact checked you on the dolphin the an often experiment where the woman had felt like she needed to she gave it fellatio was it fellatio or
00:07:56| is it handy she didn't really specify well what did you what did you find in your research and did you image search I didn't do any image search that surgeon but they do they there was I want to say
00:08:11| is it was it was it fellating a dolphin I thought you can put your own images in there holy crap I just don't listen I know she was
00:08:20| romantically involved physically with a dolphin that was i emotionally involved though it was the dolphin was coming of age and that's how you just grow up as a dolphin you find a female scientist who
00:08:34| will take care of your needs I know what it's like neighbor moving into labor before we do have a whole episode that woman's name is Margaret how love it that's crazy
00:08:55| there's something on pattern and does that oh yeah it's like I liked it more when I didn't know her name I didn't know how old she was I had this image in my head and it was
00:09:07| like it was kind of beautiful kind of disturbing and Dan's like no actually she was 59 mm and she gave it candies on Wednesday it's like reading facts I just feel as good as when I imagine it this
00:09:26| grand waa relationship a blossoming the love between a dolphin and a woman and she's a beautiful woman in my mind maybe I'll even echo the echo location noise oh man I like all that stuff but Dan's
00:09:41| trying to ruin it by back checking too much whoa wait a second I was like oh no I don't I get it this there's footage why do we always end up here not always but okay I'm sorry we okay I'm I just
00:09:58| lay there was a folks it was there's an attractive woman doing okay and everyone that I shouldn't have looked at the images you're correct don't look at the images people that's not a good place to
00:10:07| be you'll get curious doing something you're doing like you know okay I'll have to look at these later this is anyway for research research for a future funded by NASA all right in this
00:10:27| room I guess so let's move forward let's say we're tired of making people do work everything else we find new ways of things to do work for us and see why
00:10:38| right yeah so the automation part is that you remove the human from the process so well they're not there yet Industrial Revolution started making machines that would then cut down the
00:10:47| food and store the food and give it a people and then you know you're moving along into a elijah's more 100% the reason for making machines to make work easier at this point time yes think
00:11:02| about it right yes so they kind of started triggering out that they could power things with steam and then the steam power could be manipulated to do something cyclic and circular and
00:11:11| repetitive so the innovations at the time were the textiles industry so they started making like a loom and so the production of an individual person using those technologies multiplied their
00:11:28| effectivity by about 40 to 50 times hot-diggity-dog dude textile be boomin mm-hmm so those people finally could actually make clothes and wear clothes and the
00:11:41| standard living boomed for people who were in England because that's where it originated the one stat that I found that related it to normal everyday life mm-hmm
00:11:54| there were people that were working hours and there buying food so there's a graph of hours worked to the ratio of our chicken how much food yeah how much chicken you can buy by the pound so in
00:12:08| the early 1900's this is after the Industrial Revolution but early 1900's you could buy one pound of chicken for every hour you worked okay seems reasonable
00:12:19| and if you're hungry and then by the let Ricky here you could buy about six pounds of chicken for one hour worked maybe more it's actually probably about maybe even twelve pounds of chicken it's
00:12:39| a fragile thing oh my god I said 12 that's so weird yeah it's French so it's right go to your KFC and fry up a bucket baby we're having a revolution here now a little bit this
00:12:52| depends on a facilitation of chicken yeah production right ironically enough machines used in the chicken industry made chicken cheaper mm-hmm machines in
00:13:05| all the in-betweens like transporting with chicken Michigan's gun yep everything got quicker thanks to machines so really numbers all should go that way
00:13:16| yeah dude is it to go from present time to the past you have what machines doing it you have energy to being being expended you have people who are working those machines you have transportation
00:13:27| you have cars you have roads and then you have the power facilities you have the utilities and all the infrastructure that you could never make in the industrial revolution because they just
00:13:38| started making machine tools they could actually make precise tools because then you do repetitive things over and over again so production led to production exactly it's just like minecraft baby
00:13:52| you can make that one pickaxe and then all of a sudden everything just opens up to you so now you can make three different tools and then from those tools you make three different tools
00:14:01| each and then from those you can make eight different byproducts and tools and then from those each of those you can make a subsidiary tool and it's subsidary thingy majiggy and that's a
00:14:11| technical term and who's in the jig I mean really all mannerisms of thingamabobs up here yeah and so every every thingamabobs thingamajig 'yes widgets watch my dad thing with doodle
00:14:34| he did keep talking keep talking so there was a bunch at improving techniques so we're talking about like generating energy infrastructure roads we talked about a little bit
00:14:45| mechanization something in the backseat and a blitzkrieg bop is that what that sounds a bathroom I have no idea do you remember Guitar Hero when they finally
00:15:03| unveiled more than just the guitar it was like the drama microphone the drums and there's a I think it a second guitar just would be the bass they did this while I was in college and someone
00:15:15| bought the whole set and I still remember we found out that if you said the lyrics to a song if you said any lyrics to the song in the same cadence and sort of pitch that
00:15:27| it counted as correct so Weezer say it ain't so uh who did blitzkrieg bop I don't know you so you can replace the words just like oh yeah yeah as long as you said it so say hey
00:15:42| dudes like we would just kind of make up words in a play and we discovered this on December 31st of may be like 2005 oh six got one it's one of the revolutions it was and do you know what we did we
00:15:59| played it for like five to seven straight hours drinking and I still remember this it was me be read then I still it's fine because this isn't the real names like you're gonna find be
00:16:10| read good luck but um it's one of my more memorable holidays ever um instead we had two parties to go to for New Year's Eve we stayed in and played guitar hero and made upwards of songs
00:16:26| for like eight straight hours and got blitzed trunk and I still remember those three or four songs that we unlocked because we didn't get any further and we just played them non-stop and it was so
00:16:40| much fun you know you hit unlock friendships friendship I'm sorry I derailed us dance with steam so steam was a big one that's like the thing what's next yeah well they mainly and
00:17:03| like portable so they made it so that you could actually move it places and then make it so you could build a factory around it it put out enough energy see you move tools with it it
00:17:11| replaced a lot of the manual labor that didn't make any sense I give the little children like digging in mines and stuff like moving coal around they have somebody with like a basket strapped on
00:17:21| their back and like a tiny little mind chef crawling through it it's like why wouldn't you use a minecart like have a little like train system so like this I guess I fit in heaven oh did they yeah I
00:17:32| guess we're both ways I mean you had to push it up hill and then down hill maybe should always make that and that's the other problem you're filling it downhill and then bring it back uphill so it's
00:17:41| heavier all the way back up mm-hmm that's all right all these things are kind of like playing back and forth a little bit of a symbiotic relationship and furthering technologies because then
00:17:51| you have steam and then you need heat and then you use coal and then from the coal you can generate gas so you can have light and work later longer hours with visibility and then they decided
00:18:04| they needed some oil you move on to the next revolution where you're creating things that are stronger like steel and then you move on to like electricity so you can move now and start with iron
00:18:14| there were there's iron in the beginning whooshing Tok didn't it became Steven I don't remember is that how it works cooks coke I think are you mispronouncing a word recheck your sheet
00:18:28| because I think there's a there's a trident no this is this is by memory iron coke clients mine I'm sorry iron coke is that we're talking about yeah maybe coke is a fail with high
00:18:41| carbon content with few impurities made by heating coal yeah they had like a distillery almost kind of oven for it okay so that's how they produced the gas because they could
00:18:51| could boil off of the certain things and then interesting I didn't know to ask us you remember looking at the diagram of that interesting so then we're getting more more energy we're reaching higher
00:19:06| and higher heats we're burning off more more impurities we're making it more and more condensed fuel and such to make higher and higher heats if we wanted yeah look at that
00:19:16| so people are starting to make leaps and bounds of Technology so let's move up to like the sea so like the beginning was lighting said gasps they started making glass so they made something like big
00:19:33| sheets of glass that can actually be installed in something like the Crystal Palace the Crystal Palace what on would they do so they could before that with glass I didn't know well I usually don't
00:19:45| know how I did that jeez they might have used like the manual process where they're like trying to spin glass I know they couldn't make it very large so the moment they could make it very large and
00:19:54| with staying with stands from strength the hell yeah it's gonna be big a giant building made out of only glass and steel so it was pretty bad yeah yeah the Crystal Palace looked pretty amazing it
00:20:06| looked like it was like oh let me see he's if it's inside of it as you make something like this in Minecraft I'm probably dead I mean who is the glass fire you know
00:20:19| the first person that was like oh we have shit on a glass now let me just take out of this chest and start building a giant mansion with it when I used to play on minecraft with my friend
00:20:30| on pandered in we would literally just spend a long time maybe an entire session taking sand and putting it in the furnace to make glass because we know we were gonna make glass ceilings
00:20:43| it was glass everything baby this is literally what hundreds what do we do exactly and exactly what the Crystal Palace is exactly that makes sense to me yeah it was kind of neat because it had
00:20:57| all natural lighting you mean you don't need to have interior lights when you do this the head trees inside of it just like look we can just put trees wherever you want so we did that in our glass we
00:21:09| add natural waterfalls natural fire Falls and a lava falls and natural trees growing in darkness thinking that our house burned down to in like 19 or 18 36 oh no is that what happened to the poor
00:21:23| thing yeah it burned to the ground can glance burn I think it can melt I don't know what caught fire in here that's the floor it's a lot should have made the floor at a glass yeah we're
00:21:38| save them final date I don't know what the date is for and actually burned down like I've known you 36 I was right oh she's a pretty good guess look at you my brain is fucking weird hmm okay so they
00:21:52| made glass they started making paper so people get more educated they also the standard living was getting better save buy more chickens food mines you could do other stuff and then transportation
00:22:03| you got roads and car transportation I think is number one yeah they know you didn't put it number one but I think transportation is what changes it changes the urban dynamic as people can
00:22:13| now travel to these little centrally located factories which are producing a massive amount of goods making it so that other people can buy more stuff they get more money because they're
00:22:24| working in a specialized field and then it just turns and turns insurance so people can buy these beans itself technical mass production baby did you know highways are built a certain way
00:22:37| yeah we did you got it I feel like you got the staff yeah no I don't have this bat why oh there's a stat Bonnie I saw a YouTube video on it and I was like wow that's really interesting yeah there was
00:22:48| a certain grade and then like the machinery they used and then like the sizing of the pebbles and stuff no I wasn't even going there I was going with how the planning happened there was no
00:22:58| Highway Patrol planning there was no there's no centralized figure that was in charge of highways there was just a group of people who would push how they learned it built huh and there's a lot
00:23:09| of money exchanged as to where the highway ramps and things were placed now of course the people with the most money fought the highway out of their area the people with the poorest areas that's why
00:23:21| when you go into most urban cities that are built in the 1920s and beyond like nothing that was built like nowadays it's different but back then beyond the freeway would cut through the city and
00:23:33| it wouldn't touch most of the city most of the urban area it would be they touch you down in a poor area because the over after I am four lanes yeah you can crush it did you could put down whatever noise
00:23:45| pollution physical pollution all the cars coming off hmm eyesore and then you know at that point they're six blocks away from where they need to be but those people were the ones that also
00:23:56| couldn't fight it long enough legally yeah cuz it haven't go right and then it would just go out to like somewhere in the suburbs and be like hey back to your home and also who pretty
00:24:08| dark pretty dark Americas freeways baby eventually there were regulations and stuff placed on it but for a while I was like sorry you're screwed and that's why when you go into most cities then you
00:24:19| take the freeway or you take the highway you're you're using GPS or whatever you're like cool does it Bend or a neighborhood okay two blocks away we're good kind of gives reduction in
00:24:28| neighborhood first word but like yeah so they didn't like their highway being there but what are they gonna do exactly not to be the downer or a sideway just wanted to bring it up
00:24:41| so that brings us to Henry Ford who everyone should probably know Ford Motor Company oh Jesus I thought different report oh yeah my neighbor down the street know this one the car guy yeah
00:24:56| and the car guy car guy he's the one who started assembly lines I don't think he wants to take credit for it he just said it's like logical to do which actually took up like 60% of the best domestic
00:25:10| market when it actually came out I get it's pity yeah it's be impressive he's so what did they do before the Maltese anyone though I don't know what was I know there was a few there's I mentioned
00:25:22| I read like there like five cars you can get but like they were all like you had to wait like a year to get it or something I don't know I don't I'm kind of curious we'll come back to this as a
00:25:30| correction come on for correction for the episode I'm just bringing up some insight for the people I know what kind of options do you have in 1906 ish yeah power windows or no no I don't think
00:25:43| they haven't had windows that could roll up and down would they they had the windshield though right I have the windshield and I think they had like a little thing they
00:25:50| could close I don't you know if you yes you have a fabric thing that's sweet I don't even know there's like breaks I think they just doesn't let off the gas here's my question you
00:26:00| get a Model T like you go out on the roads like do you just want to tear ass around all the horses you say probably I'm gonna put that bad boy to use right so what did you do it you could visit
00:26:16| your friends they couldn't visit you so personal with the Model T had all the power right I guess you mean it cries all your friends have you bum and rides off you know you're not giving them ride
00:26:26| to that anybody could hold for ya I could get hold for you pass the do be around in the Model T you imagine it back through the day like and then did they have any way to play music back
00:26:39| then a music box the music box oh you checking out some Model T stuff I'm not gonna picture any label okay it looks like it's only once two two-seater two-seater yeah yo you
00:26:56| and the old lady and then you go to Jimmy's house he's like I need you to bring me some where you're like they do have a four-seater model which I get out yeah that's what I'm about okay so that
00:27:05| two different kind of Model T's apparently how the hell did your kids get to unlike soccer practice without the Model T it was their new soccer back then they were still working in the
00:27:17| mines and in the factories good they're dainty little hands could get in the machinery to pull out all the nasty stuff make sure that the meetings are building the mom please in a way I look
00:27:29| down on it like we shouldn't have that but on the other hand like he imagined the kid that was the best at it and was like really good he never got hurt like he was paid handling all the other
00:27:37| people high-five don't like it's can't believe they took the job away from them he'd sigh when other people got hurt he's like I knew it was gonna happen idiot how could ya it's erroneous he's
00:27:48| ruining it for the rest of us Labor's were good at our job and here's the thing do you think like he he like turned like 16 and like his hand started getting bigger and his voice cracked and
00:28:00| all the other workers would take off their at put it over their chest and and the the manager come over and usually he's yelling and screaming today he was like
00:28:09| Little Jimmy I'm sorry but we're done your servants here oh shoot I can still do it and then her like you can't anymore Jimmy be done you're hanging your hands is too big and he's
00:28:23| like I could still do it look at me do it was just looking embarrassed with their hand and her hat over here like he was a good child worker just everyone's real sad
00:28:38| so you're touching on some of the workers who were displaced by technology they focused on a guy named Ned Ludd who was not directly involved with the Luddites Ned Ludd mm-hmm okay
00:28:55| Edward Edward blood they suspect he became kind of like a mythic figure so the Luddites were actually they so this is there's a clarification here in the story that I read was that they was not
00:29:09| a good focus I'm getting ready here this is not rude I'm just getting ready they weren't no they were not directly against technology releasing their jobs they were just mad that they couldn't
00:29:18| feed themselves because they had no jobs which is essentially the same thing because their technology when it came out her breaking robots yeah they're smashing looms and things that were like
00:29:30| Weaver's and seamstress le apples these are my people this is probably like my relatives I'm just doing it probably because you're a light they were they were against technology that's the
00:29:43| reference today is that they are against technology don't want to move forward yes you raise my hands to be all of you only version no no I was raising my hand I agree with him you agree okay just
00:29:53| making sure mines man making friends high-five and silly other workers it's a damn shame we took that from one but guys let's move forward yes I think a story I read said
00:30:06| that the military was involved to protect the factories because they were all centrally located I think Napoleon was off fighting a war at some point and to compare it to like
00:30:16| the total military force there was thirty percent of the mill protecting the industrial complex from the Luddites who were trying to destroy it
00:30:23| what yes how many lights are there apparently there are a lot there are a lot of people trying to sabotage other I guess other factories as well because they're trying to come up on top keep in
00:30:36| mind this as much as we marvel it have one machine 230 people's jobs one person could destroy a machine good point I mean yeah half a person could probably destroy a machine alone with it
00:30:50| in a room for an hour so I guess it does take more than one person to guard a such a device I guess that's why the u.s. is military budget is the highest in the world I know and has me along
00:31:02| with yeah we're protecting our looms yeah we're gonna mess up our cotton gins shout out to the young panders want to make a shout out to the troops for protecting all our looms out there no
00:31:19| recent holiday went by recently just I just want to be first and foremost we respect the looms mm-hmm and we're making colors red white and blue are number one two and three on our Lube
00:31:32| would you say that sure so so the revolution that Henry Ford started was that he he found out there's massive turnover when you have an assembly line and people do work that is technically
00:31:46| not fulfilling because they're doing one little thing it's not intelligent and it's displacing skilled workers then he said for every good every one for every were full timers he would have to hire
00:32:04| about a thousand to make sure that they could be replaced and actually keep them so there's a huge ratio of people that would just turn over they just constantly move through the assembly let
00:32:16| me go yeah come Akama comin comedian that's always right about Henry Ford people coming and go come and go this long I think it is but not sure that's what that's what they wrote about I mean
00:32:31| it was a sad time but whoever wrote chameleon knew that Henry Ford was trying to find a way to make to make history to make change in the labor world and would you say he found a way
00:32:44| to do it with these assembly lines so he did two things what to do some days yeah replace them with machines not at this time Oh initially initially he did he raised
00:33:01| their wage and he made it like ah my man multiples more than what it was he enables them to buy their own product that they were making so it was a multiple on a multiple for him so he
00:33:14| could make it so that his own workers were buying his product but also making more obviously because now you have people are buying it yeah and to retain more of them he changed the workweek so
00:33:24| instead of six days 48 hours now five days and 40 hours which a lot of people claim you could probably work only three days and do the same amount of productivity are you talking about
00:33:39| someone famous I think I think someone who's mentioned this later yeah the moose wing gets a winner we probably will he's crazy I think we will we can skip quite a head so the next cycle
00:33:57| revolution is the third one which was computer and automation which was very recent it was rich I would say I kind of began in what you say like 1980s but would you it's called I didn't come
00:34:16| across it as a revolution which is what's catching me what was the revolution what where where did something change eternally like no more do we have registers punch out not the
00:34:27| right number for change when we hand them a 20 like a lot of the machines prior to our digital revolution were analog or mechanical so you have devices now that you can reprogram pretty much
00:34:40| it will and then we have them do very defined tasks tasks plural tasks I understand mm-hmm yeah this I mean I think we lived through it okay we're aware of what I
00:34:56| think we digital revolution is everything's digital no were you getting in it yeah everything is now programmable you can make it so it's interchangeable and there's things for
00:35:08| pretty much anything I don't know that there's a robot out there that can do all of human beings possibilities all capabilities words are plants learn robot to water our plants I mean it
00:35:21| wouldn't look like a human but it would be able one behind you to do somewhere I'm just saying I don't know I would cost money which is a big problem with robots isn't it yeah I
00:35:41| guess that's so the initial capital is start a factory with a lot of robots if you were to like use Tesla's experience he adds it's like billions of dollars multiple billions of dollars to do it
00:35:51| so the controlled wealth of like the United States like they say like the top controls a majority of wealth which is absurd it's like the ability to build these factories that then control the
00:36:05| future you can do what Henry Ford is that you set your own price and then sell your goods to your own people and boom you've just dominated the whole world boom
00:36:15| folks what I find is that a lot of these things we were talking about are on I'm trying to find the right wording here because we're talking about automation and a transition to and then I'll make
00:36:30| it really relative stage that good we're on computers now that are connected through a network of things that we don't see it's all digital we get video and audio we can record it we
00:36:41| can save it locally we can stream it to eight different places and then shoot media it's all relatively free and cheap yeah on banners calm it's pretty incredible so this stuff we just kind of
00:36:53| grew up in and you can't even imagine going back 200 years where you didn't have play you didn't have paper yeah everything you know after 6:00 p.m. we
00:37:04| got no lights you don't have any lightning bring a torch you don't have screws or anything you don't have a screwdriver because they didn't machine it yet it's like how do you get how do
00:37:14| you make you can't make your own nuts and bolts at that point your system that's just not suggesting incredible hmm you want to talk about I know you do
00:37:22| you're waiting for me that's two robots of the future I'm not what I'm saying is for everything we do there's a trade-off for everything we make with a bunch of
00:37:32| screws and a set design of places and you know set points for screws to go in that we can use our screwdriver I can't item a item of the exact same design a chair before this IKEA chair
00:37:46| was probably made three times better it probably costs four times as much that whittled away from a bonsai tree trunk even if it was holy shit that's better than anything from Ikea
00:38:00| right it's more durable it lasts your a lifetime a hundred percent do you need that there's a reason I didn't say it I'm making a point here yeah there is a trade-off for everything there's a
00:38:15| trade-off for every single transaction we make in life for every action there is an opposite but equal reaction I would say so when we talk about stuff being easier to make stuff being cheaper
00:38:38| limited I mean through a degree to a degree if I said it sucks 1% more but it's still very much usable it still sucks more would you agree which is worth the trade-off I wouldn't say it's
00:38:51| not worth that trade-off but I would say it sucks more I know you want to argue with me no we're gonna get to one real later on how machines are the worst it they so they did a thing with um goddamn
00:39:09| we're skipping right to the end here I'll get to this later you could skip to that actually you can do it you do it okay I do like AI related stuff yeah so AI related stuff
00:39:19| versus human stuff huh they surmise and this was on I don't have the actual website I can pull it up we really need to but um the AI has taken over advertisements on our Facebook
00:39:37| everything like you know Jing what you like because of what you've done in the past and it's providing you saying it's using an algorithm it's gonna figure out what you grow so do you know what it
00:39:50| does it creates an advertisement that's designed specifically for you and you're gonna click it and you're gonna buy everything they friggin say except AI robots computers are actually really bad
00:40:04| at this they hear what you say and you might say the word sweatshirt hoodie whatever and they'll show you some hoodies you know like that's where I said hoodie and you will never click on
00:40:14| it in fact the success rate for Facebook is close to 0.9 percent of all views result in a click of those I couldn't find the actual information that resulted in a
00:40:27| purchase probably 0.9 percent of them interesting but well interestingly enough it's probably really cheap to send all those ads algorithm doesn't work right so of course you like you
00:40:41| know 100 bucks they send out a couple million at least the average human went doing these ads to targeting them reaches point zero five percent so robots are better right so I'm gonna
00:40:58| bring in our own stats here robot noises robots were almost twice as good at making you click the ads but that twice as good is the difference between under personal salesman that would come up and
00:41:12| say hey what are you really looking for do you think you'd be more fulfilled you think you would have more clicks more sales would what's are they calling me are they showing up at my
00:41:25| housed on your screen imagine it's not like oh excuse me sorry I know you were searching for top and dolphin nudes are you sure that you want that on the sweatshirt
00:41:38| okay nice except for you I said I want three of them anyway no no uh I don't think that would help either there's a reason it's less than 1% so there's two things here there's so I have like
00:41:54| YouTube stats of our own channel and we have what are called impressions views and then clicks which equal watch time and right now as it stands there were someone's seeing now or it's like Siri
00:42:12| on a speed or its appeared on something it's appeared on a page about somebody to do something with if they see it or not doesn't matter so of that there's a 1.5 percent chance
00:42:24| that they actually click hey we got a that there's 640 views okay which then converts to watch time in minutes which is pretty low which is like 2% like as amount of watch
00:42:43| yeah it's 2% so thanks folks thank you at home folks so you're filtering down like this giant bucket of people down to another little tiny bucket to a tinier little bucket
00:42:54| but it's all automated do you care that it's the computers wasting energy and time because it's not your time no no I I came down with a rule of thumb to go by machines robots AI are very good at
00:43:15| and actually will do good at UM amplifying the human experience so they they make us communicate better or faster or stronger or two more people at once
00:43:27| they help us travel faster or two more places or whatever at once and lastly they help us with strength and speed of a job like there's no way I can lift 400 bales of hay
00:43:39| and do it into a machine everything I think machines are great at that they always have been I think they always will I think what people think of when they hear machines are taking jobs is
00:43:52| they think eventually a robot could take don't have done your job and it's been a fear for the past 15 years now we're putting it in the past five years though because that's like Oh a eyes come along
00:44:06| oh the Google's trying to get people machines to drive and you know what their success rate is 99 point something percent without an accident pretty good problem is where's the
00:44:20| liability lie on the one percent on where they crashed and crap there's no person where there's a crime being committed what happens there you killed a person Google who goes to
00:44:32| jail huh well it's a robot there will always be a fear that robots will take our job but a reality that I doubt they ever will but what if there's a fewer percentage of accidents because of it I
00:44:47| think it's a good idea and I think it's a good tool I think it points us in the right direction I think machines and robots and AI help point us in a direction and help guide
00:44:59| us I think they supplement the human experience I don't think they ever replace it I mean good so one of the things I read about in I guess factories is that they have like PLC so they have
00:45:13| programmable programmable logic circuits which are like sent boxes that do a set task whatever you want them to do same thing with like FPGAs which are field programmable gate arrays it's like a set
00:45:24| logic on a sitting thing so it will take care of the monotonous stuff for people who are operating a large plant per se mm-hmm but when those things fail and the person who's operating it hasn't
00:45:36| done those tasks in a long time it makes them almost incapable of performing those tasks even though that's their job does that make sense they haven't done it so long I mean no it it's it used to
00:45:48| have 60 people doing this job now you got two robots doing it if one of the one two of the robots goes down or there's a virus or a programming error well now
00:45:57| you don't have 60 people who are willing to do it you have two or three who kind of know how to do it and they haven't done it in so long yeah they have to remember how to do it
00:46:07| also the criticality of tasks that those people have to do is much higher it's the test that humans have to do because it's so important that a human is involved yet those people are not as
00:46:19| involved in the whole process and they're not as attentive when it comes down to the criticality of it it's interesting it's almost like you would take it kind of light-hearted because
00:46:29| it's your only task it can't be that difficult but it's the most important one it's the one that they wouldn't give to robots but they'll give to you because you have intuition or logic or
00:46:41| something I guess well I I actually would agree that you have something um so there's a website where the cool robots take my job maybe they actually I didn't write down the website because
00:46:51| it's so common I think it's cool robots take my job right this is an interesting website yep that's exactly what it is it's called world robots to take my child google it type in your job
00:47:05| description start to start to type in and finish it what do you want me to put in my job or your job do yours because I actually wrote down a couple that I have results for you Oh what yours might be
00:47:16| project manager something really I'm gonna put stupid rocket scientist I roast a Sinjin ears let's put that one job in I'm totally safe Wow hmm that's pretty good let's put in yourself what's
00:47:39| what would you call sales management I don't know tile you know retail sales persons I'll just put you in that one sounds pretty lame retail sales could be something boring like toilet paper
00:47:56| that's true which i think is very replaceable i think the current job I have is kind of like you can I tried to put marble in there but I'm gonna call you I'll just say you're a
00:48:09| stonemason because that sounds cooler that's not it so if your stonemason there's actually huh eighty-nine percent what is this alright so I did I found the highest and lowest
00:48:26| numbers I actually could although yours is actually one percent better so arbitrators mediators and conciliators are roughly four percent actually where'd you say yours was heiress made
00:48:39| anyway the lowest number I found was arbitrators mediators and conciliators they're like a four percent chance at being replaced by robots aerospace engineers have a two percent chance of
00:48:50| being replaced by robots I thought about this actually is that the highest number I thought do you know what the highest number a ban was being replaced yeah now I just I hit random until I found a high
00:49:00| number it was pattern wood pattern makers especially in would cause a good machine could find a pattern and just cut the wood in a certain way ninety-one percent chance of being replaced I was
00:49:13| thinking about this for like AI I was like one of the most fearful professions is probably like let's put in like doc burger flipper try burger flipper now I tried burger flipper dude sued burger
00:49:25| bun dude sir that's what it's manual isn't answering also like waitress or waiter waiters and wages you think the highest number you could
00:49:39| find on that is it says you are doomed oh yeah that's what the pattern would make er whatever highest percent for what ice what do you think the highest percent we could find is I'm kind of
00:49:50| curious what that trucker cuz that's the one that like causes the yeah it's a weird one that's Freight stock and movers material handers 85% my hand that's a little lower I don't know what
00:50:05| does do you know what the highest one is no I was I literally clicked random until I came up to 91% on pattern pattern makers would I didn't even come across the 94% you came across for
00:50:16| whoever that was wasn't weight yeah yeah I was with a burger flipper I'm telling you it's burger flipper now for literal thing yeah I don't know if it is that's like 100 percent right so
00:50:26| there's uh there's the factory side of it which is meat poultry fish cutters and trims oh yeah yeah what's that at well then something is like 99% but anyway I got so I thought about this
00:50:44| when I was at jury duty earlier this week if you had an AI that was a lawyer and that was your public defender it would probably act better than a normal public defender I'm giving
00:50:56| it a zero I'm I'm going away from it yeah wait did a public defender yes yeah I guess then a free one yes it would act better than a free one I think cuz a free one would have human elements that
00:51:08| would mess up I think a good one that gets paid that I'm going with a good one now what was the ratio like a normal public defender has like over a hundred cases at a time right at that point yes
00:51:18| I had a percent agreement and imagine an AI that could pull up a specific case and look at this from the 1939 and give you some yeah or tell you that make sure you don't apply because your device a B
00:51:32| and C I'm done I just don't think it would actually be able to find things that actually relate because it would be like this person was a chicken cutter this person was a barber this does not
00:51:43| relate like I feel like machines are extremely limited if we don't give them all the inclusions ahead of time so part of it you're touching on is called what's parsing and lexing so there's
00:51:58| like a program called antler which was another tool for language recognition I believe and the whole goal is that it would parse these like sentences normal human sentences and make it so you can
00:52:12| understand the connections between the different words so they can then extract understanding so that's your whole goal in what you're saying that's failing if you could understand human speech and a
00:52:25| computer could then take that and process it and then respond back to you and some of these programs do it but not to a level that I believe they fully understand it I don't think
00:52:38| they'd be good at it because they're parsing speech that's from the 1970s let's say like if we're looking through a stack of information that's really old there's no way anyone is at the time or
00:52:51| at or ability to incorporate all the language everyday use and colloquialism from 1970 and how they might apply to language now especially because that program is probably at least a year old
00:53:04| at this point and has not been replaced yet so I would just yes if you were looking at laws from the 1970s and deciding whether they apply or don't apply it would a computer really be able
00:53:16| to understand whether it I don't think they could I think they would on a basic level but if you were comparing a burger flipper and he ran into the same crazy occurrence that a lawyer in Detroit did
00:53:29| back when he was you know on a parole board serving for a guy who was committed for double murder but it turns out you can't be tried for the same like there's too much work going on yeah for
00:53:42| the robot to look at in fact he would probably skim over it yeah there's a fixed knowledge that I think a robot would be able to look up but if there's logic that is outside of the normal
00:53:52| processor outside of anything that ever happened before a human being should be there to be able to figure it out and then leave the case to wherever it needs to go so will a robot replace me what is
00:54:05| it called what is that website I just closed it okay will the robot take my job on States it's cool will robots take my job is a cool website everyone should go there check it out type in your job
00:54:19| see if your gonna replace and I thought Dan it's cold it's ruthless like this is like the future we're all afraid of a little bit except that at the bottom of every page they talk about the book
00:54:31| they're selling it's called robot is the boss and they're selling it for x-men $1 and that's the whole reason for the website and I thought I found a one percenter
00:54:41| hydraulic hydrologists the research and distribution of circulation of physical properties of underground and surface waters the study form and test see precipitation its rate of infiltration
00:54:51| of the soil moving through the earth and its return to the ocean and atmosphere okay well then it got me thinking because the guy wants to sell a book it's really the whole goal of the
00:55:05| website so kind of took away from everything I read I was like well maybe they are just guessing in the dark almost island represent mmm-hmm so I did a little research and we're doing a lot
00:55:20| of research into robots I mean technology everywhere industry is looking into robots we're gonna try and replace people especially like high-tech ones that can open doors do multiple
00:55:32| tasks at once be trained um the latest that in 2016 put it eleven point three billion dollars was putting the robot research and technology that's a lot of money trying to mimic the human brain
00:55:47| that's not right until you realized that also in that same year sixty six point seven five billion were spent on just pets giving enough food and homes and really cool cute stuff and I was like
00:56:01| yeah that's a good point but pets have more intelligence doll then the current my I it's it's it's a real weird thing so people are also afraid that the robots will take their jobs and then
00:56:14| eventually we're all gonna be out of jobs service workers truckers everybody else so wired.com did a a paper on a study that they didn't do this study it was a over seventeen countries in 2016
00:56:29| any time machines new machines robots or technology was introduced to an area it reduced the hours or the people in lower wage jobs uh-huh whether that was riveting or people who would just move a
00:56:45| piece of pipe somewhere to some cross or solder or something or just check something or break somethings down they lost hours it made it harder single who didn't have
00:56:54| enough money to begin with it did the really poorest people were doing the most menial manual labor jobs the interesting thing is that almost almost all of these companies
00:57:06| it didn't affect overall human hours so apparently they had to hire more people to check up on this stuff more people to work on the machines more people to make sure the machines are running smoothly
00:57:20| and more people so Spurs higher education it does the higher end jobs are Mealing middling if I was cradling middling middling jobs end up being more in demand so robots don't actually take
00:57:35| it away um here's another example 1970s the ATM was invented Oh the ATM the world said oh my god they're trying to get rid of the bank teller this is disgusting I like teller machine
00:57:49| several scientists surmise by the by the said holy shit so I did a little research there are still bank tellers in fact between 2000 and 2010 the number of average bank tellers per Bank rose they
00:58:10| surmise that over the next 5 years it's going down again like we're gonna go down on bank tellers like those do with eight hands and more to do with online banking and people can just do it online
00:58:22| ha I'm tellin posit I mean so what I found is that what I mentioned earlier robots help us do communication faster travel faster strengthen speed jobs faster but ultimately those three things
00:58:40| I just mentioned are the things that modify jobs communication travel speed and strength of work so like it's not that robots are gonna take the jobs it's that robots will help us do a job
00:58:52| quicker so there we don't need 18 people to do a job because now I can do it quicker we don't need 18 people to lift a stone because I per robot go a little quicker so robots can help us do
00:59:04| something quicker and that's where the jobs suffer but new jobs arise hey I'm a robot checker you no no no yeah it's the checkout line at the grocery
00:59:13| store is that if you have a go ahead please please tell it really exactly what you texted me about a month ago what was I forget what the time all right I'm gonna demand this Dan has all
00:59:25| these groceries on pattern oh yes yes list and someone comes out from the ounces please come over here I can help you but then and Dan Phil would grow home like thank you
00:59:36| finally oh my god then he comes over here and what happened she told me that I could go over to the self checkout lines and help myself quicker oh and I was like why would I do
00:59:47| that it requires me to do more work and then I was my head I imagine you came with all this food he came into the aisle I found that it was a self checkout aisle they're like oh that's
00:59:58| not good and then the person who referred me to the aisle is somehow not there doing anything walking away nice day sir thank you unskilled labor you'll your job will disappear soon I hope
01:00:12| [Laughter] really like what the heck why would she come over to tell me that I could check out by myself like you don't need to tell me rude yeah it's rude it was a
01:00:24| little bit rude sir sir you could go fuck yourself thank you very much I mean she controlled it roll me you could do this better if it was you doing it I'm like I know that I'm well aware lady I
01:00:46| don't want to well aware I'm tired of this shit so do you know why um robot suck oh boy that's uh right here it's right here hands and yep pinkies its hands because they can't do a robot is
01:01:05| not designed to be a human being it's designed to do a task it can't do all the tasks and there also isn't a general AI that can take care of all the human tasks this man went in a general AI
01:01:17| multitask use of the hand not creating a robot to be like a human because we don't want human replacements that's a good we just don't want a point triple-threat so robots robots suck
01:01:29| because they don't have hands I mean honestly the craziest thing is we've had hands for hey as long as I've been alive so at least 20 30 years and we've never been able to recreate a hand really the
01:01:43| funniest thing is when people create like a robot they can hold an egg and it's like yeah except an egg and places in the bowl without breaking it you're like dressing craziest thing I've ever
01:01:53| seen so really robot just was told to pick up an agate point X and place it in Y without breaking it I mean I could teach my gun to do that what if I asked you to throw it across the room could
01:02:09| you do that no you couldn't do the robots we create now are very specific they have specific tasks they're built seventeen scientists work for six years to make a robot that can walk up steps
01:02:26| and it's like whoa they're gonna replace this it's like don't ask it to walk straight or do anything else it just walks up steps okay so I won't I don't know how de all that bites I'm just
01:02:38| gonna say it's not gonna get yelled at by its wife walk backwards down the steps and carry a basket of laundry there's no chance to nail exact shame I can't do that robots can't do that but
01:02:50| good camo Boston Dynamics whoever they showed like robots they're communicating and opening doors and then saving people and like carrying them on their back yeah hold on it was two robots the dog
01:03:00| who can open the doors and the dog wet the hand attached to its head who could open doors do you know if I changed the height of that doorknob by six inches that robot wouldn't be able to open that
01:03:11| door but you've seen the flea flicker right the one that can jump like thirty feet the one that um yeah it does the somersault think that yeah it does like a backflip almost all the way well I've
01:03:22| also seen that one eff up and just land on its ass like 400 times because it screwed up look do you know I mean like these robots that we see video of it's like
01:03:32| this is crazy it's gonna replace humans any now no that took 19 years buddy to do a back flow my got one shot of it we got the back flip down it's not gonna it's
01:03:44| not gonna go into work get yelled at by its boss you know like going to the back room do a Jo session like I don't know like complex very complex actions we initiate - it takes so long to do in
01:04:00| your defense for the reason that we wanted to act human well that's ridiculous it's gonna take millions of years for us to make robots act like humans because
01:04:11| that's how long nature took to make humans right I disagree I think it's probably within a hundred years that we're gonna have Rome Jesus Christ you sound like the guy who told me there's
01:04:20| gonna be flying cars or that ATMs are gonna replace bank tellers it's bullshit I don't know if you've looked at like the map of the internet which I'm gonna click on right now so people can see
01:04:31| okay I have to bring it up if you're telling about information moving very quickly which i think is the greatest achievement of humankind not robots at all robots suck I will say hey I saw
01:04:42| Elon Musk was all about like the transmission of information he said that like humans are too slow to input in information into a network and that robots will pretty much get frustrated
01:04:54| with us so I have the map of the internet which actually is kind of impressive you have these little linked nodes that are kind of like central on each other like themselves and like they
01:05:04| look like okay I would say like you know those uh dandelions yeah exactly so you have little dandelions floating in the middle of this giant network that actually looks a lot like a brain so if
01:05:17| you could harness all the knowledge on the internet and make it into a robot that understands the way humans think feel and all that sort of crazy stuff I think you're on the cusp of having some
01:05:29| sort of crazy AI that becomes you're including all the Pepe memes on the internet you're including all the workout blogs on the Internet you're including all the people that say you're
01:05:40| a robot you have muscles you're including all the blogs that say you can feed your autistic kids bleach too to heal them like do you know that's the thing like that's awful I don't disagree
01:05:51| but I'm saying then you have to make modifiers who tells the robot what's right what's wrong then you have to modifiers who tell the modifiers what should be right and what shouldn't be
01:06:03| wrong robots are only ever gonna be as smart as we tell them to and we are not smart we screw up all the time we're idiots we're passionate people I think you in a
01:06:14| previous episode tried to show me robot art it was garbage let's try I think he tried to show me robot music it was trash and it took millions of robots
01:06:25| firing off axons and research and development teams and all this stuff to make this music and that's the thing humans will always have the edge hmm I'm just saying because we create robots if
01:06:40| something else came to be that had nothing to do with us I don't know I can't tell you we create robots and we suck click it's not like we're gonna be like we've created the perfect art we've
01:06:53| created the perfect music we've created the perfect algorithm to see justice we don't even know the answer so how could something we make using all of our knowledge surpass us not to mention our
01:07:08| knowledge changes day to day a robot has a robot that is strictly dedicated to facial recognition takes our greatest processor snapdragon whatever I don't know the number it can it can recognize
01:07:23| a face in any circumstance do you know what it can't do it can't add math while it's recognized in the face it can't recognize two faces at once it can't do two things at once can you
01:07:35| recognize if two faces at once and do math at the same time you know dude I'm always checking out hot honey's across the room I'm checking out who's walking in the door I know the smell coming from
01:07:46| the back rooms tuna fish I'm like I know who dolls make it a tuna fish in the back I know I gotta close that deal in the next five minutes I get a granite deal in 40 minutes the feel of the floor
01:07:55| Tina I'm saying a robot can't do any of that stuff robots suck hmm in my opinion I think they do one thing really well and we think they're
01:08:03| the bee's knees I think sometimes they do two things and we're like this is crazy but ultimately they don't they literally do what we tell them to do and then we say there's
01:08:16| learning robots they're my favorite this learning robot will know language better than you try and talk to it and I'm like hey Susie you're fucking loser and it's like don't
01:08:26| use language at me and I'm like you're a freakin loser and she's like thank that's not nice and I'm like great learning robot like do you mean there's something these
01:08:38| robots I can spy robot a mile away I spot all these inventions ten miles away and they all kind of they look like hmm they're like yeah they're not that good the
01:08:52| targeted ads on Facebook they're not good I don't think that they could be get better I just don't here I read an article they had what robots will actually need to
01:09:06| surpass humans and become dangerous and take our jobs right the processor that's roughly ten thousand times greater than what we have possible unless you listen to Moore's law right which what they
01:09:19| double right they double up to a point where their heat capacity yeah this is I think that yeah the size of the energy that you can move is limited by the right I think we move on we haven't
01:09:32| peaked where I was gonna keep getting better but we're not getting a peak on actually they're number two we need a network that's light speed it constantly across all circus whether it's in an
01:09:44| individual or across individually getting these tasks from I read it on a whole article that was like a science journal today or something no science journal today it was literally a science
01:09:54| when I look it up anyway it would also need to be nonstop it's not down for repairs it's not four hours a day whatever doesn't sleep for eight hours like hour all the human beings on
01:10:05| the world you listen man it might need to especially considering the next two battery life there's no battery that can eat replicate even close to the human
01:10:16| capacity it's like it's a ticket joke what is the human capacity if you don't get in any input if you have no water or no air how long can you last I think 40 years
01:10:28| so people have surmised that if you were to send something out of our solar system it probably isn't human because it can't survive that long but a robot right so the life that be transmitted
01:10:39| from University universe would have to be robotic I don't disagree but I think it would suck more like you imagine it feeling like this is our representative of humanity it's great it's just it's a
01:10:53| robot be to work sooner it can count to that's cool can I do anything else and you're like it can open a door if it's exactly the right height the handle should thing and you're like it's good
01:11:06| so let's talk about the things I'm done uh-oh so I'm part programmer so in the beginning I wanted oh no I should own programming in this guy's a programmer and I shouldn't have done it
01:11:20| so in the beginning I wanted to like a poker stats so I could like tell who like what are my odds of winning this hand at this table with X number of players with these types of cards out so
01:11:32| I figured out yeah so I figured out when to play and when not to play that was like the initial like I could out edge people at the table by understanding just percentages permutations of
01:11:45| possibilities as most people don't understand that yeah I understand and my card left the amount of cards on the table the amount of cards available in the amount of cards it could flip yeah
01:11:54| it's dedicated to a number or an idea of a number it's not actual science it's just more of a educated guess it's not a guess because you can get four fours in a row even though it's not it's a
01:12:06| percentage chance of happening which is bet on accordingly if people are intelligent enough to know the odds and it can still land on four fours in a row yes would you could lose but if you were
01:12:19| to play the percentages you would make money over time if you had a hundred years and 100 million dollars if I'm going to the casino or one robot that would play online poker for you
01:12:31| multiple times a day on multiple tables all at once you don't have to have all the capital to give it though wouldn't you I mean if it was winning if you could figure out the horizon where you
01:12:42| would make money and you could outlay enough money to make more money than you could continuously do I bet I guarantee there are people out there that had bots that were doing this making money off of
01:12:52| human players that didn't know the odds and they probably made okay boat loaded you can make you can make some money off of human players in a game yeah but I feel like there's a reason that's not a
01:13:05| popular sold item or even a multi-million dollar sold item where are there are overlays to tell you the percentages I doubt anybody that's making money would tell people that
01:13:16| they're making money that way because it's frowned upon but it's achingly gonna get banned like bots are bad but it could also make money off of it they could make em says they could make if
01:13:27| you could make money on something it will sell yeah but do you think people were really talking about it would they really bring out that they're using a you know legal man who can play
01:13:35| thousands of games that wants to couldn't you smell that for 10 million dollars if you only sold that three people if you made it that public if you showed off that you were doing this
01:13:47| you're also sitting on a platform that is controlled by somebody else who can then ban you or ban the process that you're using sure so if you play the exact mathematical method well and are
01:14:00| winning do you think that maybe the company that owns the process is going to say this is a bot because it's perfect it's a perfect player this doesn't happen so I'll get into I'll get
01:14:15| into my whole spiel here is that I've done this for a multiple game so the poker one was just a program to figure out what the percentages were I've done it for like Diablo 3 I had somebody run
01:14:25| through a bot that would run through actually I'm like three or four different characters and they would gather money so they'd kill things they pretty much banned the map and walked
01:14:36| through the map and then collect all the gold and then I tried to sell the gold to other people for cash and they busted me because they watched what my players were doing which
01:14:46| was not human-like and they banned me on one of my accounts I had like four accounts sale he didn't get the other three though would you make money on the other three I stopped because I don't I
01:14:58| didn't have the heart to keep going it's not it's not a big moneymaker like I wouldn't have made like thousands of dollars on it it would just been like a couple hundred and at that point I was
01:15:09| like tired with the game I wanted to move on to other things I could have made money on it if I had stopped running the bots while I was trying to sell the gold that I amassed and even in
01:15:22| that vein there were games that are set up such that you can't win I was like I had the best equipment that you could possibly buy because I had an endless amount of gold and I still couldn't get
01:15:32| through the entire game because it was does is designed to be bullshit I got mad in the middle that sense maybe to stop robots may be to stop BOTS yeah cuz you're only the bots are at the
01:15:42| end it's the same thing with media and Twitter finding out that like almost 80% of accounts are probably bought related I'll keep going past I was thinking about it path of exile if you played
01:15:58| that it's like a diablo clones yeah I also made like a group of things that would a group of things were characters that were auxilary to my main character that would support me as I
01:16:09| play through the game so that was like when you need a group of like six people yeah if you need a group of six people to help you through a game you could just bought the other five and they'd be
01:16:19| better than human players they'd be reliable and then all of the items and whatever you collect is yours so there's like a domination effect there taken about it responds you're thinking about
01:16:32| it yeah they're way worse than human characters but I will say keeping all six chairs hell yeah yeah there's no way that humans would be worth five times better than there's something that you
01:16:46| do notice when you get that much that many items and you're collecting all that stuff is that their little management becomes very tedious and you almost have to have a bot to take away
01:16:55| any human aspect whatsoever care to carry some of the good to sell it all just get rid of it and just be like I'm done with this game and this moves on to something that you know very well
01:17:07| clash of clans you saw what you saw my bot in action it would provide evil with donations whatever they asked for definitely helped in the donation is a hundred percent mm-hmm
01:17:18| it would be learn it would also fight it would do visual recognition so if it was trying to fight somebody you could tell whether it had a lot of working in the race our was there the difficulty it
01:17:31| would look at different types of bases and say did I win on this old base do I want to attack this base what's the chance that I make money off of this base they would take all these things
01:17:40| into account that a human player could never take into account in like the what you have like 30 seconds to determine whether you want to attack it it we do it like I will interrupt you and say
01:17:49| this a human player could absolutely determine all the exact same things yeah the problem is the human players not running 24 hours a day on multiple computers on it right that's the benefit
01:18:01| so the benefit isn't skevur ility yes scalability which again goes to amplify amplitude I spoke of earlier I don't think robots are ever good at half the things but they are good at
01:18:14| amplifying things hella good that's a that's a pretty sweet deal actually when I think about it typing in 3 2 1 1 2 3 and then doing art saying yeah that was whenever what do
01:18:26| you want want and you could spawn a troop and you would feed you that truth which is that's it was good and I'm trash don't bet really sweet sweet badass move so there's a key element to
01:18:39| that that made me happy is that I could actually help somebody immediately rather than in the olden wood days it was like an hour wait for certain things I could just be like here
01:18:48| it is I already had it for you and you asked for it and here you go so cool helping people is really my main driver it was amplifying again amplifying robots or a light all that stuff is
01:19:02| incredible amplifying I think it's unmatched there's no way to stop there's no way to be better than it no if you really if I really develop an AI that's one of the things I want to do
01:19:12| is I want to develop an AI that will play any game and then use it as like a beta tester like hmm sell me like like give me your game before it gets released and I'll figure out if there's
01:19:23| any bugs in it by using AI to determine how to play it and bug testing there's only one problem it's not gonna be a smart Azima player no it's not smart it's not gonna be as mistake-prone or
01:19:41| there's a quality that humans have like um like when we play it on fable back in college yeah remember fable yeah open-world like you could marry people you could grow you could turn evil you
01:19:56| get some fat you can be skinny you can be good you could have a halo you could have different titles like there's this very customizable game I don't know that an AI whatever um get as fat and is
01:20:07| horny as you could write a thorn I think you could oh no no no no I understand no you could and then do the two good deed tasks marry the woman from the village who used to call Tom chicken chaser but
01:20:21| will roommate and he married her bought a house one of the middling level houses he didn't buy the cheapest house he didn't buy the most expensive house we saved up a lot of money he bought the
01:20:31| house he moved in with her which you can do with your wife if you married her and he found a way to hurt her it wasn't you couldn't hit her with the sword the force push which is like one of your
01:20:42| magic spells could actually hurt her and he killed his wife and she wouldn't stop laughing while he did it cuz he hated her guts he didn't really want to marry her and I don't think a robot could ever
01:20:55| do that I can tell it to do that it would never naturally do that it would never understand the emotional implications no it doesn't understand that Tom just
01:21:05| wants to marry her so that he can kill her because she called him chicken chaser at a game and I couldn't explain that to a robot I can make the robot do exactly what I said
01:21:17| but it would never decide to do that and I still don't know if it's an error in the game or not that anyone you marry you can't hit with your sword or fireballs or anything like that but when
01:21:28| you force push them like you forced them away they hit the wall and take damage and so Tom's wife took so much damage she died he killed her and he couldn't stop
01:21:41| laughs in the video game in the video but just wild stuff and here I have a list of things that robots don't do that people do robots AI everything you name AI I have art because I think robot AI
01:21:59| art sucks it's never going to be as good as Led Zeppelin I will say that would you say that that's questionable okay it will never make mistakes the way people make them I'll give you that even
01:22:13| replicating itself isn't that the whole reason DNA is still around we've replicated ninety-nine point nine percent of our DN a and the point one percent we don't is intentional well it
01:22:23| may not be intentional at your son of us get cancer but listen it also is the reason we've been around for billions of years right yeah true another you have all the possibilities and then if you
01:22:35| did a hundred percent replication every time you'd end up with the same creature and every kind of died out because your functionality is the same correct so oh yeah yeah the way AI makes those
01:22:48| paintings is that it takes paintings that are from a previous period tries to match them and it has another AI to say I'm gonna be adversarial and counter you and say this looks too much like
01:22:57| something and then modify in and then so it's a back and forth on things that already exist so an AI is not going to say it looks like a 19th century painting with adversarial bullshit
01:23:11| decision-making right all right there's another thing that I thought humans do that AI robots can never do they outperform their abilities true you can robot that's like wow that robot
01:23:25| went above and beyond and did more than it's even capable of that's insane you see this in quartz there are people who can extend hitting streaks do 10 times more in the
01:23:35| clutch the it's hard to explain without getting emotional right now robots are bad at emotions another thing is sex I think the sex robot thing we talked about is gonna be
01:23:47| shit and anyone who has sex with the robot might as well just hump with the county deficient in some way yeah honestly you're literally humping a couch with some synthetic fibers that
01:23:59| result in skin yes and maybe a voice box that could say dirty things would you be cool with and don't get me wrong I think they should make sex robots if they're free I'll check one out and that's
01:24:11| dating but it's never gonna replace human sex you just can't I mean I guess if you're getting sex non-stop from a robot and it's free you might think about never having sex with
01:24:23| people but guess what would happen you would grow tired of that sex and want that sex you can have I agree the human nature is that they want what they can't have
01:24:32| if they get something Komachi mom she can - and lastly I want to leave us with one thing that machines at AI will never build a duplicate friendship and I think that's something there's never gonna be
01:24:48| a back-and-forth like the others I just don't I don't think so well they will the solute in the internet they can research it for future topics although they're not gonna get it
01:24:59| they're not gonna get it right I guarantee the iteration all the points they're gonna be awkward stilted back and forth between robots arguing and they may be like these two hated each
01:25:10| other I'd be like no they loved each other hmm so I want to do though it's like a beautiful sunset and there's gonna be a robot version of a sunset but like green
01:25:21| tint around some wheels where there shouldn't be squiggles yeah tell me just close close just not yet what do we cover we talked about labor that's it and botting revolutions machines
01:25:41| machined items textile a on James free time workweek with hours weren't work weeks you on Musk's Lonnie a work blood i3 heel on Musk's but most three-day workweek we talked about a
01:25:59| computer Y robot suck my robots rule Boston Dynamics robots we talk about friendship PLC mrs. Warren FPGAs PLC's ah we felt that there is no general AI yet and what's going on mm-hmm
01:26:13| and my robots don't have hands that match our own hmm hands which are tactile manipulative interactive with robots and human reason okay cool covered a lot yeah I mean yeah
01:26:32| my brain it's just feels like someone just pumped me full it's nonstop pump me right in my head right into your skull sack yeah so thanks for watching thanks thanks
01:26:47| we like you folks if you're human or if you're a robot yeah we work out an algorithm we like you a lot bellisimo what he said
00:00:14| six days a week more complex machines we've even moved into an age where robots can do labor for us we love delineating labor but at what point are we delineating labor to
00:00:32| labor to labor will our future robots need robot Butler's join us as we discover how robots will take over so I'm Dan and I'm Nick folks for old friends dissecting one topic at a time
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00:01:18| time open up your earholes [Music] mm I'm trying to catch the note I don't like I'll ever catch it but uh now we're talking automation mass production
00:01:46| bahding and new revolutions industrial revolutions tonight heck yeah my favorite one actually yeah so I wanted to something I did it all start sorry actually let's let's talk about
00:01:58| our last episodes any Corrections anyone we talked about cut off how d-types the one thing I did find was that I said something about my personality type and the female comparison so mine was like a
00:02:13| like 3% in men and like a point something percent in women so so you get another tough time yeah so the male architects have to find that one woman and then fight five other architects to
00:02:26| get her well let's think of it this way though I mean you're saying it's a small number was it less than 1% yeah yep so it's just under a billion huh good luck with that it's much lower than a billion
00:02:40| not much ups are seven so it's probably like 700 million wait we don't know let's say there's seven billion people in the world is that what we went with yes I've known
00:02:50| people and you said unless the point percent yeah plenty well you know I guess it depends on when I was the only point guard it's not 0.9 0.9 would be like over 10 percent you're bad at math
00:03:03| no point nine billion won yeah point nine percent I have no idea what you're talking about right now any calculator you want me pull out a calculator I'll do the math you do what
00:03:19| is do seven billion okay and four percent of them are architects I said three percent but three percent oh okay I thought you said four is how many people uh 210 million people okay and
00:03:37| one percent of those know it's less than that twenty five percent isn't it did you say one two every four I'm gonna use it's like one two every five okay so 20% of that now yeah yeah okay
00:03:52| so it's fine if I call it fair I'll give you the tens of millions fine you still have a lot of people to pick from look at time if I line up that many people in a room you're telling me you couldn't
00:04:04| find a mate just say money yeah somebody anyway moving on in the personality episode I said something about myself being conceited mm-hmm untrue I'm actually perfect in most categories so
00:04:20| huh and he'll work towards it I'm trying I'm trying to build something here I'd like you to join me on my campaign but anyway I also was so I was curious about like the ratio of women and like who
00:04:35| actual pairs were because it didn't really make sense and it turns out that my architect pair is perfect for a campaigner pair so horoscopes maybe your in this case magic I'm not no takes away
00:04:56| sparkle in our eyes mm-hmm and then I have this serious question mm-hmm if two t-rex's were having sex what would their arms be doing and how creepy would it be don't think as creepy
00:05:12| as we think because I'm more creeped out by what their tongues doing oh it's a huge tongue I think is probably like a slab of granite not as creeped out by the tongues or uh a hand you know I know
00:05:35| it's not that literal it's not like it's looking real like literally like this far off the arm I mean it probably looks huge compared to you already sticking out a couple feet you know yeah yeah
00:05:45| maybe I don't know like if you just had this hand correctly don't cover your base I'm pretty sure I don't see Rex I don't know making love in the weekends sauce or never in here
00:06:01| all right so let's talk about the industrial revolutions so the very first let's talk about labor it sucks right oh yes what do we do more than we do we made baskets to carry our berries
00:06:14| because do you know what they did before that yes we did they used to have to carry each berry hand by hand back to the shelter so we created something to hold more berries and that was the
00:06:26| beginning of labour delineation did you know that I did not know that look it up folks so you're saying they spent all their time gathering and eating food growing food yeah agricultural focus
00:06:40| time to do anything fun no it was all work that's terrible I mean you can look at cavemen today then just eat and Crow Creek he's talking about yourself no I was just I was just gonna say they're
00:06:55| all dead actually was mmm they're extinct future episode hmm are they really extinct if they just I guess yeah well do you know we're gonna get into this thing extinction episode but it
00:07:09| seems like you're not a hundred percent aware of this did you know there were like two to three different actually strands but yeah they pwned each other and then somehow he came out of the mix
00:07:18| take good okay no I think only one was the king good dominant they only add hominin no I forget which one Australopithecus seen no that wasn't the big one I was one of the ones that one
00:07:32| used to bang for fun stick that one in your little fact book folks and check it out australopithecine banged for fun I'm really not sure what Google will result
00:07:43| in but I don't click the images yeah that's like I fact checked you on the dolphin the an often experiment where the woman had felt like she needed to she gave it fellatio was it fellatio or
00:07:56| is it handy she didn't really specify well what did you what did you find in your research and did you image search I didn't do any image search that surgeon but they do they there was I want to say
00:08:11| is it was it was it fellating a dolphin I thought you can put your own images in there holy crap I just don't listen I know she was
00:08:20| romantically involved physically with a dolphin that was i emotionally involved though it was the dolphin was coming of age and that's how you just grow up as a dolphin you find a female scientist who
00:08:34| will take care of your needs I know what it's like neighbor moving into labor before we do have a whole episode that woman's name is Margaret how love it that's crazy
00:08:55| there's something on pattern and does that oh yeah it's like I liked it more when I didn't know her name I didn't know how old she was I had this image in my head and it was
00:09:07| like it was kind of beautiful kind of disturbing and Dan's like no actually she was 59 mm and she gave it candies on Wednesday it's like reading facts I just feel as good as when I imagine it this
00:09:26| grand waa relationship a blossoming the love between a dolphin and a woman and she's a beautiful woman in my mind maybe I'll even echo the echo location noise oh man I like all that stuff but Dan's
00:09:41| trying to ruin it by back checking too much whoa wait a second I was like oh no I don't I get it this there's footage why do we always end up here not always but okay I'm sorry we okay I'm I just
00:09:58| lay there was a folks it was there's an attractive woman doing okay and everyone that I shouldn't have looked at the images you're correct don't look at the images people that's not a good place to
00:10:07| be you'll get curious doing something you're doing like you know okay I'll have to look at these later this is anyway for research research for a future funded by NASA all right in this
00:10:27| room I guess so let's move forward let's say we're tired of making people do work everything else we find new ways of things to do work for us and see why
00:10:38| right yeah so the automation part is that you remove the human from the process so well they're not there yet Industrial Revolution started making machines that would then cut down the
00:10:47| food and store the food and give it a people and then you know you're moving along into a elijah's more 100% the reason for making machines to make work easier at this point time yes think
00:11:02| about it right yes so they kind of started triggering out that they could power things with steam and then the steam power could be manipulated to do something cyclic and circular and
00:11:11| repetitive so the innovations at the time were the textiles industry so they started making like a loom and so the production of an individual person using those technologies multiplied their
00:11:28| effectivity by about 40 to 50 times hot-diggity-dog dude textile be boomin mm-hmm so those people finally could actually make clothes and wear clothes and the
00:11:41| standard living boomed for people who were in England because that's where it originated the one stat that I found that related it to normal everyday life mm-hmm
00:11:54| there were people that were working hours and there buying food so there's a graph of hours worked to the ratio of our chicken how much food yeah how much chicken you can buy by the pound so in
00:12:08| the early 1900's this is after the Industrial Revolution but early 1900's you could buy one pound of chicken for every hour you worked okay seems reasonable
00:12:19| and if you're hungry and then by the let Ricky here you could buy about six pounds of chicken for one hour worked maybe more it's actually probably about maybe even twelve pounds of chicken it's
00:12:39| a fragile thing oh my god I said 12 that's so weird yeah it's French so it's right go to your KFC and fry up a bucket baby we're having a revolution here now a little bit this
00:12:52| depends on a facilitation of chicken yeah production right ironically enough machines used in the chicken industry made chicken cheaper mm-hmm machines in
00:13:05| all the in-betweens like transporting with chicken Michigan's gun yep everything got quicker thanks to machines so really numbers all should go that way
00:13:16| yeah dude is it to go from present time to the past you have what machines doing it you have energy to being being expended you have people who are working those machines you have transportation
00:13:27| you have cars you have roads and then you have the power facilities you have the utilities and all the infrastructure that you could never make in the industrial revolution because they just
00:13:38| started making machine tools they could actually make precise tools because then you do repetitive things over and over again so production led to production exactly it's just like minecraft baby
00:13:52| you can make that one pickaxe and then all of a sudden everything just opens up to you so now you can make three different tools and then from those tools you make three different tools
00:14:01| each and then from those you can make eight different byproducts and tools and then from those each of those you can make a subsidiary tool and it's subsidary thingy majiggy and that's a
00:14:11| technical term and who's in the jig I mean really all mannerisms of thingamabobs up here yeah and so every every thingamabobs thingamajig 'yes widgets watch my dad thing with doodle
00:14:34| he did keep talking keep talking so there was a bunch at improving techniques so we're talking about like generating energy infrastructure roads we talked about a little bit
00:14:45| mechanization something in the backseat and a blitzkrieg bop is that what that sounds a bathroom I have no idea do you remember Guitar Hero when they finally
00:15:03| unveiled more than just the guitar it was like the drama microphone the drums and there's a I think it a second guitar just would be the bass they did this while I was in college and someone
00:15:15| bought the whole set and I still remember we found out that if you said the lyrics to a song if you said any lyrics to the song in the same cadence and sort of pitch that
00:15:27| it counted as correct so Weezer say it ain't so uh who did blitzkrieg bop I don't know you so you can replace the words just like oh yeah yeah as long as you said it so say hey
00:15:42| dudes like we would just kind of make up words in a play and we discovered this on December 31st of may be like 2005 oh six got one it's one of the revolutions it was and do you know what we did we
00:15:59| played it for like five to seven straight hours drinking and I still remember this it was me be read then I still it's fine because this isn't the real names like you're gonna find be
00:16:10| read good luck but um it's one of my more memorable holidays ever um instead we had two parties to go to for New Year's Eve we stayed in and played guitar hero and made upwards of songs
00:16:26| for like eight straight hours and got blitzed trunk and I still remember those three or four songs that we unlocked because we didn't get any further and we just played them non-stop and it was so
00:16:40| much fun you know you hit unlock friendships friendship I'm sorry I derailed us dance with steam so steam was a big one that's like the thing what's next yeah well they mainly and
00:17:03| like portable so they made it so that you could actually move it places and then make it so you could build a factory around it it put out enough energy see you move tools with it it
00:17:11| replaced a lot of the manual labor that didn't make any sense I give the little children like digging in mines and stuff like moving coal around they have somebody with like a basket strapped on
00:17:21| their back and like a tiny little mind chef crawling through it it's like why wouldn't you use a minecart like have a little like train system so like this I guess I fit in heaven oh did they yeah I
00:17:32| guess we're both ways I mean you had to push it up hill and then down hill maybe should always make that and that's the other problem you're filling it downhill and then bring it back uphill so it's
00:17:41| heavier all the way back up mm-hmm that's all right all these things are kind of like playing back and forth a little bit of a symbiotic relationship and furthering technologies because then
00:17:51| you have steam and then you need heat and then you use coal and then from the coal you can generate gas so you can have light and work later longer hours with visibility and then they decided
00:18:04| they needed some oil you move on to the next revolution where you're creating things that are stronger like steel and then you move on to like electricity so you can move now and start with iron
00:18:14| there were there's iron in the beginning whooshing Tok didn't it became Steven I don't remember is that how it works cooks coke I think are you mispronouncing a word recheck your sheet
00:18:28| because I think there's a there's a trident no this is this is by memory iron coke clients mine I'm sorry iron coke is that we're talking about yeah maybe coke is a fail with high
00:18:41| carbon content with few impurities made by heating coal yeah they had like a distillery almost kind of oven for it okay so that's how they produced the gas because they could
00:18:51| could boil off of the certain things and then interesting I didn't know to ask us you remember looking at the diagram of that interesting so then we're getting more more energy we're reaching higher
00:19:06| and higher heats we're burning off more more impurities we're making it more and more condensed fuel and such to make higher and higher heats if we wanted yeah look at that
00:19:16| so people are starting to make leaps and bounds of Technology so let's move up to like the sea so like the beginning was lighting said gasps they started making glass so they made something like big
00:19:33| sheets of glass that can actually be installed in something like the Crystal Palace the Crystal Palace what on would they do so they could before that with glass I didn't know well I usually don't
00:19:45| know how I did that jeez they might have used like the manual process where they're like trying to spin glass I know they couldn't make it very large so the moment they could make it very large and
00:19:54| with staying with stands from strength the hell yeah it's gonna be big a giant building made out of only glass and steel so it was pretty bad yeah yeah the Crystal Palace looked pretty amazing it
00:20:06| looked like it was like oh let me see he's if it's inside of it as you make something like this in Minecraft I'm probably dead I mean who is the glass fire you know
00:20:19| the first person that was like oh we have shit on a glass now let me just take out of this chest and start building a giant mansion with it when I used to play on minecraft with my friend
00:20:30| on pandered in we would literally just spend a long time maybe an entire session taking sand and putting it in the furnace to make glass because we know we were gonna make glass ceilings
00:20:43| it was glass everything baby this is literally what hundreds what do we do exactly and exactly what the Crystal Palace is exactly that makes sense to me yeah it was kind of neat because it had
00:20:57| all natural lighting you mean you don't need to have interior lights when you do this the head trees inside of it just like look we can just put trees wherever you want so we did that in our glass we
00:21:09| add natural waterfalls natural fire Falls and a lava falls and natural trees growing in darkness thinking that our house burned down to in like 19 or 18 36 oh no is that what happened to the poor
00:21:23| thing yeah it burned to the ground can glance burn I think it can melt I don't know what caught fire in here that's the floor it's a lot should have made the floor at a glass yeah we're
00:21:38| save them final date I don't know what the date is for and actually burned down like I've known you 36 I was right oh she's a pretty good guess look at you my brain is fucking weird hmm okay so they
00:21:52| made glass they started making paper so people get more educated they also the standard living was getting better save buy more chickens food mines you could do other stuff and then transportation
00:22:03| you got roads and car transportation I think is number one yeah they know you didn't put it number one but I think transportation is what changes it changes the urban dynamic as people can
00:22:13| now travel to these little centrally located factories which are producing a massive amount of goods making it so that other people can buy more stuff they get more money because they're
00:22:24| working in a specialized field and then it just turns and turns insurance so people can buy these beans itself technical mass production baby did you know highways are built a certain way
00:22:37| yeah we did you got it I feel like you got the staff yeah no I don't have this bat why oh there's a stat Bonnie I saw a YouTube video on it and I was like wow that's really interesting yeah there was
00:22:48| a certain grade and then like the machinery they used and then like the sizing of the pebbles and stuff no I wasn't even going there I was going with how the planning happened there was no
00:22:58| Highway Patrol planning there was no there's no centralized figure that was in charge of highways there was just a group of people who would push how they learned it built huh and there's a lot
00:23:09| of money exchanged as to where the highway ramps and things were placed now of course the people with the most money fought the highway out of their area the people with the poorest areas that's why
00:23:21| when you go into most urban cities that are built in the 1920s and beyond like nothing that was built like nowadays it's different but back then beyond the freeway would cut through the city and
00:23:33| it wouldn't touch most of the city most of the urban area it would be they touch you down in a poor area because the over after I am four lanes yeah you can crush it did you could put down whatever noise
00:23:45| pollution physical pollution all the cars coming off hmm eyesore and then you know at that point they're six blocks away from where they need to be but those people were the ones that also
00:23:56| couldn't fight it long enough legally yeah cuz it haven't go right and then it would just go out to like somewhere in the suburbs and be like hey back to your home and also who pretty
00:24:08| dark pretty dark Americas freeways baby eventually there were regulations and stuff placed on it but for a while I was like sorry you're screwed and that's why when you go into most cities then you
00:24:19| take the freeway or you take the highway you're you're using GPS or whatever you're like cool does it Bend or a neighborhood okay two blocks away we're good kind of gives reduction in
00:24:28| neighborhood first word but like yeah so they didn't like their highway being there but what are they gonna do exactly not to be the downer or a sideway just wanted to bring it up
00:24:41| so that brings us to Henry Ford who everyone should probably know Ford Motor Company oh Jesus I thought different report oh yeah my neighbor down the street know this one the car guy yeah
00:24:56| and the car guy car guy he's the one who started assembly lines I don't think he wants to take credit for it he just said it's like logical to do which actually took up like 60% of the best domestic
00:25:10| market when it actually came out I get it's pity yeah it's be impressive he's so what did they do before the Maltese anyone though I don't know what was I know there was a few there's I mentioned
00:25:22| I read like there like five cars you can get but like they were all like you had to wait like a year to get it or something I don't know I don't I'm kind of curious we'll come back to this as a
00:25:30| correction come on for correction for the episode I'm just bringing up some insight for the people I know what kind of options do you have in 1906 ish yeah power windows or no no I don't think
00:25:43| they haven't had windows that could roll up and down would they they had the windshield though right I have the windshield and I think they had like a little thing they
00:25:50| could close I don't you know if you yes you have a fabric thing that's sweet I don't even know there's like breaks I think they just doesn't let off the gas here's my question you
00:26:00| get a Model T like you go out on the roads like do you just want to tear ass around all the horses you say probably I'm gonna put that bad boy to use right so what did you do it you could visit
00:26:16| your friends they couldn't visit you so personal with the Model T had all the power right I guess you mean it cries all your friends have you bum and rides off you know you're not giving them ride
00:26:26| to that anybody could hold for ya I could get hold for you pass the do be around in the Model T you imagine it back through the day like and then did they have any way to play music back
00:26:39| then a music box the music box oh you checking out some Model T stuff I'm not gonna picture any label okay it looks like it's only once two two-seater two-seater yeah yo you
00:26:56| and the old lady and then you go to Jimmy's house he's like I need you to bring me some where you're like they do have a four-seater model which I get out yeah that's what I'm about okay so that
00:27:05| two different kind of Model T's apparently how the hell did your kids get to unlike soccer practice without the Model T it was their new soccer back then they were still working in the
00:27:17| mines and in the factories good they're dainty little hands could get in the machinery to pull out all the nasty stuff make sure that the meetings are building the mom please in a way I look
00:27:29| down on it like we shouldn't have that but on the other hand like he imagined the kid that was the best at it and was like really good he never got hurt like he was paid handling all the other
00:27:37| people high-five don't like it's can't believe they took the job away from them he'd sigh when other people got hurt he's like I knew it was gonna happen idiot how could ya it's erroneous he's
00:27:48| ruining it for the rest of us Labor's were good at our job and here's the thing do you think like he he like turned like 16 and like his hand started getting bigger and his voice cracked and
00:28:00| all the other workers would take off their at put it over their chest and and the the manager come over and usually he's yelling and screaming today he was like
00:28:09| Little Jimmy I'm sorry but we're done your servants here oh shoot I can still do it and then her like you can't anymore Jimmy be done you're hanging your hands is too big and he's
00:28:23| like I could still do it look at me do it was just looking embarrassed with their hand and her hat over here like he was a good child worker just everyone's real sad
00:28:38| so you're touching on some of the workers who were displaced by technology they focused on a guy named Ned Ludd who was not directly involved with the Luddites Ned Ludd mm-hmm okay
00:28:55| Edward Edward blood they suspect he became kind of like a mythic figure so the Luddites were actually they so this is there's a clarification here in the story that I read was that they was not
00:29:09| a good focus I'm getting ready here this is not rude I'm just getting ready they weren't no they were not directly against technology releasing their jobs they were just mad that they couldn't
00:29:18| feed themselves because they had no jobs which is essentially the same thing because their technology when it came out her breaking robots yeah they're smashing looms and things that were like
00:29:30| Weaver's and seamstress le apples these are my people this is probably like my relatives I'm just doing it probably because you're a light they were they were against technology that's the
00:29:43| reference today is that they are against technology don't want to move forward yes you raise my hands to be all of you only version no no I was raising my hand I agree with him you agree okay just
00:29:53| making sure mines man making friends high-five and silly other workers it's a damn shame we took that from one but guys let's move forward yes I think a story I read said
00:30:06| that the military was involved to protect the factories because they were all centrally located I think Napoleon was off fighting a war at some point and to compare it to like
00:30:16| the total military force there was thirty percent of the mill protecting the industrial complex from the Luddites who were trying to destroy it
00:30:23| what yes how many lights are there apparently there are a lot there are a lot of people trying to sabotage other I guess other factories as well because they're trying to come up on top keep in
00:30:36| mind this as much as we marvel it have one machine 230 people's jobs one person could destroy a machine good point I mean yeah half a person could probably destroy a machine alone with it
00:30:50| in a room for an hour so I guess it does take more than one person to guard a such a device I guess that's why the u.s. is military budget is the highest in the world I know and has me along
00:31:02| with yeah we're protecting our looms yeah we're gonna mess up our cotton gins shout out to the young panders want to make a shout out to the troops for protecting all our looms out there no
00:31:19| recent holiday went by recently just I just want to be first and foremost we respect the looms mm-hmm and we're making colors red white and blue are number one two and three on our Lube
00:31:32| would you say that sure so so the revolution that Henry Ford started was that he he found out there's massive turnover when you have an assembly line and people do work that is technically
00:31:46| not fulfilling because they're doing one little thing it's not intelligent and it's displacing skilled workers then he said for every good every one for every were full timers he would have to hire
00:32:04| about a thousand to make sure that they could be replaced and actually keep them so there's a huge ratio of people that would just turn over they just constantly move through the assembly let
00:32:16| me go yeah come Akama comin comedian that's always right about Henry Ford people coming and go come and go this long I think it is but not sure that's what that's what they wrote about I mean
00:32:31| it was a sad time but whoever wrote chameleon knew that Henry Ford was trying to find a way to make to make history to make change in the labor world and would you say he found a way
00:32:44| to do it with these assembly lines so he did two things what to do some days yeah replace them with machines not at this time Oh initially initially he did he raised
00:33:01| their wage and he made it like ah my man multiples more than what it was he enables them to buy their own product that they were making so it was a multiple on a multiple for him so he
00:33:14| could make it so that his own workers were buying his product but also making more obviously because now you have people are buying it yeah and to retain more of them he changed the workweek so
00:33:24| instead of six days 48 hours now five days and 40 hours which a lot of people claim you could probably work only three days and do the same amount of productivity are you talking about
00:33:39| someone famous I think I think someone who's mentioned this later yeah the moose wing gets a winner we probably will he's crazy I think we will we can skip quite a head so the next cycle
00:33:57| revolution is the third one which was computer and automation which was very recent it was rich I would say I kind of began in what you say like 1980s but would you it's called I didn't come
00:34:16| across it as a revolution which is what's catching me what was the revolution what where where did something change eternally like no more do we have registers punch out not the
00:34:27| right number for change when we hand them a 20 like a lot of the machines prior to our digital revolution were analog or mechanical so you have devices now that you can reprogram pretty much
00:34:40| it will and then we have them do very defined tasks tasks plural tasks I understand mm-hmm yeah this I mean I think we lived through it okay we're aware of what I
00:34:56| think we digital revolution is everything's digital no were you getting in it yeah everything is now programmable you can make it so it's interchangeable and there's things for
00:35:08| pretty much anything I don't know that there's a robot out there that can do all of human beings possibilities all capabilities words are plants learn robot to water our plants I mean it
00:35:21| wouldn't look like a human but it would be able one behind you to do somewhere I'm just saying I don't know I would cost money which is a big problem with robots isn't it yeah I
00:35:41| guess that's so the initial capital is start a factory with a lot of robots if you were to like use Tesla's experience he adds it's like billions of dollars multiple billions of dollars to do it
00:35:51| so the controlled wealth of like the United States like they say like the top controls a majority of wealth which is absurd it's like the ability to build these factories that then control the
00:36:05| future you can do what Henry Ford is that you set your own price and then sell your goods to your own people and boom you've just dominated the whole world boom
00:36:15| folks what I find is that a lot of these things we were talking about are on I'm trying to find the right wording here because we're talking about automation and a transition to and then I'll make
00:36:30| it really relative stage that good we're on computers now that are connected through a network of things that we don't see it's all digital we get video and audio we can record it we
00:36:41| can save it locally we can stream it to eight different places and then shoot media it's all relatively free and cheap yeah on banners calm it's pretty incredible so this stuff we just kind of
00:36:53| grew up in and you can't even imagine going back 200 years where you didn't have play you didn't have paper yeah everything you know after 6:00 p.m. we
00:37:04| got no lights you don't have any lightning bring a torch you don't have screws or anything you don't have a screwdriver because they didn't machine it yet it's like how do you get how do
00:37:14| you make you can't make your own nuts and bolts at that point your system that's just not suggesting incredible hmm you want to talk about I know you do
00:37:22| you're waiting for me that's two robots of the future I'm not what I'm saying is for everything we do there's a trade-off for everything we make with a bunch of
00:37:32| screws and a set design of places and you know set points for screws to go in that we can use our screwdriver I can't item a item of the exact same design a chair before this IKEA chair
00:37:46| was probably made three times better it probably costs four times as much that whittled away from a bonsai tree trunk even if it was holy shit that's better than anything from Ikea
00:38:00| right it's more durable it lasts your a lifetime a hundred percent do you need that there's a reason I didn't say it I'm making a point here yeah there is a trade-off for everything there's a
00:38:15| trade-off for every single transaction we make in life for every action there is an opposite but equal reaction I would say so when we talk about stuff being easier to make stuff being cheaper
00:38:38| limited I mean through a degree to a degree if I said it sucks 1% more but it's still very much usable it still sucks more would you agree which is worth the trade-off I wouldn't say it's
00:38:51| not worth that trade-off but I would say it sucks more I know you want to argue with me no we're gonna get to one real later on how machines are the worst it they so they did a thing with um goddamn
00:39:09| we're skipping right to the end here I'll get to this later you could skip to that actually you can do it you do it okay I do like AI related stuff yeah so AI related stuff
00:39:19| versus human stuff huh they surmise and this was on I don't have the actual website I can pull it up we really need to but um the AI has taken over advertisements on our Facebook
00:39:37| everything like you know Jing what you like because of what you've done in the past and it's providing you saying it's using an algorithm it's gonna figure out what you grow so do you know what it
00:39:50| does it creates an advertisement that's designed specifically for you and you're gonna click it and you're gonna buy everything they friggin say except AI robots computers are actually really bad
00:40:04| at this they hear what you say and you might say the word sweatshirt hoodie whatever and they'll show you some hoodies you know like that's where I said hoodie and you will never click on
00:40:14| it in fact the success rate for Facebook is close to 0.9 percent of all views result in a click of those I couldn't find the actual information that resulted in a
00:40:27| purchase probably 0.9 percent of them interesting but well interestingly enough it's probably really cheap to send all those ads algorithm doesn't work right so of course you like you
00:40:41| know 100 bucks they send out a couple million at least the average human went doing these ads to targeting them reaches point zero five percent so robots are better right so I'm gonna
00:40:58| bring in our own stats here robot noises robots were almost twice as good at making you click the ads but that twice as good is the difference between under personal salesman that would come up and
00:41:12| say hey what are you really looking for do you think you'd be more fulfilled you think you would have more clicks more sales would what's are they calling me are they showing up at my
00:41:25| housed on your screen imagine it's not like oh excuse me sorry I know you were searching for top and dolphin nudes are you sure that you want that on the sweatshirt
00:41:38| okay nice except for you I said I want three of them anyway no no uh I don't think that would help either there's a reason it's less than 1% so there's two things here there's so I have like
00:41:54| YouTube stats of our own channel and we have what are called impressions views and then clicks which equal watch time and right now as it stands there were someone's seeing now or it's like Siri
00:42:12| on a speed or its appeared on something it's appeared on a page about somebody to do something with if they see it or not doesn't matter so of that there's a 1.5 percent chance
00:42:24| that they actually click hey we got a that there's 640 views okay which then converts to watch time in minutes which is pretty low which is like 2% like as amount of watch
00:42:43| yeah it's 2% so thanks folks thank you at home folks so you're filtering down like this giant bucket of people down to another little tiny bucket to a tinier little bucket
00:42:54| but it's all automated do you care that it's the computers wasting energy and time because it's not your time no no I I came down with a rule of thumb to go by machines robots AI are very good at
00:43:15| and actually will do good at UM amplifying the human experience so they they make us communicate better or faster or stronger or two more people at once
00:43:27| they help us travel faster or two more places or whatever at once and lastly they help us with strength and speed of a job like there's no way I can lift 400 bales of hay
00:43:39| and do it into a machine everything I think machines are great at that they always have been I think they always will I think what people think of when they hear machines are taking jobs is
00:43:52| they think eventually a robot could take don't have done your job and it's been a fear for the past 15 years now we're putting it in the past five years though because that's like Oh a eyes come along
00:44:06| oh the Google's trying to get people machines to drive and you know what their success rate is 99 point something percent without an accident pretty good problem is where's the
00:44:20| liability lie on the one percent on where they crashed and crap there's no person where there's a crime being committed what happens there you killed a person Google who goes to
00:44:32| jail huh well it's a robot there will always be a fear that robots will take our job but a reality that I doubt they ever will but what if there's a fewer percentage of accidents because of it I
00:44:47| think it's a good idea and I think it's a good tool I think it points us in the right direction I think machines and robots and AI help point us in a direction and help guide
00:44:59| us I think they supplement the human experience I don't think they ever replace it I mean good so one of the things I read about in I guess factories is that they have like PLC so they have
00:45:13| programmable programmable logic circuits which are like sent boxes that do a set task whatever you want them to do same thing with like FPGAs which are field programmable gate arrays it's like a set
00:45:24| logic on a sitting thing so it will take care of the monotonous stuff for people who are operating a large plant per se mm-hmm but when those things fail and the person who's operating it hasn't
00:45:36| done those tasks in a long time it makes them almost incapable of performing those tasks even though that's their job does that make sense they haven't done it so long I mean no it it's it used to
00:45:48| have 60 people doing this job now you got two robots doing it if one of the one two of the robots goes down or there's a virus or a programming error well now
00:45:57| you don't have 60 people who are willing to do it you have two or three who kind of know how to do it and they haven't done it in so long yeah they have to remember how to do it
00:46:07| also the criticality of tasks that those people have to do is much higher it's the test that humans have to do because it's so important that a human is involved yet those people are not as
00:46:19| involved in the whole process and they're not as attentive when it comes down to the criticality of it it's interesting it's almost like you would take it kind of light-hearted because
00:46:29| it's your only task it can't be that difficult but it's the most important one it's the one that they wouldn't give to robots but they'll give to you because you have intuition or logic or
00:46:41| something I guess well I I actually would agree that you have something um so there's a website where the cool robots take my job maybe they actually I didn't write down the website because
00:46:51| it's so common I think it's cool robots take my job right this is an interesting website yep that's exactly what it is it's called world robots to take my child google it type in your job
00:47:05| description start to start to type in and finish it what do you want me to put in my job or your job do yours because I actually wrote down a couple that I have results for you Oh what yours might be
00:47:16| project manager something really I'm gonna put stupid rocket scientist I roast a Sinjin ears let's put that one job in I'm totally safe Wow hmm that's pretty good let's put in yourself what's
00:47:39| what would you call sales management I don't know tile you know retail sales persons I'll just put you in that one sounds pretty lame retail sales could be something boring like toilet paper
00:47:56| that's true which i think is very replaceable i think the current job I have is kind of like you can I tried to put marble in there but I'm gonna call you I'll just say you're a
00:48:09| stonemason because that sounds cooler that's not it so if your stonemason there's actually huh eighty-nine percent what is this alright so I did I found the highest and lowest
00:48:26| numbers I actually could although yours is actually one percent better so arbitrators mediators and conciliators are roughly four percent actually where'd you say yours was heiress made
00:48:39| anyway the lowest number I found was arbitrators mediators and conciliators they're like a four percent chance at being replaced by robots aerospace engineers have a two percent chance of
00:48:50| being replaced by robots I thought about this actually is that the highest number I thought do you know what the highest number a ban was being replaced yeah now I just I hit random until I found a high
00:49:00| number it was pattern wood pattern makers especially in would cause a good machine could find a pattern and just cut the wood in a certain way ninety-one percent chance of being replaced I was
00:49:13| thinking about this for like AI I was like one of the most fearful professions is probably like let's put in like doc burger flipper try burger flipper now I tried burger flipper dude sued burger
00:49:25| bun dude sir that's what it's manual isn't answering also like waitress or waiter waiters and wages you think the highest number you could
00:49:39| find on that is it says you are doomed oh yeah that's what the pattern would make er whatever highest percent for what ice what do you think the highest percent we could find is I'm kind of
00:49:50| curious what that trucker cuz that's the one that like causes the yeah it's a weird one that's Freight stock and movers material handers 85% my hand that's a little lower I don't know what
00:50:05| does do you know what the highest one is no I was I literally clicked random until I came up to 91% on pattern pattern makers would I didn't even come across the 94% you came across for
00:50:16| whoever that was wasn't weight yeah yeah I was with a burger flipper I'm telling you it's burger flipper now for literal thing yeah I don't know if it is that's like 100 percent right so
00:50:26| there's uh there's the factory side of it which is meat poultry fish cutters and trims oh yeah yeah what's that at well then something is like 99% but anyway I got so I thought about this
00:50:44| when I was at jury duty earlier this week if you had an AI that was a lawyer and that was your public defender it would probably act better than a normal public defender I'm giving
00:50:56| it a zero I'm I'm going away from it yeah wait did a public defender yes yeah I guess then a free one yes it would act better than a free one I think cuz a free one would have human elements that
00:51:08| would mess up I think a good one that gets paid that I'm going with a good one now what was the ratio like a normal public defender has like over a hundred cases at a time right at that point yes
00:51:18| I had a percent agreement and imagine an AI that could pull up a specific case and look at this from the 1939 and give you some yeah or tell you that make sure you don't apply because your device a B
00:51:32| and C I'm done I just don't think it would actually be able to find things that actually relate because it would be like this person was a chicken cutter this person was a barber this does not
00:51:43| relate like I feel like machines are extremely limited if we don't give them all the inclusions ahead of time so part of it you're touching on is called what's parsing and lexing so there's
00:51:58| like a program called antler which was another tool for language recognition I believe and the whole goal is that it would parse these like sentences normal human sentences and make it so you can
00:52:12| understand the connections between the different words so they can then extract understanding so that's your whole goal in what you're saying that's failing if you could understand human speech and a
00:52:25| computer could then take that and process it and then respond back to you and some of these programs do it but not to a level that I believe they fully understand it I don't think
00:52:38| they'd be good at it because they're parsing speech that's from the 1970s let's say like if we're looking through a stack of information that's really old there's no way anyone is at the time or
00:52:51| at or ability to incorporate all the language everyday use and colloquialism from 1970 and how they might apply to language now especially because that program is probably at least a year old
00:53:04| at this point and has not been replaced yet so I would just yes if you were looking at laws from the 1970s and deciding whether they apply or don't apply it would a computer really be able
00:53:16| to understand whether it I don't think they could I think they would on a basic level but if you were comparing a burger flipper and he ran into the same crazy occurrence that a lawyer in Detroit did
00:53:29| back when he was you know on a parole board serving for a guy who was committed for double murder but it turns out you can't be tried for the same like there's too much work going on yeah for
00:53:42| the robot to look at in fact he would probably skim over it yeah there's a fixed knowledge that I think a robot would be able to look up but if there's logic that is outside of the normal
00:53:52| processor outside of anything that ever happened before a human being should be there to be able to figure it out and then leave the case to wherever it needs to go so will a robot replace me what is
00:54:05| it called what is that website I just closed it okay will the robot take my job on States it's cool will robots take my job is a cool website everyone should go there check it out type in your job
00:54:19| see if your gonna replace and I thought Dan it's cold it's ruthless like this is like the future we're all afraid of a little bit except that at the bottom of every page they talk about the book
00:54:31| they're selling it's called robot is the boss and they're selling it for x-men $1 and that's the whole reason for the website and I thought I found a one percenter
00:54:41| hydraulic hydrologists the research and distribution of circulation of physical properties of underground and surface waters the study form and test see precipitation its rate of infiltration
00:54:51| of the soil moving through the earth and its return to the ocean and atmosphere okay well then it got me thinking because the guy wants to sell a book it's really the whole goal of the
00:55:05| website so kind of took away from everything I read I was like well maybe they are just guessing in the dark almost island represent mmm-hmm so I did a little research and we're doing a lot
00:55:20| of research into robots I mean technology everywhere industry is looking into robots we're gonna try and replace people especially like high-tech ones that can open doors do multiple
00:55:32| tasks at once be trained um the latest that in 2016 put it eleven point three billion dollars was putting the robot research and technology that's a lot of money trying to mimic the human brain
00:55:47| that's not right until you realized that also in that same year sixty six point seven five billion were spent on just pets giving enough food and homes and really cool cute stuff and I was like
00:56:01| yeah that's a good point but pets have more intelligence doll then the current my I it's it's it's a real weird thing so people are also afraid that the robots will take their jobs and then
00:56:14| eventually we're all gonna be out of jobs service workers truckers everybody else so wired.com did a a paper on a study that they didn't do this study it was a over seventeen countries in 2016
00:56:29| any time machines new machines robots or technology was introduced to an area it reduced the hours or the people in lower wage jobs uh-huh whether that was riveting or people who would just move a
00:56:45| piece of pipe somewhere to some cross or solder or something or just check something or break somethings down they lost hours it made it harder single who didn't have
00:56:54| enough money to begin with it did the really poorest people were doing the most menial manual labor jobs the interesting thing is that almost almost all of these companies
00:57:06| it didn't affect overall human hours so apparently they had to hire more people to check up on this stuff more people to work on the machines more people to make sure the machines are running smoothly
00:57:20| and more people so Spurs higher education it does the higher end jobs are Mealing middling if I was cradling middling middling jobs end up being more in demand so robots don't actually take
00:57:35| it away um here's another example 1970s the ATM was invented Oh the ATM the world said oh my god they're trying to get rid of the bank teller this is disgusting I like teller machine
00:57:49| several scientists surmise by the by the said holy shit so I did a little research there are still bank tellers in fact between 2000 and 2010 the number of average bank tellers per Bank rose they
00:58:10| surmise that over the next 5 years it's going down again like we're gonna go down on bank tellers like those do with eight hands and more to do with online banking and people can just do it online
00:58:22| ha I'm tellin posit I mean so what I found is that what I mentioned earlier robots help us do communication faster travel faster strengthen speed jobs faster but ultimately those three things
00:58:40| I just mentioned are the things that modify jobs communication travel speed and strength of work so like it's not that robots are gonna take the jobs it's that robots will help us do a job
00:58:52| quicker so there we don't need 18 people to do a job because now I can do it quicker we don't need 18 people to lift a stone because I per robot go a little quicker so robots can help us do
00:59:04| something quicker and that's where the jobs suffer but new jobs arise hey I'm a robot checker you no no no yeah it's the checkout line at the grocery
00:59:13| store is that if you have a go ahead please please tell it really exactly what you texted me about a month ago what was I forget what the time all right I'm gonna demand this Dan has all
00:59:25| these groceries on pattern oh yes yes list and someone comes out from the ounces please come over here I can help you but then and Dan Phil would grow home like thank you
00:59:36| finally oh my god then he comes over here and what happened she told me that I could go over to the self checkout lines and help myself quicker oh and I was like why would I do
00:59:47| that it requires me to do more work and then I was my head I imagine you came with all this food he came into the aisle I found that it was a self checkout aisle they're like oh that's
00:59:58| not good and then the person who referred me to the aisle is somehow not there doing anything walking away nice day sir thank you unskilled labor you'll your job will disappear soon I hope
01:00:12| [Laughter] really like what the heck why would she come over to tell me that I could check out by myself like you don't need to tell me rude yeah it's rude it was a
01:00:24| little bit rude sir sir you could go fuck yourself thank you very much I mean she controlled it roll me you could do this better if it was you doing it I'm like I know that I'm well aware lady I
01:00:46| don't want to well aware I'm tired of this shit so do you know why um robot suck oh boy that's uh right here it's right here hands and yep pinkies its hands because they can't do a robot is
01:01:05| not designed to be a human being it's designed to do a task it can't do all the tasks and there also isn't a general AI that can take care of all the human tasks this man went in a general AI
01:01:17| multitask use of the hand not creating a robot to be like a human because we don't want human replacements that's a good we just don't want a point triple-threat so robots robots suck
01:01:29| because they don't have hands I mean honestly the craziest thing is we've had hands for hey as long as I've been alive so at least 20 30 years and we've never been able to recreate a hand really the
01:01:43| funniest thing is when people create like a robot they can hold an egg and it's like yeah except an egg and places in the bowl without breaking it you're like dressing craziest thing I've ever
01:01:53| seen so really robot just was told to pick up an agate point X and place it in Y without breaking it I mean I could teach my gun to do that what if I asked you to throw it across the room could
01:02:09| you do that no you couldn't do the robots we create now are very specific they have specific tasks they're built seventeen scientists work for six years to make a robot that can walk up steps
01:02:26| and it's like whoa they're gonna replace this it's like don't ask it to walk straight or do anything else it just walks up steps okay so I won't I don't know how de all that bites I'm just
01:02:38| gonna say it's not gonna get yelled at by its wife walk backwards down the steps and carry a basket of laundry there's no chance to nail exact shame I can't do that robots can't do that but
01:02:50| good camo Boston Dynamics whoever they showed like robots they're communicating and opening doors and then saving people and like carrying them on their back yeah hold on it was two robots the dog
01:03:00| who can open the doors and the dog wet the hand attached to its head who could open doors do you know if I changed the height of that doorknob by six inches that robot wouldn't be able to open that
01:03:11| door but you've seen the flea flicker right the one that can jump like thirty feet the one that um yeah it does the somersault think that yeah it does like a backflip almost all the way well I've
01:03:22| also seen that one eff up and just land on its ass like 400 times because it screwed up look do you know I mean like these robots that we see video of it's like
01:03:32| this is crazy it's gonna replace humans any now no that took 19 years buddy to do a back flow my got one shot of it we got the back flip down it's not gonna it's
01:03:44| not gonna go into work get yelled at by its boss you know like going to the back room do a Jo session like I don't know like complex very complex actions we initiate - it takes so long to do in
01:04:00| your defense for the reason that we wanted to act human well that's ridiculous it's gonna take millions of years for us to make robots act like humans because
01:04:11| that's how long nature took to make humans right I disagree I think it's probably within a hundred years that we're gonna have Rome Jesus Christ you sound like the guy who told me there's
01:04:20| gonna be flying cars or that ATMs are gonna replace bank tellers it's bullshit I don't know if you've looked at like the map of the internet which I'm gonna click on right now so people can see
01:04:31| okay I have to bring it up if you're telling about information moving very quickly which i think is the greatest achievement of humankind not robots at all robots suck I will say hey I saw
01:04:42| Elon Musk was all about like the transmission of information he said that like humans are too slow to input in information into a network and that robots will pretty much get frustrated
01:04:54| with us so I have the map of the internet which actually is kind of impressive you have these little linked nodes that are kind of like central on each other like themselves and like they
01:05:04| look like okay I would say like you know those uh dandelions yeah exactly so you have little dandelions floating in the middle of this giant network that actually looks a lot like a brain so if
01:05:17| you could harness all the knowledge on the internet and make it into a robot that understands the way humans think feel and all that sort of crazy stuff I think you're on the cusp of having some
01:05:29| sort of crazy AI that becomes you're including all the Pepe memes on the internet you're including all the workout blogs on the Internet you're including all the people that say you're
01:05:40| a robot you have muscles you're including all the blogs that say you can feed your autistic kids bleach too to heal them like do you know that's the thing like that's awful I don't disagree
01:05:51| but I'm saying then you have to make modifiers who tells the robot what's right what's wrong then you have to modifiers who tell the modifiers what should be right and what shouldn't be
01:06:03| wrong robots are only ever gonna be as smart as we tell them to and we are not smart we screw up all the time we're idiots we're passionate people I think you in a
01:06:14| previous episode tried to show me robot art it was garbage let's try I think he tried to show me robot music it was trash and it took millions of robots
01:06:25| firing off axons and research and development teams and all this stuff to make this music and that's the thing humans will always have the edge hmm I'm just saying because we create robots if
01:06:40| something else came to be that had nothing to do with us I don't know I can't tell you we create robots and we suck click it's not like we're gonna be like we've created the perfect art we've
01:06:53| created the perfect music we've created the perfect algorithm to see justice we don't even know the answer so how could something we make using all of our knowledge surpass us not to mention our
01:07:08| knowledge changes day to day a robot has a robot that is strictly dedicated to facial recognition takes our greatest processor snapdragon whatever I don't know the number it can it can recognize
01:07:23| a face in any circumstance do you know what it can't do it can't add math while it's recognized in the face it can't recognize two faces at once it can't do two things at once can you
01:07:35| recognize if two faces at once and do math at the same time you know dude I'm always checking out hot honey's across the room I'm checking out who's walking in the door I know the smell coming from
01:07:46| the back rooms tuna fish I'm like I know who dolls make it a tuna fish in the back I know I gotta close that deal in the next five minutes I get a granite deal in 40 minutes the feel of the floor
01:07:55| Tina I'm saying a robot can't do any of that stuff robots suck hmm in my opinion I think they do one thing really well and we think they're
01:08:03| the bee's knees I think sometimes they do two things and we're like this is crazy but ultimately they don't they literally do what we tell them to do and then we say there's
01:08:16| learning robots they're my favorite this learning robot will know language better than you try and talk to it and I'm like hey Susie you're fucking loser and it's like don't
01:08:26| use language at me and I'm like you're a freakin loser and she's like thank that's not nice and I'm like great learning robot like do you mean there's something these
01:08:38| robots I can spy robot a mile away I spot all these inventions ten miles away and they all kind of they look like hmm they're like yeah they're not that good the
01:08:52| targeted ads on Facebook they're not good I don't think that they could be get better I just don't here I read an article they had what robots will actually need to
01:09:06| surpass humans and become dangerous and take our jobs right the processor that's roughly ten thousand times greater than what we have possible unless you listen to Moore's law right which what they
01:09:19| double right they double up to a point where their heat capacity yeah this is I think that yeah the size of the energy that you can move is limited by the right I think we move on we haven't
01:09:32| peaked where I was gonna keep getting better but we're not getting a peak on actually they're number two we need a network that's light speed it constantly across all circus whether it's in an
01:09:44| individual or across individually getting these tasks from I read it on a whole article that was like a science journal today or something no science journal today it was literally a science
01:09:54| when I look it up anyway it would also need to be nonstop it's not down for repairs it's not four hours a day whatever doesn't sleep for eight hours like hour all the human beings on
01:10:05| the world you listen man it might need to especially considering the next two battery life there's no battery that can eat replicate even close to the human
01:10:16| capacity it's like it's a ticket joke what is the human capacity if you don't get in any input if you have no water or no air how long can you last I think 40 years
01:10:28| so people have surmised that if you were to send something out of our solar system it probably isn't human because it can't survive that long but a robot right so the life that be transmitted
01:10:39| from University universe would have to be robotic I don't disagree but I think it would suck more like you imagine it feeling like this is our representative of humanity it's great it's just it's a
01:10:53| robot be to work sooner it can count to that's cool can I do anything else and you're like it can open a door if it's exactly the right height the handle should thing and you're like it's good
01:11:06| so let's talk about the things I'm done uh-oh so I'm part programmer so in the beginning I wanted oh no I should own programming in this guy's a programmer and I shouldn't have done it
01:11:20| so in the beginning I wanted to like a poker stats so I could like tell who like what are my odds of winning this hand at this table with X number of players with these types of cards out so
01:11:32| I figured out yeah so I figured out when to play and when not to play that was like the initial like I could out edge people at the table by understanding just percentages permutations of
01:11:45| possibilities as most people don't understand that yeah I understand and my card left the amount of cards on the table the amount of cards available in the amount of cards it could flip yeah
01:11:54| it's dedicated to a number or an idea of a number it's not actual science it's just more of a educated guess it's not a guess because you can get four fours in a row even though it's not it's a
01:12:06| percentage chance of happening which is bet on accordingly if people are intelligent enough to know the odds and it can still land on four fours in a row yes would you could lose but if you were
01:12:19| to play the percentages you would make money over time if you had a hundred years and 100 million dollars if I'm going to the casino or one robot that would play online poker for you
01:12:31| multiple times a day on multiple tables all at once you don't have to have all the capital to give it though wouldn't you I mean if it was winning if you could figure out the horizon where you
01:12:42| would make money and you could outlay enough money to make more money than you could continuously do I bet I guarantee there are people out there that had bots that were doing this making money off of
01:12:52| human players that didn't know the odds and they probably made okay boat loaded you can make you can make some money off of human players in a game yeah but I feel like there's a reason that's not a
01:13:05| popular sold item or even a multi-million dollar sold item where are there are overlays to tell you the percentages I doubt anybody that's making money would tell people that
01:13:16| they're making money that way because it's frowned upon but it's achingly gonna get banned like bots are bad but it could also make money off of it they could make em says they could make if
01:13:27| you could make money on something it will sell yeah but do you think people were really talking about it would they really bring out that they're using a you know legal man who can play
01:13:35| thousands of games that wants to couldn't you smell that for 10 million dollars if you only sold that three people if you made it that public if you showed off that you were doing this
01:13:47| you're also sitting on a platform that is controlled by somebody else who can then ban you or ban the process that you're using sure so if you play the exact mathematical method well and are
01:14:00| winning do you think that maybe the company that owns the process is going to say this is a bot because it's perfect it's a perfect player this doesn't happen so I'll get into I'll get
01:14:15| into my whole spiel here is that I've done this for a multiple game so the poker one was just a program to figure out what the percentages were I've done it for like Diablo 3 I had somebody run
01:14:25| through a bot that would run through actually I'm like three or four different characters and they would gather money so they'd kill things they pretty much banned the map and walked
01:14:36| through the map and then collect all the gold and then I tried to sell the gold to other people for cash and they busted me because they watched what my players were doing which
01:14:46| was not human-like and they banned me on one of my accounts I had like four accounts sale he didn't get the other three though would you make money on the other three I stopped because I don't I
01:14:58| didn't have the heart to keep going it's not it's not a big moneymaker like I wouldn't have made like thousands of dollars on it it would just been like a couple hundred and at that point I was
01:15:09| like tired with the game I wanted to move on to other things I could have made money on it if I had stopped running the bots while I was trying to sell the gold that I amassed and even in
01:15:22| that vein there were games that are set up such that you can't win I was like I had the best equipment that you could possibly buy because I had an endless amount of gold and I still couldn't get
01:15:32| through the entire game because it was does is designed to be bullshit I got mad in the middle that sense maybe to stop robots may be to stop BOTS yeah cuz you're only the bots are at the
01:15:42| end it's the same thing with media and Twitter finding out that like almost 80% of accounts are probably bought related I'll keep going past I was thinking about it path of exile if you played
01:15:58| that it's like a diablo clones yeah I also made like a group of things that would a group of things were characters that were auxilary to my main character that would support me as I
01:16:09| play through the game so that was like when you need a group of like six people yeah if you need a group of six people to help you through a game you could just bought the other five and they'd be
01:16:19| better than human players they'd be reliable and then all of the items and whatever you collect is yours so there's like a domination effect there taken about it responds you're thinking about
01:16:32| it yeah they're way worse than human characters but I will say keeping all six chairs hell yeah yeah there's no way that humans would be worth five times better than there's something that you
01:16:46| do notice when you get that much that many items and you're collecting all that stuff is that their little management becomes very tedious and you almost have to have a bot to take away
01:16:55| any human aspect whatsoever care to carry some of the good to sell it all just get rid of it and just be like I'm done with this game and this moves on to something that you know very well
01:17:07| clash of clans you saw what you saw my bot in action it would provide evil with donations whatever they asked for definitely helped in the donation is a hundred percent mm-hmm
01:17:18| it would be learn it would also fight it would do visual recognition so if it was trying to fight somebody you could tell whether it had a lot of working in the race our was there the difficulty it
01:17:31| would look at different types of bases and say did I win on this old base do I want to attack this base what's the chance that I make money off of this base they would take all these things
01:17:40| into account that a human player could never take into account in like the what you have like 30 seconds to determine whether you want to attack it it we do it like I will interrupt you and say
01:17:49| this a human player could absolutely determine all the exact same things yeah the problem is the human players not running 24 hours a day on multiple computers on it right that's the benefit
01:18:01| so the benefit isn't skevur ility yes scalability which again goes to amplify amplitude I spoke of earlier I don't think robots are ever good at half the things but they are good at
01:18:14| amplifying things hella good that's a that's a pretty sweet deal actually when I think about it typing in 3 2 1 1 2 3 and then doing art saying yeah that was whenever what do
01:18:26| you want want and you could spawn a troop and you would feed you that truth which is that's it was good and I'm trash don't bet really sweet sweet badass move so there's a key element to
01:18:39| that that made me happy is that I could actually help somebody immediately rather than in the olden wood days it was like an hour wait for certain things I could just be like here
01:18:48| it is I already had it for you and you asked for it and here you go so cool helping people is really my main driver it was amplifying again amplifying robots or a light all that stuff is
01:19:02| incredible amplifying I think it's unmatched there's no way to stop there's no way to be better than it no if you really if I really develop an AI that's one of the things I want to do
01:19:12| is I want to develop an AI that will play any game and then use it as like a beta tester like hmm sell me like like give me your game before it gets released and I'll figure out if there's
01:19:23| any bugs in it by using AI to determine how to play it and bug testing there's only one problem it's not gonna be a smart Azima player no it's not smart it's not gonna be as mistake-prone or
01:19:41| there's a quality that humans have like um like when we play it on fable back in college yeah remember fable yeah open-world like you could marry people you could grow you could turn evil you
01:19:56| get some fat you can be skinny you can be good you could have a halo you could have different titles like there's this very customizable game I don't know that an AI whatever um get as fat and is
01:20:07| horny as you could write a thorn I think you could oh no no no no I understand no you could and then do the two good deed tasks marry the woman from the village who used to call Tom chicken chaser but
01:20:21| will roommate and he married her bought a house one of the middling level houses he didn't buy the cheapest house he didn't buy the most expensive house we saved up a lot of money he bought the
01:20:31| house he moved in with her which you can do with your wife if you married her and he found a way to hurt her it wasn't you couldn't hit her with the sword the force push which is like one of your
01:20:42| magic spells could actually hurt her and he killed his wife and she wouldn't stop laughing while he did it cuz he hated her guts he didn't really want to marry her and I don't think a robot could ever
01:20:55| do that I can tell it to do that it would never naturally do that it would never understand the emotional implications no it doesn't understand that Tom just
01:21:05| wants to marry her so that he can kill her because she called him chicken chaser at a game and I couldn't explain that to a robot I can make the robot do exactly what I said
01:21:17| but it would never decide to do that and I still don't know if it's an error in the game or not that anyone you marry you can't hit with your sword or fireballs or anything like that but when
01:21:28| you force push them like you forced them away they hit the wall and take damage and so Tom's wife took so much damage she died he killed her and he couldn't stop
01:21:41| laughs in the video game in the video but just wild stuff and here I have a list of things that robots don't do that people do robots AI everything you name AI I have art because I think robot AI
01:21:59| art sucks it's never going to be as good as Led Zeppelin I will say that would you say that that's questionable okay it will never make mistakes the way people make them I'll give you that even
01:22:13| replicating itself isn't that the whole reason DNA is still around we've replicated ninety-nine point nine percent of our DN a and the point one percent we don't is intentional well it
01:22:23| may not be intentional at your son of us get cancer but listen it also is the reason we've been around for billions of years right yeah true another you have all the possibilities and then if you
01:22:35| did a hundred percent replication every time you'd end up with the same creature and every kind of died out because your functionality is the same correct so oh yeah yeah the way AI makes those
01:22:48| paintings is that it takes paintings that are from a previous period tries to match them and it has another AI to say I'm gonna be adversarial and counter you and say this looks too much like
01:22:57| something and then modify in and then so it's a back and forth on things that already exist so an AI is not going to say it looks like a 19th century painting with adversarial bullshit
01:23:11| decision-making right all right there's another thing that I thought humans do that AI robots can never do they outperform their abilities true you can robot that's like wow that robot
01:23:25| went above and beyond and did more than it's even capable of that's insane you see this in quartz there are people who can extend hitting streaks do 10 times more in the
01:23:35| clutch the it's hard to explain without getting emotional right now robots are bad at emotions another thing is sex I think the sex robot thing we talked about is gonna be
01:23:47| shit and anyone who has sex with the robot might as well just hump with the county deficient in some way yeah honestly you're literally humping a couch with some synthetic fibers that
01:23:59| result in skin yes and maybe a voice box that could say dirty things would you be cool with and don't get me wrong I think they should make sex robots if they're free I'll check one out and that's
01:24:11| dating but it's never gonna replace human sex you just can't I mean I guess if you're getting sex non-stop from a robot and it's free you might think about never having sex with
01:24:23| people but guess what would happen you would grow tired of that sex and want that sex you can have I agree the human nature is that they want what they can't have
01:24:32| if they get something Komachi mom she can - and lastly I want to leave us with one thing that machines at AI will never build a duplicate friendship and I think that's something there's never gonna be
01:24:48| a back-and-forth like the others I just don't I don't think so well they will the solute in the internet they can research it for future topics although they're not gonna get it
01:24:59| they're not gonna get it right I guarantee the iteration all the points they're gonna be awkward stilted back and forth between robots arguing and they may be like these two hated each
01:25:10| other I'd be like no they loved each other hmm so I want to do though it's like a beautiful sunset and there's gonna be a robot version of a sunset but like green
01:25:21| tint around some wheels where there shouldn't be squiggles yeah tell me just close close just not yet what do we cover we talked about labor that's it and botting revolutions machines
01:25:41| machined items textile a on James free time workweek with hours weren't work weeks you on Musk's Lonnie a work blood i3 heel on Musk's but most three-day workweek we talked about a
01:25:59| computer Y robot suck my robots rule Boston Dynamics robots we talk about friendship PLC mrs. Warren FPGAs PLC's ah we felt that there is no general AI yet and what's going on mm-hmm
01:26:13| and my robots don't have hands that match our own hmm hands which are tactile manipulative interactive with robots and human reason okay cool covered a lot yeah I mean yeah
01:26:32| my brain it's just feels like someone just pumped me full it's nonstop pump me right in my head right into your skull sack yeah so thanks for watching thanks thanks
01:26:47| we like you folks if you're human or if you're a robot yeah we work out an algorithm we like you a lot bellisimo what he said
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