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00:00:01| have you ever wondered who you are who you are to other people what other people think how you act what kind of bucket do you fit in what is your personality type
00:00:12| what do you like to other people in your daily life when you're at work from the nine-to-five to other people see you as a different personality have a listen and enjoy
00:00:27| so I'm Dan and I'm Nick both for old friends dissecting one topic at a time people technology media we've got it all covered each discussion here is a deep dive in or unique perspective the taboo
00:00:42| forbidden subjects they're all on the chopping block babies we don't pander to popular opinion this might even get a little bit dirty morning this podcast may contain mature language and sexual
00:00:54| content and is for entertainment purposes only so join us have a good time it does doesn't it it gets me in the mood every wow wow wow wow talk about personality types and you're
00:01:39| referencing an old episode which i think is douchebag no I'm Ashley referencing an old episode called jobs employment and I remember one commenter said I look fat in my old shirts so I was proving a
00:01:54| point and that same commenter dill dork 44 I'm calling you out buddy he said I couldn't even tie my own tie he figured and I figured if I just showed up with a tie
00:02:07| on he would think I had my mommy do it and I just you know she was the second over again when I was like in first and second grade I used to do that we say more in high school yeah no no I knew
00:02:19| that I buy high school yeah did you use the same time over and over again I different did you yeah throw it over my head rest on the car and I pull it off and just tighten it up like an idiot
00:02:30| all right you know yeah our friend over here has just started a new job you're trying to impress people that we're tied my job now I'm like Howie hey like that trying to show that he is that dildo
00:02:44| work 44 both sensitive and assertive and listening and commanding at the same time it's very difficult to do how it is yeah you're very sort of with your your affect but your whole personality is
00:02:57| very soft and gentle Oh interesting I can be a daddy how are you saying or a sub I don't I don't know what that means really what does that really mean we're not gonna get into it right now well we
00:03:12| will get into though is that uh we talk about the different kinds of personality and how they were grouped before and how people thought other people's personalities were generated well sure
00:03:25| that's literally where I was gonna start oh wow yeah I was actually gonna say hey how are you doing dad oh we doing well we don't have as much back and forth discourse some that people want to make
00:03:34| sure you're okay I'm fine okay I don't care you're okay I know you're okay Nick you like sports okay yeah I will say thank you stop talking bad me I'm sensitive I like
00:03:55| to stay on the wall I like to be a Wallflower please do not point out any of my personality traits I get nervous when people talk about me but that Eagles game the last throw when they
00:04:07| gave him an extra fifth time down baby I hate this stuff yeah that's good well we gotta crab that was terrible I had heartburn blood pressure issues I was drinking too
00:04:20| much which led to me drinking too much more it was a weeknight we just terrible I hate the Eagles hmm being a fan of the Eagles means you hate them more than anything in the world and
00:04:31| they make you curse and scream and drink too much and do terrible things and throw furniture and you freeze your blood pressure and you scream at everyone and that's for a win and every
00:04:43| I understand yeah did you ever try to climb one of those greased light poles I would have I think we discussed this back when we were doing the podcast and they won the Super Bowl I don't know if
00:04:55| anyone heard about that but I 100% if this was six years prior I'd be in the epicenter of all that crazy stuff um with the kid now he's really slowed me down he's ruined my game I would throw
00:05:08| so many glass bottles I would break open I would break open a Brinks truck I would I'll break into it and it's not even for personal gain I would start throwing money in the air below so happy
00:05:21| [Laughter] destruction of property that leads to happiness I can't explain it I wonder if a Brinks truck has ever driven through a riot before anything another riot yeah
00:05:42| throw those money bags up outside there so let's talk about humor ISM which is one of the previous thoughts about how people generate their own personalities or where their personalities come from
00:05:53| and it really comes from their fluids there's four different humors mm-hmm it's not it's not semen no blood yes no sweat no piss nope bile bile you got one there's two different kinds of oil so
00:06:13| you got actually you got good blood black bile black bile and yellow bile and yellow bum that's what I said I was getting there and do it in a planet so the most deserves no he comes from yeah
00:06:30| well a lot of it has to do with like melodies so if you're sick and one of those things are not in the right proportion as I said back then yeah he would have some sort of malady so
00:06:39| they would drain them or add to them and try to manipulate what's going on there so that's actually the precursor to modern medicine because they wanted to remove your phlegm when you're congested
00:06:50| they wanted to modify your blood if your blood was lacking iron or something they try to hype you up by giving you certain herbs and the herbs would make you feel better so it would fix your personality
00:07:01| by making sure you were medically sound so a personality is really just an imbalance yeah well I guess in today's society you can just take a pill and you can be whoever you want right with
00:07:15| neutral I do though it does neuter you I would say yeah not neutralized neuter has a better word for it mmm exactly yeah so there are different temperaments attached to the blood the
00:07:27| yellow bile the black bile the phlegm anger or blogs got an anger in it doesn't it or is that black bile it was a it's weird so they have like seasonal they have
00:07:38| seasons ages elements organs qualities and temperament so the blood is actually spring the ages infancy so young vital vitality and the element is air the organ is liver cuz the livers pretty
00:07:52| bloody moist and warm as the quality they had different kinds of like what you would do like if you were like clammy they try to like dry you up and warm you up so they do things to you so
00:08:03| moist and warm is blood and then your temperament sanguine mmm sanguis didn't wise and calm or something like that same I mean at the wise are enthusiastic active and social
00:08:15| Wow my talent is that vitality so the other ones were choleric which is yellow bile melancholic which is black bile and then climatic is phlegm I don't know I'm curious what telematic yeah how do you
00:08:31| define flow-matic it's relaxed peaceful quiet and easygoing because they can't talk really because they're flah Matic oh I'm wearing green is I mean I'm climatic I think I can be 4matic
00:08:42| you could yeah yeah I think Nick over here he's always so flah Matic man it's phlegm manic let me show you let me introduce you let me slap this tile for you
00:08:56| you could fit 20 NICs right in this tile right on top of this tile just slide it right on give it 20 personalities in this bad boy mm-hmm so that kind of focused in on
00:09:07| personality types which I think there's too many too too many people there's two main people Carl Jung and Jung Jung yeah I'll say his name a bunch of times so there was like a rational
00:09:22| versus irrational and then extrovert versus introvert and then you also broke it down into four different areas sensation intuition thinking and feeling which also kind of plays into the
00:09:32| myers-briggs types which were psychology today on a myers-briggs on Psychology Today tell you that folks extraversion introversion sensing intuition thinking feeling and then judging perceiving so
00:09:46| of counter types like how much of a percentage are you towards which type right so you have to be one or the other uh-huh and I mean we're in the mail in between with that that's those are the
00:09:58| two pillars not pillars mm-hmm it's like a seesaw right word yeah yeah you're either one or the other yeah you're teeter-tottering towards the wean I guess you could have both hmm
00:10:12| and this is one of the one of course you can't I mean you could be right down the middle and then be crazier or you have both of the like what was the one extrovert introvert I guess that's
00:10:23| someone who's equal parts going out going but equal parts doesn't want to be outgoing it seems like contradictory that one I'll give you something anecdotal which is mainly my life is
00:10:34| that of the introverts I was the extrovert so I always had a group of friends where they didn't know how to interact with a group of people that were at a bar or a club or a new party
00:10:45| and I would feel like I had the onus the onus was on you yeah the onus was on me to go and say hi like crack that she'll and then the other ones they'd slowly fit into the police leather I could see
00:11:02| that it was difficult because I'm not your the party of the knot partiers Canada exactly that's route 2 but yeah I know what you're saying yeah
00:11:10| which is it's a tough spot to be in cuz I'm not like I'm not usually that way but if you take away the other introverts yeah as a lone wolf I'm I'm kind of that way like I'm allowed to be
00:11:24| whatever I want to be I'm not carrying people on my back to do it he's right but in the group you were almost like the most extrovert yeah the most like capable almost about
00:11:35| to do this someone's gotta do it I'm interesting cuz I would almost say on the opposite right not really well like I figure like I'm in very social circles like at least through
00:11:47| grade school and stuff and like not jocks but like you know people who think they're the cool kids but at the same time I loved nerdy stuff it sounds like not nerdy stuff like you're the nerd
00:11:59| east of the jocks yeah like and I love nerdy stuff like video games and like being in doors and science I will give that to you cuz I didn't know that you like video games more than I do actually
00:12:10| you play more video games than I I can right now and I think well that's that's again it spots me yeah but I think I think you do it as a choice you have options of doing
00:12:22| whatever you want and then you choose video games whereas I I'm driven elsewhere right you're very uh work centric now aren't you too much I need to make money so I can retire and then
00:12:32| be old and then not have any I wish seaman was one of the elements it should have been more testosterone hump let my aura get that aura pumping are you gonna do then finally play the video games
00:12:49| yeah I guess I guess so and not having a cell phone I'll be out of spunk monk that's definitely a bile that no one talked about you're absolutely right yeah
00:13:00| when we talk about so both both of us took a test we both did the myers-briggs test which has 16 different personality types based on the four different versions okay yeah I'm gonna was this
00:13:12| website with 16 personalities calm I believe 16 personalities and it was you're absolutely correct so here here's my breakdown folks as usual hmm yes yes here's my breakdown introverted
00:13:25| intuitive thinking judging well hold on because we're doing a new inclusive thing where we work together with the audience and everything I want everyone at home to take the test with us
00:13:35| so there's 16 personalities calm that's right yeah no calm you got a 16 the number right the number HTTP ass and then Cole and go there clash let me do we we gonna be WWE World
00:13:50| Wide Web not the whole thing's iced you do is you use to letter don't use that one mm-hm when you get there look around you're gonna find the quiz you want to take it
00:13:59| you don't have to sign up for anything it's like free uh-huh now everyone home please listen along good take it well uh it's yours we'll wait right here until they're done
00:14:10| and they're done oh that was quick all right great oh that was a curl so might might rates which is a different version of types so they break it down differently its myers-briggs but we'll
00:14:25| come back to traits because I think the traits are actually more accurate than types come back to that later so my traits are introverted intuitive thinking judging sort of which makes me
00:14:36| in their terms the architect type which is like a planner somebody who's prepared someone who's who's I said thinking that's not the right word but it's like a I guess so they're like
00:14:48| weighing vase on intuition and not for based on like sensing or feeling or emotion they're kind of like calculating which makes sense I'm a confident individual yes getting back and I think
00:15:04| it deleted my test oh do you want to click on you can go to the different types you were a hammer time I could read off yours oh it's just one type oh hey cool I thought it was differences
00:15:19| with air in about cool I got campaigner type folks campaign I am I assumed extrovert yeah extrovert and for new intuitive intuitive feeling and
00:15:34| perceptive I think that intuitive like I don't know why okay they just pick then all right who cares intuitive um what was the f1 what's the unlike feeling a feeling folks and
00:15:47| perceptive one do i from - an A and a myosin T bad because you're not assertive or maybe you are sort of home no I'm not assertive there you go that's probably what that is a figure of the a
00:15:57| is and - no you just said assertive right well I think you can be either or like mine is on another tab or I think I'm the assertive type so I was the - a which makes me sixty-three percent
00:16:12| assertive never mind I'm - a for though the - a we're assertive look at us Wow whistles yeah don't assert up guys what's the yeah it drives me nuts what's T ah see I hit back too many times
00:16:27| literally I was trying to get to that page that you're probably looking at with yes yes yes yes yes so there's a balance there where I understand like my own type I guess but my type kind of
00:16:41| changes day to day I mean it's based on your movie really and then yeah you interact we have you ever taken these tests more than one time I have not this particular looking a personality test
00:16:51| like three times in a row I think it was like a teenager I was taking a sex 102 sexy I was or something and don't get me wrong there are different there's different validity levels to each test
00:17:02| you can take online some of them were absolute bullshit some of them are pretty good but um I think depending on your mood how you want to answer some questions like there are somewhere
00:17:11| depending on what hour of the day it is or how I perceive the question I could answer sort of agree to like I don't diss it I disagree have a night to slip up yeah I think I could do that
00:17:23| I mean there's some I wouldn't change at all I'd pick the exact same circle but some of them were I was like kind of neutral I was like more yes or no I can change so the - tea was turbulent so
00:17:35| it's like kind of like wishy-washy unsure sensitive self-conscious ease of chaos there saying I'm an agent of chaos they're saying sure hmm I love it so what was your time again it it was a e
00:17:49| something here E and F P a yes so I looked up the percentages of personality types and you are about eight percent in the population here that folks eight percent of me how you folks like
00:18:09| that huh yeah for every four view there is one of me so mine is only two percent which is kind of I never thought about this before when someone says what your type is you think you're just like
00:18:21| relating to other types sometimes there are four times as many types as there are you so yeah I mean the maximum is like 14 percent so if you think about like how maybe isolated I felt at
00:18:37| certain periods of my life it's probably are I was yeah because the the common personality types that are also introverts they don't know how to like sync up they don't know how to talk to
00:18:48| each other they don't know how to share all of those things that your their thinking so there is no like community there it's difficult mm-hm and if there was a community there it would be
00:18:57| overshadowed by the you know multiples more of you or the other people out there that are taking over the spotlight they're taking over all cities you're dancing around it like you're tap
00:19:09| dancing around it with brilliant shoes and flying around the audience the flower just ha ha but like also being around an extrovert for an introvert it's probably makes them more
00:19:20| introverted like these personality types or none of these personality types are in a vacuum I mean they're constantly around the other people right well they probably become more introverted around
00:19:32| extroverts most of them I'm not saying all of them but let's just say like that's one assertive people probably come more assertive when no one's challenging their assertiveness like do
00:19:41| you don't I mean like there's levels that are in check within the population but around certain personality types they take off yeah there's probably like an interplay there like I think if I was
00:19:52| paired with you in a social aspect you would bring me into the party and then I would no longer be and hurt it you won't be there sort of dick I know this guy yeah I would I would
00:20:04| just shade into the background suddenly Dan's wearing the same color as the wallpaper yeah just getting here like this dan your shirt looks like the wallpaper
00:20:16| but your skin doesn't you do it yeah chameleon party that was pretty metal I would actually appreciate that reminds me of a book Perks of Being a Wallflower that book actually emulates I don't read
00:20:34| it though never do you watch another I know I know Emma Watson and other people and it's definitely been on my TV I didn't pay attention to it I don't believe in the suicide what not I don't
00:20:45| believe in the suicide portion of it but there's like an attempted suicide that doesn't relate to me but the wallflower part where you're like confused don't know what to do you're alone I
00:20:54| understand that portion mm-hmm just be sensitive and feel intense which is not part of my architect nature movie do you think you're not feeling that's the thing if I come up with the plan on
00:21:10| my own it's very strategic and very I guess cold-hearted and straightforward but if I get down to it robot yeah a hundred percent so if I if I'm talking to someone in there having an issue like
00:21:21| my first reaction is the computer yeah no I think the opposite Oh until until I get past the first wall and then I didn't care I'm that's not about being right or wrong it's about making sure
00:21:36| that person is okay so there's no like you're like you're like trying to win the game I don't know I'm trying to extract the most happiness and fun out of the game as possible it's like a
00:21:52| syringe I'm just like I got this fun and I just stick it right in my neck and just Bioshock baby would you probably have gotten today I've gotten some injections okay done got some injection
00:22:06| all right don't they k for completing so you know got a new job maybe I to take it chill with bio shop okay yeah yeah you want to go through the positives and negatives of what you
00:22:15| found out your personality we're actually is so like mine is then I have to go through the ranks and witnesses you know I lost that page when I get back and I can't get it anymore I'll
00:22:27| just hit the I'll have the bullets you don't have it okay you can keep you can do actually all right good I commanded strategic self-concept competence independent decisive
00:22:38| hard-working determined open-minded and a jack-of-all-trades which is accurate for strengths actually that is pretty on point but it's a little vague it's a lot big yes I yes I'm curious observant I'm
00:22:56| not energetic and enthusiastic I am excellent communicator yeah know how to relax and very popular and friendly I actually imagine I'm the most popular
00:23:10| person at most of the jobs I go to most popular yeah you know self-proclaimed of course obviously but you can tell when you're like do you think like the worst person a job goes in and they're
00:23:25| like I'm the most popular guy there and they shake their shoulders like that's the move at least popular person does well baby I'm the most popular guy at A&E and they go ahead and sounds like
00:23:36| man we hate this guy I want personality type that guy is yeah I wonder can you look through the personality tapes I want to figure out on the is this Briggs Meyer yeah I can look at the so me the
00:23:54| like rundown of the 16 different categories that they have on that let's go here's the architect though love the brainy one who's like kind of like the
00:24:04| planner and the dreamer is that what you're gonna yeah the logic person the commander the debater commanders a jacket gerbils the commander probably as a boss people around
00:24:15| yeah advocate the mediator these are the diplomats protagonist campaigner did you dip it's been sentinels the logistician the defender the executive and a console
00:24:31| console free is that it's a someone who's carrying social popular and always even without the Terkel negative nope nope nope explorers the virtuoso the adventurer the entrepreneur and the
00:24:46| Entertainer so this is the interesting part and sound like jerk-off no well they're gonna spin it in the positive method but I can see I get C battling with the defender or a commander yeah a
00:24:58| command or uh what's the other one the boss executive or something like so the Entertainer is something that is it's funny I didn't get that role that's interesting hmm
00:25:11| well they are completely opposite of what I am every category is the opposite which makes sense I'm entertained by them and I enjoy them but when I try to talk to them it doesn't make sense yeah
00:25:26| it doesn't make cuz nothing of my ideology matches up with what their ideology matches up with it makes sense to me hmm and that also yes strengths and weaknesses for your your own class
00:25:41| here yeah I was gonna say that the Entertainer actually out of albers me for two one two as well so it's pretty crazy what number is that what percent bucket eight percent um close to my
00:25:53| number huh entertainer going up against the campaigner does he want do you wanna play chess they don't Blake checkers look like it bunched up so yeah like all all the kids watching today yeah try to
00:26:06| keep it keep it wholesome I'm trying to keep it hosel just a campaigner folks do you want to hear my weaknesses I know them but yeah okay I'm arrogant judgmental analytical overly so I loathe
00:26:20| structured environments and I'm clueless and romance romance maybe not I'm romantical structured environments though I do we have a special guest on hit your wife
00:26:34| I don't think she'd ever make it no I don't think it I don't think she wants to be on this no I'll take your girlfriend listen y'all have to see their magadhan yeah week campaign
00:26:52| weaknesses I have poor practical skills wrong I find it difficult to focus in correct i overthink things false I get stressed easily we're actually probably a little false highly emotional that's
00:27:06| bullshit and independent to a fault it wasn't listening I was doing my own thing yeah I agree with one - and the last one yeah I could see that yeah make sense the structured environments thing
00:27:19| I could definitely it bothers me a lot to be in a structured environment today I want because it's a waste of time you see it as a waste of time exactly I went for jury duty today I've been waiting on
00:27:35| it for so long it was that's like that's the whole reason we have a podcast so you can say hey jury do the other day it's like a Jerry Seinfeld intro yeah jury duty
00:27:45| oh boy so you essentially we waited all day find out that we didn't have to do anything yeah because they plead out they pled out six hours I wish you he should listen to the episode where we
00:27:57| talk about plea deals versus don't get a jury yeah judge juries like 80 something percent guilty versus a judge which is like 60% guilty so you go to jury you're fudged thank you hardcore right in the
00:28:13| blue tang itch so that was highly structured and I think I'm just sitting there biting my tongue waiting and the weird thing about jury duties that you never know who you're really going to be
00:28:31| judging they don't tell you unless you're actually there so there's 60 people waiting on this one person to take a plea deal and those 60 people don't know what they wasted their
00:28:41| entire day for they don't know what these being judged for what day I mean that's kind of weird I don't know can you oh yeah I guess I want there to be a reason that I can
00:28:52| link to for why I spent all day and but please internet like a car accident like you sit in traffic for like 40 minutes because there's an accident up ahead and everyone slows down at the accident cuz
00:29:03| I gotta get lanes and you're like this wide up frig is everyone gonna slow down look at this we could be home by now oh my god that's a leg and so I can see his leg slow down take a picture run in your
00:29:17| car and take a picture at the same time oh my god this is great and then you get past it you're like I friggin hate traffic is that as you're posting on social media I'm gonna get so many likes
00:29:30| on this one get some hits on this bad boy I actually saw a really bad car accident on Delaware do you know Delaware's the worst state car accident you go to Delaware and it's
00:29:50| like I went on vacation down there one of the beaches like in Rehoboth area check it out folks you want to Rehoboth robat Rove the beach no it's like it's like ten minutes away claimants actually
00:30:03| about 20 minutes away because Delaware's all highways huh so you going to Delaware and it's like it's flat it's just the flattest stupidest State there's no sales tax you can't even I'm
00:30:15| trying to put this into words but like any spike in your life is like interesting like I said whoa I can't believe that happened to him whoa he had to pay sales tax whoa there's a mountain
00:30:29| here Delaware there's no whoa you don't pay sales tax it's like you buy a computer for like $7.99 back in the day that's it there's nothing extra you don't go to the register and you're like
00:30:43| oh my god I forgot we're going to pay extra for sales tax that everyone's going crazy and you're crossing your fingers it's not too much because you're not doing the math that quick you're
00:30:52| like please please please please please please please we're counting on ya not Delaware Delaware they're like $7.99 you're like oh no plus tax what is it they're like
00:31:04| that's it and you're like really and then you drive home and you can look everywhere you can see the whole state at once it's like very flat hmm like the biggest thing is the buildings and the
00:31:15| buildings all suck so it's like weird yeah it's nothing like a big trash pile or something you drive through a new work um but the reason I got into this whole story was because we were driving
00:31:30| and it's like it's just highways like hello where's highways and then superstores like it's like a Taco Bell and every whatever McDonald's a target like you just drive down highways right
00:31:40| you go to superstore so you went goodbye it's a big square yeah yeah I saw the most awesome wreck some dude somehow in a three lane highway of Route one he must have been trying to make a ride
00:31:55| somewhere I'm not sure where he must have hit a sign that runs into this like super mall and he hit the sign spun around a closed super mall cuz it's like it's got like 50 stores in it yeah I
00:32:06| know shamrock okay okay so he hits the Sun and one of the buildings towards the front is like wasn't the Bank of America it was like some kind of bank or something you know banks are always
00:32:17| towards the front he spun landed into it and reverse and just slashed his car and smashed the building and smashed the sign and smashed like traffic everywhere who is so awesome we're slowing down
00:32:31| look and I was like oh damn it made my night um there's the highlight of my vacation are you trying to look at yourself in the eye a m-- why am i half the screen shouldn't I be the whole
00:32:41| screen I'm not watching a twitch I'm talking to you in discord yeah but you can make me the whole screen in discord why am i does it say that in campaign I mean really I like to see myself you're
00:32:58| lucky you're not smaller than me when I look at this I would be like well how do I look right now I gotta pay attention to my look people watching this video might really be
00:33:10| interested in the way I look tonight mmm defamation you're perfect I have a broken nose okay folks see ya that's a deviated septum I broke it an OPA the concert we're not gonna get into
00:33:21| it tonight my sunglasses when they sit sometimes sit like this I look like an angle that's a campaigner thing okay so I have to constantly overcorrect my nose sunglasses issue so I have this big so I
00:33:36| can make sure my segment is look fun so conscious now taking them up all right thank you I had acne all week look I'm like 30-some years old got acne how does anyone there this is stress no it's
00:33:50| because I'm Italian okay I have oily or skin the most individuals but the good news is I won't get as wrinkly and old looking as you may be I mean I'm simply the only miss generalities dad's
00:34:03| Italians are oily ER so we're assignments that's what I'm saying like ariana grande let's go away no because what would you say you're not Italian you can't say this so you can say that
00:34:15| ariana grande is gonna stay it's gonna stay beautiful and young skin's gonna look gorgeous forever because she's Italian and not Hispanic is she Italian she is Italian
00:34:28| hopefully smooth I just read a thing where that guy who died blamed her or people are blaming her the was that the preacher that touched her boob no no that was me was it Mac Miller oh he
00:34:44| didn't he had a bad life he did well here we need the whole episode on what his life was good or bad did he make more money and touch more people and work with more people than
00:34:56| maybe we ever will if he dated ariana grande he had a pretty good life oh my god I'd seen your YouTube history back on track because one of the people at home were like I didn't listen to them
00:35:11| talk about personality or personality traits so they've kind of said that personality types are kind of bullshit actually because you're like a certain percentage yeah
00:35:24| okay I was like 60% something and like given day it could be either/or but the trades actually kind of lined them up so they're openness to experience which makes sense whether you're curious or
00:35:36| cautious Briggs Myers or someone else I don't know who actually said these uh okay that's fine it's just not Briggs Meyer it's almost not yet somebody else okay so they're saying personality is
00:35:46| broken down to openness to experience that's one big piece right yep yep and then conscientiousness oh how much you feel the world is about you versus the worlds about someone else yeah since the
00:35:58| me efficient organized versus easygoing or careless conscientious do they have to be at odds um I I think it has to do with like the perception of other people's perception of you so if you
00:36:10| feel like you need to be in a certain state to prove yourself to others then your dollar yeah don't look over there so if you don't care what other people think of you you're careless or
00:36:21| easygoing or disorganized that makes sense actually mm-hm and then extraversion which everyone kind of agrees introvert extrovert
00:36:29| what are you right right there's no getting around that one no one's kind of agreeableness like how good you are to other people or whether you're gonna be a bulwark they're gonna be difficult so
00:36:42| this goes back to one two picks ago like it's a little bit like how much you think you're important portents egotistical where's another person yeah yeah yeah a little bit and then there's
00:36:54| neuroticism which is exactly egotistical which is you being so nervous that you can't control yourself or you're secure and confident that you will power through any situation would not to throw
00:37:07| back or put pressure on it but Carl Carl Jung Jung Yong Yong I don't know it's a both Keys AJ and Y at the same time Carl Jeong Jeong Carl Jung Jung Carly um there I said
00:37:28| this is out really if I swear there he was more was the introduction himself personally no no his own thing there's no boy oh boy oh boy I'm sorry too hash back I was trying to compare it
00:37:45| to what we just talked about he does have an extrovert and introvert in hey that was like definitely singing okay that was you know those big ones mm-hmm it's weird that that's seems to be a one
00:37:55| that runs through all these right yeah whether people are going to be outgoing in certain situations is really what you're trying to figure out not even certain situations just what situations
00:38:06| people tend to be outgoing in like you saw with beige that's exactly what I said you're saying like in certain situations but I mean there's a situation every five minutes like will
00:38:19| like fart on a podcast yeah I would fart our pockets I don't know that it I probably had that next revert thing right I I don't know I mean I'm alone in this room I guess but am I alone in this
00:38:44| if you're in a crowd of people do you still fart a room full of people not usually I mean I'll hold it in and that's like what's the situation looks any people so
00:38:54| like how many leaves cuz like a fart will go back up and then come back out and you'll be like no like how many times you hold it in cuz I usually get to the fourth or fifth time and I'm just
00:39:03| I don't I don't get waves like that I know what you're saying like it'll come back later but um if mine disappears then like who by the way you'd be like you're like I'm not in the same place we
00:39:15| met him I'm still in the same elevator button then we're all stuck on here we can't I think this there's treasure there's throw our hopes closed or closed or
00:39:37| actually thinking of do you know I did right before the pike and started there's a new video game out I know you don't stay on top of the stuff called scum I heard about this they had a
00:39:47| tattoo on the guy's neck you can poop poop and pee and throw up so the new thing is it like a world you're like in a world with other people doing the same thing yeah you can yeah and you can hear
00:39:58| all you getting creepy and yes so hold on I only got to see like 20 minutes of footage because I was trying to jump around I wanted to find someone hard on people or poop on people but
00:40:10| anyway it's a open world survival game it'd make millions oh it's like the game what's the one we played not that by daylight the one before that Carsley bar thank you
00:40:21| it's like that but it's your prisoners and whatever and you got tattoos and your and it's like a little bit like meats pick up PU BG with telecom play around in battle gram okay because
00:40:33| there's all these people and you have to you know get armor and whatever it's the cool thing is you can poop on people and pee and throw up like these are bodily functions you can release your bladders
00:40:46| full desert as Vantage to doing it one percent faster well it relieves a pressure valve I guess like if you don't pee at all like you're in trouble I think you're in trouble but I do this by
00:41:08| accident dad joke that do anyway we got on top of a little bit but yeah I can't wait I felt it would be such a great episode if we could poop and pee on things
00:41:22| you're the extrovert you can go right ahead I will keep that to my private self Brad brings us to the word of the word of the podcast what's the word the pipe yeah uh surgeon see so trait aspect
00:41:40| of emotional reactivity in which a person tends towards high levels of positive affect which means they're they're a affect their persona whole in which they affect other people
00:41:52| not affect they affect with a big a it's how much yeah it's there their face their posture the way they present themselves to others I see what you're saying yeah so this respect by Bourbon
00:42:06| good so surgeons see a little bit you are a surgeon see is the way that people like interact with the other people so if you're highly Sergent than you're you're coming off it's like someone
00:42:16| who's very confident and very self-assured and then you're also saying like you're like happy and all those positive things all those positive things are showing to the other person
00:42:25| so people with high surgeon C usually are extroverts and they like the people okay that makes sense you're trying to show people you're happy you're trying to make people however you're trying to
00:42:34| give off an air of happiness or whatever it might be yeah unlike most of the women I've dated in my past they have very I'd surgeon see towards
00:42:46| me they've had a negative em effect effect hmm that's all could be the subject matter they're dating but we're not gonna get into that mmm yeah so how long pause long pause forever those
00:43:06| listening Dan was flexing his chest area it looked like he gained a tiny bit of weight but I'm a muscular nerd now isn't that the hottest guy Chris Pratt oh I don't know that he was a runner yeah he
00:43:23| was on Andy and uh he's kind of a goober oh okay goober is different you know we do our zone that igress hmm so what do you you were gonna leave into something and I know what it is but I'm gonna lead
00:43:41| you into what you're gonna lead into your report is there you go workers know so workers um I feel like we all see these quizzes on Facebook we see them all over the world you can huffington
00:44:00| post buzz I found the first one on BuzzFeed it was ten types of the worker that every office has and it's like oh here we go again like that aggression that feeling
00:44:11| yachting is that an emotion that's an emotion yeah I think so for most people I mean 30 percent of buds ah did you come almost that number did you use my number please your number goddamnit he's
00:44:23| good number before we started airing thirty and eight percent of people worked for corporations so that means thirty eight percent of people working like an office setting with more than
00:44:34| twenty people it's like I work at all this side of the cube oh I there's a mailman there's a guy does this there's a guy do this like that's its bidding business to find roles CFO yes define
00:44:45| roles for everyone anyway once we go into one of these businesses which is apparently almost just under half I mean almost forty percent right yeah but people are singing a podcast many of
00:44:57| them are probably involved in these giant hive corporations right okay how they're part of the conglomerate or they have no like Rocko's Modern Life man this is like so depressing is Lama Lama
00:45:10| yeah we own you is Amara that's a good motto no we own you they used to make everything from A to B in Rocco just do whatever they told them to do and it was always stupid or didn't make sense that
00:45:24| he did it anyway those highly structured environments that I hate I'm open the boss is always spitting and yelling I feeling like okay he was a toad or something right into giant lips yeah yes
00:45:36| and the cigar yes yes not to be confused with the big heads who live next door to him which were frogs and we're always freaking getting busy edie and bev bighead might have been the
00:45:49| horniest cartoon couple a full time I'm just saying this because I tried to research this online but I feel like it bad was always like Edie mm-hmm and blinking her eyes and I'm here
00:46:05| raising of his voice I feel like they were always inferring that those two banged like those two were non-stop banging and they were ugly they were out of
00:46:16| shape they were they weren't beautiful in any fashion of the word well they're that's what made their love more beautiful and pure than most others it's the overtones and undertones at the same
00:46:31| time yeah it's weird because like I would never look at them as like inspirational or attractive or the subject matter I want to discuss on a podcast but when you think about it ed
00:46:47| embeds big head they begged for us the children who watch that cartoon this kicks shebang for the children hashtag bang for kids oh man every corporation that has employees which is
00:47:17| a lot of us we all work in corporations and tell me guys I get it to work with over 20 people we all have these these are the type so we all work in a corporation I got the ten types we all
00:47:32| work with Oh number one the Swamp Thing oh he's so busy oh yeah I got paperwork I can't talk right now I got stuff to do I can't talk right now I'm real busy can you do
00:47:45| this I'm busy that's swamp there I got everything on my list but my two little to-do list my my board has just got stuff all over it so uh
00:47:54| number two's my favorite cool boss we're cool as in quotes amen I don't have to wear a tie I do this hey I'm like you you know damn I just make twenty thousand dollars a year more I
00:48:11| don't know why we go to meetings man it's stupid but anyway if you would fill out the form and say I didn't sex Ashu that's great cool boss says things like hey you into 50 cent I saw him last
00:48:28| Wednesday at the mall he wasn't rapid I just saw him at the mall but he's that's pretty cool that's cool boss I mean chef Michael Scott were level but not yeah there's a little bit
00:48:39| of money Michael Scott is cool boss number three oversharer you know god I'm number four I gotta give one-speed some credit usually they're all their articles of
00:48:49| garbage and this one's garbage too but charlie brown noser i see what they've been there the office comedian guy who tells it like it is he always raised his hand in a meeting
00:49:04| and says I gotta say it like it is this is my favorite one number six weird IT guy like in all these Lister's IT guys a weirdo why yeah there can be weirdos
00:49:20| anywhere Linds I agree take the whole IT department next we gots a Danny Glover which in the quote says doesn't have to be black doesn't have to be Danny Glover doesn't
00:49:33| have to be an old man but usually is older and usually says back in my day we didn't have these dang emails I'm getting too old for this login stuff yeah I'm like I can see number nine we
00:49:49| have the gym rat the guy who's always will be too in shape and is going to the gym after and before work everyday and so that's not really an office based one that's a just universal yeah it is
00:49:59| no no it's office base because he comes to work and he's always getting changed back into his office stuff and you're like no one else is getting changed here chase no sweat in the shower - yeah
00:50:08| you're like you're in damn shape dude stop taking off your clothes at work and last but not least is the social director socialism caps because they're so over the top getting that softball
00:50:19| team together trying to get a Saturday night plan together you know the office Olympics yeah yeah yeah you know which is this list is good like yeah we can kind of get there like
00:50:32| SOI googled office types lol best of like office type 25 office type 20 office type best of office type I started googling different things because I like to yeah you poke around
00:50:45| mess around so then employment hub Co which is a UK simple Co they came up with a 15 type that's at every job and I'll just run from the quiet one the moody one the
00:51:00| dream crusher the talker the honest Joker the office scapegoat none of my business one the cooler the big surprise used to love him now I hate him the slacker that eater the hard
00:51:14| worker to motivate her the responsible one and boss's pet and I was like okay that's probably good list - I mean right yeah yeah it's pretty good list it is so then I I came up with a 23-point list
00:51:31| like Jesus Christ so lists for everything this one was on oddly the Odyssey online.com number one the self elected dictator of social enrichment the NARC the partier most hated the
00:51:46| overly entitled one secret mass murderer the whiner the ghost the grandparent oversharer drill sergeant the master date the mass dater the pledge the brag or the
00:52:02| optimist the gossip the next Bill Gates the wild card the gym rat the comedian the hotness the eye candy the perfect employee and it occurred to me looking at all these stupid lists that they're
00:52:20| all the same damn lists right pretty much you're going more than 16 types so at some point the types are kind of overlapping right they are I would argue that they can overlap at less than 16
00:52:33| and it more than 16 somewhere in the same range though you can't go you can't just keep going eventually you're gonna name the same people you can but I mean the mass murderer is similar
00:52:45| to the wild card right if you're convinced murderer you quite certainly are a wild card no one saw that coming you killed people I guess so borrowing some traits but that's also that could
00:53:00| be the bragger actually I doubt it that's fine it's gonna be the most hated though oh it could be the most hated right yeah I don't know just like it's hated in the office when you say some of
00:53:17| these it reminds me of specific people that I can't bring up one for my dearest oh okay that's right do you know all these types it is true was that you're saying so like probably like 70% of them
00:53:29| I could link to people of course it depends on your office setting right thinks your office setting your office knowledge if you had been bounced around to different corporations you probably
00:53:41| would inter counter most of these people whereas my past 10 years or so have been spent in like the same type of AUSA's office setting and I've been in like maybe three or four different offices
00:53:53| with people and there were I guess visible what you'd say like how close I was the close proximity I probably close proximity to like maybe barely remember the ones in the
00:54:08| beginning so probably more like 20 so it'll make a weird argument anytime you work in a place has over 30 people over interaction that allows you to get to know them all so I mean that's just
00:54:26| logic right think Malcolm Gladwell breaks it down to you can't no more than your best friends at a certain time yeah a certain time so like they design new kid do you have the new your kid
00:54:44| take care but no but he says they design like military units and like business units to have no more than 150 people so if you're interacting with more than hundred 50 people you're gonna forget
00:54:58| anybody that's 150 150 250 people at your job you don't know all of them well you're probably like the facial recognition I want to mean now yeah sure facially recognized but you don't know
00:55:12| anything about the person like dude do you know anything about the mail guy at your job how many people actually share their personal life that's the crazy thing is that you go around a corporate
00:55:18| environment no one ever talks about what they really feel like there's the oversharer which will tell you that but then the other personality types will always be other type personality types
00:55:28| that won't beat on the campaigner type okay mm-hmm but I would argue I can figure out a lot about people just from John my five-minute interactions with them I'm not asking them what's your
00:55:38| personal life he'll never say that this on this illusive man that's weird but I get to talking about about the Eagles or something like that and I'm like hey what's going on in would you do over the
00:55:47| weekend look just something like that and be like ah you know I got a I got a dog he's he's gonna die oh I'm sorry I didn't I didn't know a you had a dog can be that it's dying
00:55:59| I'm really so like I just found out my coworker like who I don't know and don't know if he likes dogs or not his dogs dying and all but I'm sorry he said we're gonna put it down this week
00:56:10| and I was like that's great that's great what do you say that's bad but good oh good on sorry but what I'm getting at is you don't get to know everyone in your office even if it's 50 people so would
00:56:26| it be easier to remember them as a trope or like a build up stereotype that's the nerd that's the office slut like that's that's the goofy guy who always says the funny thing like it's easier to do that
00:56:39| isn't it songs were aimed at that time I'll bring in something anecdotal here is I worked in an area that probably has a thousand people working but in my like the vicinity of people I deal with on a
00:56:50| daily basis is probably around 60 or 70 people so uh I mean I don't interact with them and I don't know very much of what's going on with them but even when I leave
00:57:00| and I'm walking around I see people that do not interact on a like a visual scale so they're not even like receptive to people being like looking at them and saying hi how are you like it's very
00:57:12| weird that like people would be that close like walking by one another like senator wise yeah they're not even there like mentally they're checked out so you can't even if I wanted to I could break
00:57:24| I'd be like hey link lean into their like view which is down on the ground and be like are you hey how's it going hey ya know float down but you don't you just can't break into people's like
00:57:42| stream of consciousness it doesn't it doesn't bode well I mean you can but it most people in my vicinity that are probably more introverted probably won't appreciate it
00:57:51| maybe that's what I do better than anything in the world do you break into people's dream consciousness and then maybe I know that sounds really weird and they're like something but my
00:58:01| favorite thing is like when I'm at a new place like this I don't know anyone the new job I just started like I can't tell if someone's a boss someone who's like way above me someone who's below me so I
00:58:11| was on my level someone who's new someone who's just visiting and wearing a suit I think it's no way for me to know I'll be like yo you guys catch that earlier like a Hyksos old cat they don't
00:58:24| like cats in here good I'll catch you later man and then I'll walk away like that's it that's no wonder I didn't really face god I just wanted to start a conversation to see if he was like cool
00:58:38| or not like you imagine feels like they don't allow cats here I would know all I know about that guy like I'm good but he was like understand I want to see if you're cool you're cool I see if there's
00:58:53| a way you just II throw random stuff at people and you can tell if they're interesting or not that's what like for me in an office setting boils down to whether you're interesting or not and I
00:59:06| wish the fluid this is why we work and this is why we work together way this honestly like I enjoy when people break into that stream of consciousness and then say something ridiculous and
00:59:17| then I'll respond to it with something equally ridiculous or more right you have to sir I mean life's too short just keep doing the same thing over and over right so many people do look down floor
00:59:28| and keep going like it's stupid it doesn't seem like like you're missing out on opportunity maybe and I'm not saying you got to be best friends with everyone else but at least like throw a
00:59:38| weird question at them so I've got anyone I've been doing this weird thing so like I'm in a weird phase where I'm like stretching out and spidering out and I've gone on LinkedIn now and I
00:59:48| started friending in like before like LinkedIn would be like do you want to add these 200 people you don't really know but are in your email list I'm like no that's weird it's weird now yesterday
00:59:59| I did it I was like 20 people people click and I was like let's see what happens well anyway my value with my LinkedIn connection with you just went down yeah
01:00:16| right cuz I'm like wow he's not unpainted and isn't linked in with a lot of people this guy must be really Noah guy now they look this guy connects with friggin everyone people too many people
01:00:27| the weird thing is that I can now look at people that are like responding and friending me and I click on them and then I'm like I look through their list computer their stuff yeah and then I
01:00:38| could be like I knew that person like 10 years ago I knew that person and then I friends mm-hmm this is still like post college like when I first started my career
01:00:47| because I worked at the same company for that long that like I was like this person quit like when I first started I remember them and then I friended them and I started talking to them and I'm
01:00:55| like this is like bizarre is like welcome to oh yeah who said me cuz I'm initiating I'm the initiator in this this whole thing because they're looking down at the ground are you sure you're
01:01:09| an architect it's a mistake architects nothing in our critic does this Omar maybe I'm architecting something else mm-hm but it feels good to do that because then you find out
01:01:24| thoughts that other people have of you and it lets you have insight to yourself because you can ask him like hey you remember me or do you remember the time or like what do you think of this
01:01:35| situation and like these people are they're not in my life at whatsoever and will never be back into my life they don't have to be there's no onus on it no Honus
01:01:45| I used honest food I love onus you unbutton a button every time I say on this or someone says onus so I wanted to bring it back and make it more relative to most people but so most people have a
01:01:57| manager and the different types of managers kind of reflect upon the different personality types go for it so we got CB describe my manager my new manager who I love all business comm has
01:02:08| like seven I'm sassy seven a sort of number one the promise problem-solving one it's the one that's just like trying to like break down things and like get rid of them and lock them down one by
01:02:19| one hmm and then the pitchfork manager is one that's like heavy-handed he's the one who tries to like pretty much she looks she or she I have had female
01:02:33| managers and I'm not saying they're either or of this type and then number three is the pontificating one the one who talks way too much and doesn't solve anything
01:02:43| I've had that the presumptuous one has ones that are self-centered focused on themselves I haven't had too many of these I don't I don't think they survive right on that's not a managerial thing
01:02:57| it is weird because managers aren't that selfish what do you think about it I mean they can be but in different way not uh that's weird I never thought of that managers don't like to just focus
01:03:09| on themselves whole time they literally put the onus on you yeah that's the whole point of being a manager right is that you're looking at what other people are doing and making sure they do a
01:03:17| better job at shaving their chest I shaved my neck oh okay I'll get there whatever I can't okay the perfect manager I don't know why they doesn't make sense why
01:03:33| would they put that in this listing skip um because they who made the listing yeah all business comm they're done all business that comes down the passive manager understand this manager doesn't
01:03:44| want to do anything they probably don't know really what they're doing so they're just hands-off lays a fair I think that's my new manager I like him hey that's I like that that type of
01:03:55| manager and then the proactive one who always wants to like knock down the next peg that leads into like management styles though so there's essentially like author authoritative it's a
01:04:09| persuasive one the one that's trying to get you to do something by saying whatever range it ranch oh yeah that's kind of like the I'll meet your buddy buddy I'm your bro I'm your bro and then
01:04:18| I'm your bro I know we're managers but I'm your bro so there's like the equal footing idea there level footing is persuasive and then the paternalistic ones that are above you
01:04:30| but still trying to be familial your father and I love you but I'm practically your father yeah and these are all the autocratic ones and this one is also like exploitative or
01:04:42| authoritative so like their dictators good and then the Democratic ones okay yeah Democratic ones there's the ones that are like consultants the ones that like they like you like they come to you
01:04:56| for advice they're like what do you think about this and then you just tell person you know I think those a sneakiest ones because like they could go all out information differently right
01:05:09| they can be like ah I don't know what to do about this situation what would you do and they give you a situation and then like two days later they're releasing a company mandate that totally
01:05:19| used your input but like in a weird way and you're like oh I kind of said something to that manager and they like didn't talk with you because you're just an employee and they managed based on
01:05:29| your opinion and fired someone they were like yeah we fired the guy and you're like I didn't say to fire him I just said I wouldn't trust him okay I have there's like snake in the grass see a
01:05:39| little bit almost there's one manager who said to me he was talking about a specific employee and he said do you think he's worth X amount of dollars oh that's neat you don't want to mess with
01:05:54| someone else's money yeah I couldn't answer that question I mean who say you get him part and he still works there feeling guilty oh you're not gonna say like oh I think he's worth X amount of
01:06:06| dollars like that that's a bomb he's only worth thirty one thousand dollars that's a question to test you and not to judge the other person so you never answer that one oh should be should be
01:06:17| yeah but yeah he's trying to be a little bit consultant consultant and then parse it collaborative and parse it Parsa potata v' that's hard per se so like a participant like someone who's
01:06:31| like actively involved in what you're doing he's trying to be like a comrade and collaborate with hell we've tried I'm in here with you guys I'm in the Box hole I'm in your foxhole and I'm like
01:06:42| what's my foxhole man it's deep and furry and then you have she unshaved yeah well it gets furrier the way yeah gross and I see have like say affair which is the delegate of one this one
01:06:59| that just says you know do your job Kelly got it yeah I got it I think it is sure sure sure delegative but it would be wrong so those are also blow managed like I like
01:07:21| I I read people really well so I can tell what type of manager they are when I start talking to them and certain ones you need to avoid I'm gonna be honest the ones that are consultive you
01:07:32| probably need to get away from because they can be shady any ones that are like pot ticket pontificating one still wants to talk too much probably want to avoid them too because usually you can figure
01:07:43| out that they're not talking about the people they work with or they're there are co-workers or the people that are under them if their pontiff pontificating too much
01:07:52| they're talking about other things and just trying to be they're trying to spin things essentially so I would avoid those two types of managers anything that's funny
01:08:01| micromanage or - I'd avoid them well okay well most people don't get a choice with all this stuff that you're talking about I agree most people don't get to move around or shift or get away from
01:08:11| people that are holding them on can do it is way you longer scale like it's not like I didn't like these guys this week I'm gonna try next week with a new job it definitely is a year like if you want
01:08:23| to shift away from a manager and takes months two years to really get away from which is crazy it affects your life big-time yeah sometimes it sucks a lot a longing loss
01:08:34| - have you ever been a manager I have yeah I've I've had a team of I think four people and we're really like I was the type that laid out the goals and said this is your objective completed if
01:08:50| you can't and then if you can't you come back and you tell me why you good even get anyone on your team you like reach out to you at all or everybody completed their goals never talk to you they would
01:09:03| I'd be like a little bit consultive so like people would ask me like one or two questions and then I hope that they finished it and then the status was always with so I have a customer and a
01:09:13| manager above me so the meetings would always be the people who were below me plus two levels above me so it held them to their actions and they would tell me what they did or didn't do hmm so I mean
01:09:26| there's not much I can do in the situation where I work in a unique field where things break and it's not anyone's fault so they had excuses for why things didn't work all the time and we were
01:09:38| slowly building up to doing something that never got funding what's weird is you described all the managers and manager types there are mm-hmm but I don't think you included yourself at all
01:09:55| you wouldn't say that I was lazy fair and consultive and sure no I I guess you were oh are you saying you were a bunch of them at once yeah I mean you have to play it off too if you're if you're an
01:10:06| intelligent person then not stuck in one mindset then you're being flexible depending on who you're talking so here's a thing that plays into every um panders episode we ever do yep
01:10:15| it plays in every trope we ever talk about a place in every everything we ever talk about I'm not even trying we do a whole episode on this it's human beings think of their ex and they trying
01:10:25| to purvey that their Y and other people perceive that their Z right mm-hmm but with stuff coming on at once yeah and what we just talked about it's a lot of x and y but what are we actually I I
01:10:40| mean we started the episode with that but I don't know that we can figure out the answer because do you think your employees were like I use a night manager but like I never really saw him
01:10:50| it was like oh way he would look up here once a month and be like are you done like do you mean like what's the what's the worst way people perceive you as a manager think of that I wouldn't even
01:11:03| put it as manager the most obvious way whatever understanding perception of people is when you're dating people so like dating somebody and then breaking like managing someone no I'm
01:11:14| not talking about the I'm sorry but like if you break up with somebody and they don't want to talk to you anymore I mean they are a type of person and I read you a certain way and they decided
01:11:26| that they weren't going to mesh with your personality they break it off and then for me I'm always not wondering like what did you see that didn't work for you so I'm trying to judge what
01:11:36| their personality is and figure out what they judged my personality was and then try to tweak it based on weird because I never thought of this which is another implement of personality right yeah I
01:11:49| serve something like you might think about this I didn't until you just brought it up it's like if I should you've never gotten like you've never been broken up with kind of course I had
01:11:58| but I never was like like I didn't break it down and be like what elements of my relationship ability did you think were not compatible your eligibility and I never got the
01:12:09| research paper that documented what percentage do you think I was in compatible when lovemaking or possibly romantic gestures like you know I don't know it's strange
01:12:22| I guess so this is you're leaning back achill yes but this is leaning back to me being only like two percent of the population versus like most people are you know there's four times as many of
01:12:33| these people out there that don't understand that I'm questioning like what what is it what you saw does it compare to what I saw versus what should I be versus like people don't even go to
01:12:44| that level they just say like I wasn't I didn't like this this relationship it's over and I'm just like well why other people are just like it didn't work and now like that's happened like a lot of
01:12:56| relationships so like I date like four people in a row that are all not my type of person and it doesn't make sense to me I'm like you would think that you would have an equal amount of people
01:13:06| that would be reflective and say well you were this and I was wondering this and it's like Oh finally someone gets it but it would take like ten people before you got one that was like here's the
01:13:19| answer that you are looking for but you have to make sure you understand my perspective as well I'm gonna say something here that I don't usually do on the others do it we're gonna play a
01:13:31| stand a little bit hit me this is so weird so we all think of our personality type I'm a campaign campaigners are perfect in my opinion and actually I'm an
01:13:42| architect on building toward something everybody right perfect right you're the smallest percentage because you guys are the best right everyone thinks I'll take it well right yes everyone thinks us
01:13:53| everyone thinks it I would say to Dan architect I'm painter Dan the fact that you feel that way about relationships or breakups the reason people don't give you that feedback or don't give you any
01:14:06| of this other stuff or don't break any as I'm tired in my personality well because you're wasting time what if your ultimate defect is that you literally spend so much time analyzing
01:14:16| things are trying to find analytical data that your it's wasted time it's like telling someone hey when we had sex why was it good and someone's like I
01:14:25| don't know it just it was good why do we stop doing this I don't know because it's stupid bad and your defect is that you focus hyper focus on one thing and maybe you like I need to know why was it
01:14:37| not percentage-wise good or bad and you're like it sound like goddamnit I don't know and then answering this questions more wasted time I'm not I don't know but that's what that's your
01:14:48| only defect dude hey how would you know it is because I like to analyze almost everything I'd like to understand almost everything and if I can't go back and like relive it I'm gonna keep pinging
01:15:01| the person be like why and that's what beat us off all of my exes that'd be like but can you what about this question I'd be like just just stop [Laughter]
01:15:15| right no it's part of my personality or at least it was company types are real I don't I have no idea I sometimes think it's like cars go pull shit a little bit like everyone likes the other good
01:15:26| things like you're very outgoing and you can change the world with your ideas and something it's like they could say that for most people not everybody but most people right I also think there's a
01:15:37| sexist version of it too that like people don't talk about how if you're a male you have certain personality types of your female you have certain personality types the percentage is
01:15:44| probably vary widely between the two sexes as I can't imagine that there's a female version of me out there with the same kind of questions the same type of personality I don't think it's an equal
01:15:55| message weird I was gonna guess that this female percentage of architect or whatever is probably in the two percent range you think that the females are the majority or you think there are a
01:16:07| fraction of a fraction of but I think it's the same fraction that there are fraction of men maybe two percent somewhat number but like to interact with a female that is an architect type
01:16:18| and define them and date them it's almost impossible I would agree with that there we go my type is an argument just I was making it validates me as a person
01:16:31| though searching for that architect type is almost impossible and then eventually you find them in your like wolf f ever figures people out there don't even know
01:16:42| what working with other people is which is crazy up till a nao is were just working with like three people the fact that though that I knew them so well like it was like relatives and people I
01:16:55| work with on did they basis when I work with like three or four people like I know them so well so they don't just fill the trope like it's like gym rat guy like Jim rec I is also a conspiracy
01:17:08| theorist also he he wets the bed also he talked about his daughter too much also he friggin is late every Friday but no other day of the week like there's so many weird things
01:17:20| that don't fill into the trope there's seven billion people in the world I think I think these tropes get dangerous where we think everyone will fill one of fifteen or sixteen personality types
01:17:31| when really you lean towards a personality type and then you have your own stuff going on would you agree I do seven billion of us drinking wine here doing a podcast nice it's an old wine
01:17:48| but it pretty kind of 2018 it is this has been opening our fridge it's half open aha it's up to here it's been there for at least a month so I'm not sure if that's
01:18:02| bad or retaining the flavors of the fridge gain up do you know the fridge in Delaware every time you open did it smell like fish mmm most are fresh in there was the question that no boy no
01:18:18| you know that storm we had wait oh you don't know I don't know east coast has been bombarded by bad weather I went on vacation for two days do you know how much it rained every day every hour
01:18:35| extreme wind in excess of 40 miles an hour one night extreme rain almost hurricane force so I have one brother-in-law I won't get into his personality type cleats he
01:18:48| drinks a lot I needed a lot of fun we stripped into our arm unders the other word unders yeah and ran into the hurricane onto the beach which was awesome because a storm surge through
01:19:03| the wood ER like 18 feet above usual it went all the way up to our sand dune huh oh I'm telling you the house almost flooded there were it was coming in the the sliding glass door was it made for
01:19:17| this kind of rain it's horizontal rain because it's being pelted at the house because we're beachfront property we were stated mm-hmm started leaking it into the door which then made it into
01:19:26| Joyce's and followed along the Joyce's we had two holes that appeared in the ceiling and started ripping the ceiling apart and dripping into our house way to call the people we ran in from we're
01:19:35| like we didn't do this your house is is falling to pieces another thing that's weird did you know toilets always have to have a ventilation like the water is always on
01:19:47| the plumbing has to come up to a point where the atmosphere touches it I don't really know the vacuum what you're talking about I'm getting into this you're in a
01:19:57| hurricane and you're in a house with a toilet the water raises and false crazy levels while you were standing there looking at it I was like dude what's going on the
01:20:10| toilet he's like you don't know you know in the house atmosphere is going up and down windows going crazy like the wind wasn't shaking the pipes that just the atmosphere water level was being
01:20:22| fluctuated by the wind yeah this happens in extreme hurricane genera coastal area and then fish fridge does that play into this somehow no but I did get nude and not nude but licking my underwear and
01:20:35| ran out into the storm so that would be cool just to feel a hurricane and be on the beach everything a 40 mile an hour and wind no her I felt like I was hitting with needles every part of my
01:20:46| body was getting pelted with raindrops that felt like sharp pin drops it was terrible and then I turned my back on it it was just pin drops in my back so shout out personality type extrovert
01:21:02| works real hard with drinks-a-lot brother-in-law shout out there's another reason I brought this up there's one other thing get into oh he's not passive-aggressive
01:21:13| like other people everyone had job does passive-aggressive so drop a hint hoping that you get it and then you never do and then they become more aggressive until they stop
01:21:25| doing I mentioned in my memo earlier yeah you don't have a passive-aggressive stuff of your job I'm too blunt oh you're not passive or dancing yeah well don't be passive-aggressive and be like
01:21:44| are you passive or you are aggressive and they'll be like react to this and then by the time they finish reading the email I'm like I'm like at their desk like were you sure and that'll be like
01:21:59| so weird I've never worked with you I feel like I would hate you not hate you that's a bad term I wouldn't really hate you we get along fine but I feel like we don't work
01:22:12| the same that's true most people don't let work like I work and I understand that when I work stop yeah but there's a point where this gets into so much detail we need to talk about way I need
01:22:28| to have an episode where I talk about my own job and I didn't get into my new job which I love hey it's awful we didn't talk about salary structure either money no we can
01:22:40| mine's a very Commission based actually not that Commission based what jobs very um car salesman but without the taxes yeah the one guy who is a car Sam stone I'm pretty sure you just ended up in
01:22:57| marble granite I get people to sign contracts to say they're gonna buy X amount of marble granite and make sure they love the granite or the marble or the limestone or whatever countertop
01:23:08| they want to buy and I make sure that the major right and I make sure that they don't need a sink and that they do or don't need plumbing and that they do or don't
01:23:15| need rounded edges on the countertop and they do or don't that and then they sign off we filled the checklist and then they paid the money in the Installer through everything I don't even go near
01:23:26| it yeah so you get base pay plus Commission correct so how would you need a backsplash like everything else like whatever so I was like my dad was work
01:23:38| he worked on Commission like his entire life he got a very little base pay but a lot of commission and then there are people that also get like bonuses based on how much they sell I don't know if
01:23:46| there's a bonus structure for correct they had four bonuses they give out every month it's for most percentage closed because you start up a not a firm you start a invoice with an employee and
01:24:00| then not everyone closes because granite marble it ain't cheap like you buy countertop you spend like six thousand bucks like it's like ooh that's a lot money right so some people come in and
01:24:11| get frayed long clothes some people get afraid and then buy with a competitor some people do this you know I mean so it's percentage closed is a winner most granite or marble moved is a winner
01:24:21| most money moved is like a winner and then there's one other winner I pray without it is but it's the idea is the top three are always just the best salesman of the month and the bottom one
01:24:34| that close percentage is usually like some chump who's near the bottom hmm because like think of it he's only getting 12 customers this month he's really serious in closed ten of them
01:24:45| that's a high percentage the top guy he might see a hundred guys a month because they always send it to the top salesman but like it's like people walk in people who don't aren't really interested like
01:24:55| they're screwing up his percentage so do you think that's a good scheme I mean it it makes the certain class of people word is yeah right the other thing I noticed is that some people seem to
01:25:07| really be interested in it like one guy was all about the percentages and I gotta upsell this and I got a um I gotta make the bonus trying to game this yeah he was and I I respect to the board if
01:25:22| that's what we want to do like that is his focus I also met someone who's been there for 10 years which is well second oldest guy who's been there he's like I don't care I'm like excuse me
01:25:33| he's like he's like I'm gonna make Commission I'm gonna make base maybe fine I'm not gonna like break my neck for three extra sales he's like if people wanna buy mama granite to buy it
01:25:44| I'm like move I'm like oh my gratitude actually yeah someone would be like I don't like this guy and the managers don't seem pushy like they're not like get your numbers up to anyone like
01:25:57| they're just literally doing their own thing so are they watching you the whole time no and they're trying to do their own thing any time you talk to them it's bothering are you on an open floor where
01:26:06| everyone can see you yeah but you take people wherever you want like I can go back into the marble and granite yard and give them the business I can take him to the bathroom you can go anywhere
01:26:19| in the store like there's no if you're on your phone to people see it and do they think negatively of you yes and no they promote you to download all this stuff on their phone on your phone like
01:26:32| this weird it tells the priceless thing and all that stuff so everyone's always on the phone and they're like flipping through it and I'm like I'm like is he just texting someone I think the
01:26:42| funniest is the one guy who's been there a long time like I was like shadowing him like they got me like kind of following people I was like what's he doing it some little sitting in front of
01:26:50| them like we're lookin for a countertop and he was looking at his phone and I'm behind him he was like just texting someone I was like so in my line of work I started an inner office with three
01:27:02| people moved to an office with two people and like these are like offices with walls and then I moved to a new building that was open floor plan but you had cubicles
01:27:11| that had walls that were maybe like five feet high so it's wildly open you could hear all the conversations and now I move to an office that has three to four people in it and I it's cubicles but
01:27:23| there are higher walls so of those environments I probably liked the office ones more because they're quieter and I get more saluted though it's it's not I don't know I feel like the one with
01:27:37| the five-foot walls you can make friends with people more often but the types of people that are in my business are not people that I like to make friends with sorry - yeah I don't match up well with
01:27:50| other people and I don't make friends that readily I make I'm polite and nice to them cordial and I can talk to them it's just I don't share my intimate thoughts with them because I don't trust
01:28:02| them what are you gonna do with your information tono's I don't trust people so that's my question do you think they're gonna like use it to get better at business than you is it a business
01:28:13| thing or personal thing oh this is gonna get another anecdote story what's the question they think it's gonna come after me business-wise or personal wise I think
01:28:25| it's business-wise ideal like it would come up and someone would know something and then I'd have to like tell a story about why I do a podcast or why and why I said this one time I get it mm-hmm
01:28:37| but business though yeah so he's an you're nice or not nice or open or not openness for business I heard your business yeah I heard a story about a week ago from one of my managers who is
01:28:51| responsible for giving promotions yeah yeah they're responsible for giving promotions and she told me a story about one thing I did one time when it was in overtime and I had to pick up my kids
01:29:02| and I left apparently in front of a NASA customers but it didn't happen I'm gonna say this in front of a customer it didn't happen but like it's a roundabout way of her
01:29:14| telling me that the managers know that something bad happened and I never got to answer it so like all these clandestine things happen behind your back and it's a bad situation so like I
01:29:25| already moved away from that bad situation because I realized it like two years ago that I needed to do that so like the people that are also in that office like they didn't have my back so
01:29:36| there are certain people that I was just like I don't trust I need to keep you away from me I can't even have a conversation with people in an open office setting because they'll know
01:29:44| through a proxy that I said this that will make its way back to me via three other managers and I just don't want to deal with it like the possibilities are there so I don't do it
01:29:56| so that's another thing that business settings are terrible because you just can't let yourself be open you can't talk freely what I'm getting from all this can I just leave if we
01:30:11| break it down is it no no is that people are the downfall of everything it's never the business itself we're never talking about the way it's derived it's it's if anything's gonna happen bad
01:30:27| it's because people take it the wrong way our people ruin it or people do this or that or people try and usurp your power or people don't listen to you or people manipulate or think what you say
01:30:37| and manipulate sure mm-hmm I mean if that's the way it is that's the way it is I mean last us stat I read was it's somewhere between 59 and 63 because I have two numbers percent 29.7
01:30:54| and 60s 3.2 percent of the u.s. population is employed right uh-huh that's like half seven out of ten I'm around 33 success rate will take 2/3 almost people are employed working in
01:31:11| office work a job have co-workers have people they trust or don't trust share with or don't share with go to the gym before they see them or don't go to the gym before them that's that's most of us
01:31:25| right I mean that's taking into account that babies don't go to work I believe but then people who are retired or done work and people were tool people who were unemployed
01:31:34| so what was your main point on that one I forget but 85% of people from 25 to 54 are employed so they're they're in the prime age range so what you're saying sure but I mean it's like obviously
01:31:49| someone's sixth I actually read that on teenagers or working less right now you know what that is though right so there's like an 85 we ate many other involved them way too many after-school
01:31:59| programs was getting it into college mmm right which will pay off later on you know you wouldn't think I actually hope the college bubble burst I said that on
01:32:09| there I hope so - you know I agree with you this is stupid I just signed up for a ten-year repayment on my loans from 33 they'll get there with near 43
01:32:20| yep I been paying five hundred and forty dollars a month too much right I've been paying that since I graduated and I will pay that well no no no the 10-year pay up was much lower I just wanted a much
01:32:34| lower payment anyway I signed up for a 10-year payment won't say if it holds and I'll be paid off for the 43 oh shut up all your vitality will be gone it already is just
01:32:48| talking about it climatic actually know what's crazy if everyone um there's talk that people might just stop paying their student loans to be funny they should everyone it if they did
01:33:01| shout out I'd do it - sure so everyone unpay iners i will promote not paying off your student loans they can try and mess up your credit but if everyone does that at once they're not going to screw
01:33:13| an entire generations credit right complex yeah I think it makes sense Sallie Mae we're coming for you mmm navient Nelnet a lot of these companies I said this how freaking crazy
01:33:29| would it be hear me out this is a fantasy I had one time everyone works at selling man gets cancer everyone oh no no no I'm not wishing that on but hold on everyone the
01:33:42| receptionist's president everyone and then they were like wow this is crazy weird coincidence we're gonna hire like all the new people they heard got cancer would you sign up to work for them would
01:34:00| you if they were offering a million dollars a year would you so you're hoping that no one ends up working at Sallie Mae and then the organization organization dies at what point does the
01:34:11| organization go we just can't know whom will work for us like is that a real thing is that possible and always someone someone would do it yeah so now they're paying three million dollars for
01:34:24| someone to come answer the phones at Sallie Mae mm-hmm would they do that so with a 540 a month what did you say well you're right I'm paying 548 or whatever all you suckers out there still
01:34:38| pay you know people were gonna help us pay hmm do I cover up on recap recap own personality everything everything on personality and Sally Nick yeah we had the humor steamer isms and therefore
01:34:55| different temperaments with the bile the phlegm the sanguinary choleric the way melancholic things atlantic no I was wrong it's not science it was done a long time ago so it's not great yeah we
01:35:08| got the sensation in same sensation intuition thinking feeling extroverts introverts or extroverts introverts calling that one Carl Carl Jung Carl Jung yep and then yeah Myers Briggs they
01:35:24| had the extraversion introversion sensing intuition thinking feeling judging perceiving absolutely covered 16 different personality types I'm an architect type thank is not he's
01:35:38| campaign or oak so I'm gonna campaign for you I should be a politician the smear campaign would just be this show a parent and we got into the trade literally the traits are more scientific
01:35:51| yet openness to experience conscientiousness extraversion agreeableness and neuroticism which people to more hmm in the word of the podcast surgeon see positive effect
01:36:09| and management and work and all those people that are different personality types and different types of workers different types of frantic corporate shills we didn't even say shoulder die
01:36:22| groove that then we ended up with Sallie Mae anyone who works here is probably gonna get cancer probably not I hope not I mean I hope I love those people I love them they just sell your loan to
01:36:39| somebody else having a good actually hmm how did you know which one it was I don't you guys don't know that I could be known that you could be poking out your butthole here mm-hmm
01:36:53| hmm anyway a lot of people got student debts because they weren't working the workplace and work with all these wonderful people I mean ultimately what is the workplace it's a high school
01:37:05| continuation hmm I looked up immediately after I was done looking up all they are co-worker types as a comedian the Joker this mass murderer my next search was high school personality types do you
01:37:21| know what I found same dust problems the same goddamn thing so really it's anytime you're surrounded by more than 30 peers more than 50
01:37:31| people you run into categories you want to put me when they say high school never ends and it kind of doesn't right there's the comedian at work there's a community in high school there's the hot
01:37:46| mess at work there's the hot mess in high school I mean there's literally any of these lists could apply to any of them now in high school the quiet one the moody one the dream crusher the
01:37:57| talker the honest Joker the all the high school scapegoat and say the office gape of the none of my business won the cooler that's a cool one everyone wants to hang out with the big surprise that
01:38:09| someone who loved and now you hate the slacker the eater the hard worker the motivator the responsible one and the teacher's pet was that a high school list up now if the list I went to
01:38:20| earlier for coworkers same damn list yeah that's awell just high school we're all just highschool people older that's all that's all its first older now a little more antipathy
01:38:31| for me hmm Yodas is on that give him the onus the onus I don't take that uh lastly I did want to say cuz no one thinks of this I know I said the high school thing continued is our co-workers
01:38:49| huh this is the last high school setting you may have in your life for years let me think about it yeah people hold onto it as you're in it
01:39:04| you hate it you hate me when you wonder when you retire you look back the same way I look back on high school and you say I remember the jokester ah I remember Kenny one day he came in he had
01:39:16| a whole bunch of doughnuts he slipped they almost fell on the floor who went into damn donut that day like there's stuff you'll remember fondly even from this because I don't know that there's a
01:39:30| next high school could be the old person's home but I don't think everyone makes it so really enjoy your high school continued because in a way we're a little bit the jock we're a little bit
01:39:44| nerd we're a little bit the popular girl we're a little bit the outcast and we're gonna raise our fists at the end of the episode and that song at the end of the Breakfast Club don't play I wish it
01:39:58| might if you edit the episode it might so thanks for joining us thanks for talking about all the different worker personality types and whether we're a jerk at home or a jerk at the office or
01:40:14| a jerk elf that every time of day mm-hmm yeah I mean everyone's asleep right now I'm like jerk oh you got some time just saying oh thanks for watching folks and listening and listen you're gonna make
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00:00:27| so I'm Dan and I'm Nick both for old friends dissecting one topic at a time people technology media we've got it all covered each discussion here is a deep dive in or unique perspective the taboo
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00:00:54| content and is for entertainment purposes only so join us have a good time it does doesn't it it gets me in the mood every wow wow wow wow talk about personality types and you're
00:01:39| referencing an old episode which i think is douchebag no I'm Ashley referencing an old episode called jobs employment and I remember one commenter said I look fat in my old shirts so I was proving a
00:01:54| point and that same commenter dill dork 44 I'm calling you out buddy he said I couldn't even tie my own tie he figured and I figured if I just showed up with a tie
00:02:07| on he would think I had my mommy do it and I just you know she was the second over again when I was like in first and second grade I used to do that we say more in high school yeah no no I knew
00:02:19| that I buy high school yeah did you use the same time over and over again I different did you yeah throw it over my head rest on the car and I pull it off and just tighten it up like an idiot
00:02:30| all right you know yeah our friend over here has just started a new job you're trying to impress people that we're tied my job now I'm like Howie hey like that trying to show that he is that dildo
00:02:44| work 44 both sensitive and assertive and listening and commanding at the same time it's very difficult to do how it is yeah you're very sort of with your your affect but your whole personality is
00:02:57| very soft and gentle Oh interesting I can be a daddy how are you saying or a sub I don't I don't know what that means really what does that really mean we're not gonna get into it right now well we
00:03:12| will get into though is that uh we talk about the different kinds of personality and how they were grouped before and how people thought other people's personalities were generated well sure
00:03:25| that's literally where I was gonna start oh wow yeah I was actually gonna say hey how are you doing dad oh we doing well we don't have as much back and forth discourse some that people want to make
00:03:34| sure you're okay I'm fine okay I don't care you're okay I know you're okay Nick you like sports okay yeah I will say thank you stop talking bad me I'm sensitive I like
00:03:55| to stay on the wall I like to be a Wallflower please do not point out any of my personality traits I get nervous when people talk about me but that Eagles game the last throw when they
00:04:07| gave him an extra fifth time down baby I hate this stuff yeah that's good well we gotta crab that was terrible I had heartburn blood pressure issues I was drinking too
00:04:20| much which led to me drinking too much more it was a weeknight we just terrible I hate the Eagles hmm being a fan of the Eagles means you hate them more than anything in the world and
00:04:31| they make you curse and scream and drink too much and do terrible things and throw furniture and you freeze your blood pressure and you scream at everyone and that's for a win and every
00:04:43| I understand yeah did you ever try to climb one of those greased light poles I would have I think we discussed this back when we were doing the podcast and they won the Super Bowl I don't know if
00:04:55| anyone heard about that but I 100% if this was six years prior I'd be in the epicenter of all that crazy stuff um with the kid now he's really slowed me down he's ruined my game I would throw
00:05:08| so many glass bottles I would break open I would break open a Brinks truck I would I'll break into it and it's not even for personal gain I would start throwing money in the air below so happy
00:05:21| [Laughter] destruction of property that leads to happiness I can't explain it I wonder if a Brinks truck has ever driven through a riot before anything another riot yeah
00:05:42| throw those money bags up outside there so let's talk about humor ISM which is one of the previous thoughts about how people generate their own personalities or where their personalities come from
00:05:53| and it really comes from their fluids there's four different humors mm-hmm it's not it's not semen no blood yes no sweat no piss nope bile bile you got one there's two different kinds of oil so
00:06:13| you got actually you got good blood black bile black bile and yellow bile and yellow bum that's what I said I was getting there and do it in a planet so the most deserves no he comes from yeah
00:06:30| well a lot of it has to do with like melodies so if you're sick and one of those things are not in the right proportion as I said back then yeah he would have some sort of malady so
00:06:39| they would drain them or add to them and try to manipulate what's going on there so that's actually the precursor to modern medicine because they wanted to remove your phlegm when you're congested
00:06:50| they wanted to modify your blood if your blood was lacking iron or something they try to hype you up by giving you certain herbs and the herbs would make you feel better so it would fix your personality
00:07:01| by making sure you were medically sound so a personality is really just an imbalance yeah well I guess in today's society you can just take a pill and you can be whoever you want right with
00:07:15| neutral I do though it does neuter you I would say yeah not neutralized neuter has a better word for it mmm exactly yeah so there are different temperaments attached to the blood the
00:07:27| yellow bile the black bile the phlegm anger or blogs got an anger in it doesn't it or is that black bile it was a it's weird so they have like seasonal they have
00:07:38| seasons ages elements organs qualities and temperament so the blood is actually spring the ages infancy so young vital vitality and the element is air the organ is liver cuz the livers pretty
00:07:52| bloody moist and warm as the quality they had different kinds of like what you would do like if you were like clammy they try to like dry you up and warm you up so they do things to you so
00:08:03| moist and warm is blood and then your temperament sanguine mmm sanguis didn't wise and calm or something like that same I mean at the wise are enthusiastic active and social
00:08:15| Wow my talent is that vitality so the other ones were choleric which is yellow bile melancholic which is black bile and then climatic is phlegm I don't know I'm curious what telematic yeah how do you
00:08:31| define flow-matic it's relaxed peaceful quiet and easygoing because they can't talk really because they're flah Matic oh I'm wearing green is I mean I'm climatic I think I can be 4matic
00:08:42| you could yeah yeah I think Nick over here he's always so flah Matic man it's phlegm manic let me show you let me introduce you let me slap this tile for you
00:08:56| you could fit 20 NICs right in this tile right on top of this tile just slide it right on give it 20 personalities in this bad boy mm-hmm so that kind of focused in on
00:09:07| personality types which I think there's too many too too many people there's two main people Carl Jung and Jung Jung yeah I'll say his name a bunch of times so there was like a rational
00:09:22| versus irrational and then extrovert versus introvert and then you also broke it down into four different areas sensation intuition thinking and feeling which also kind of plays into the
00:09:32| myers-briggs types which were psychology today on a myers-briggs on Psychology Today tell you that folks extraversion introversion sensing intuition thinking feeling and then judging perceiving so
00:09:46| of counter types like how much of a percentage are you towards which type right so you have to be one or the other uh-huh and I mean we're in the mail in between with that that's those are the
00:09:58| two pillars not pillars mm-hmm it's like a seesaw right word yeah yeah you're either one or the other yeah you're teeter-tottering towards the wean I guess you could have both hmm
00:10:12| and this is one of the one of course you can't I mean you could be right down the middle and then be crazier or you have both of the like what was the one extrovert introvert I guess that's
00:10:23| someone who's equal parts going out going but equal parts doesn't want to be outgoing it seems like contradictory that one I'll give you something anecdotal which is mainly my life is
00:10:34| that of the introverts I was the extrovert so I always had a group of friends where they didn't know how to interact with a group of people that were at a bar or a club or a new party
00:10:45| and I would feel like I had the onus the onus was on you yeah the onus was on me to go and say hi like crack that she'll and then the other ones they'd slowly fit into the police leather I could see
00:11:02| that it was difficult because I'm not your the party of the knot partiers Canada exactly that's route 2 but yeah I know what you're saying yeah
00:11:10| which is it's a tough spot to be in cuz I'm not like I'm not usually that way but if you take away the other introverts yeah as a lone wolf I'm I'm kind of that way like I'm allowed to be
00:11:24| whatever I want to be I'm not carrying people on my back to do it he's right but in the group you were almost like the most extrovert yeah the most like capable almost about
00:11:35| to do this someone's gotta do it I'm interesting cuz I would almost say on the opposite right not really well like I figure like I'm in very social circles like at least through
00:11:47| grade school and stuff and like not jocks but like you know people who think they're the cool kids but at the same time I loved nerdy stuff it sounds like not nerdy stuff like you're the nerd
00:11:59| east of the jocks yeah like and I love nerdy stuff like video games and like being in doors and science I will give that to you cuz I didn't know that you like video games more than I do actually
00:12:10| you play more video games than I I can right now and I think well that's that's again it spots me yeah but I think I think you do it as a choice you have options of doing
00:12:22| whatever you want and then you choose video games whereas I I'm driven elsewhere right you're very uh work centric now aren't you too much I need to make money so I can retire and then
00:12:32| be old and then not have any I wish seaman was one of the elements it should have been more testosterone hump let my aura get that aura pumping are you gonna do then finally play the video games
00:12:49| yeah I guess I guess so and not having a cell phone I'll be out of spunk monk that's definitely a bile that no one talked about you're absolutely right yeah
00:13:00| when we talk about so both both of us took a test we both did the myers-briggs test which has 16 different personality types based on the four different versions okay yeah I'm gonna was this
00:13:12| website with 16 personalities calm I believe 16 personalities and it was you're absolutely correct so here here's my breakdown folks as usual hmm yes yes here's my breakdown introverted
00:13:25| intuitive thinking judging well hold on because we're doing a new inclusive thing where we work together with the audience and everything I want everyone at home to take the test with us
00:13:35| so there's 16 personalities calm that's right yeah no calm you got a 16 the number right the number HTTP ass and then Cole and go there clash let me do we we gonna be WWE World
00:13:50| Wide Web not the whole thing's iced you do is you use to letter don't use that one mm-hm when you get there look around you're gonna find the quiz you want to take it
00:13:59| you don't have to sign up for anything it's like free uh-huh now everyone home please listen along good take it well uh it's yours we'll wait right here until they're done
00:14:10| and they're done oh that was quick all right great oh that was a curl so might might rates which is a different version of types so they break it down differently its myers-briggs but we'll
00:14:25| come back to traits because I think the traits are actually more accurate than types come back to that later so my traits are introverted intuitive thinking judging sort of which makes me
00:14:36| in their terms the architect type which is like a planner somebody who's prepared someone who's who's I said thinking that's not the right word but it's like a I guess so they're like
00:14:48| weighing vase on intuition and not for based on like sensing or feeling or emotion they're kind of like calculating which makes sense I'm a confident individual yes getting back and I think
00:15:04| it deleted my test oh do you want to click on you can go to the different types you were a hammer time I could read off yours oh it's just one type oh hey cool I thought it was differences
00:15:19| with air in about cool I got campaigner type folks campaign I am I assumed extrovert yeah extrovert and for new intuitive intuitive feeling and
00:15:34| perceptive I think that intuitive like I don't know why okay they just pick then all right who cares intuitive um what was the f1 what's the unlike feeling a feeling folks and
00:15:47| perceptive one do i from - an A and a myosin T bad because you're not assertive or maybe you are sort of home no I'm not assertive there you go that's probably what that is a figure of the a
00:15:57| is and - no you just said assertive right well I think you can be either or like mine is on another tab or I think I'm the assertive type so I was the - a which makes me sixty-three percent
00:16:12| assertive never mind I'm - a for though the - a we're assertive look at us Wow whistles yeah don't assert up guys what's the yeah it drives me nuts what's T ah see I hit back too many times
00:16:27| literally I was trying to get to that page that you're probably looking at with yes yes yes yes yes so there's a balance there where I understand like my own type I guess but my type kind of
00:16:41| changes day to day I mean it's based on your movie really and then yeah you interact we have you ever taken these tests more than one time I have not this particular looking a personality test
00:16:51| like three times in a row I think it was like a teenager I was taking a sex 102 sexy I was or something and don't get me wrong there are different there's different validity levels to each test
00:17:02| you can take online some of them were absolute bullshit some of them are pretty good but um I think depending on your mood how you want to answer some questions like there are somewhere
00:17:11| depending on what hour of the day it is or how I perceive the question I could answer sort of agree to like I don't diss it I disagree have a night to slip up yeah I think I could do that
00:17:23| I mean there's some I wouldn't change at all I'd pick the exact same circle but some of them were I was like kind of neutral I was like more yes or no I can change so the - tea was turbulent so
00:17:35| it's like kind of like wishy-washy unsure sensitive self-conscious ease of chaos there saying I'm an agent of chaos they're saying sure hmm I love it so what was your time again it it was a e
00:17:49| something here E and F P a yes so I looked up the percentages of personality types and you are about eight percent in the population here that folks eight percent of me how you folks like
00:18:09| that huh yeah for every four view there is one of me so mine is only two percent which is kind of I never thought about this before when someone says what your type is you think you're just like
00:18:21| relating to other types sometimes there are four times as many types as there are you so yeah I mean the maximum is like 14 percent so if you think about like how maybe isolated I felt at
00:18:37| certain periods of my life it's probably are I was yeah because the the common personality types that are also introverts they don't know how to like sync up they don't know how to talk to
00:18:48| each other they don't know how to share all of those things that your their thinking so there is no like community there it's difficult mm-hm and if there was a community there it would be
00:18:57| overshadowed by the you know multiples more of you or the other people out there that are taking over the spotlight they're taking over all cities you're dancing around it like you're tap
00:19:09| dancing around it with brilliant shoes and flying around the audience the flower just ha ha but like also being around an extrovert for an introvert it's probably makes them more
00:19:20| introverted like these personality types or none of these personality types are in a vacuum I mean they're constantly around the other people right well they probably become more introverted around
00:19:32| extroverts most of them I'm not saying all of them but let's just say like that's one assertive people probably come more assertive when no one's challenging their assertiveness like do
00:19:41| you don't I mean like there's levels that are in check within the population but around certain personality types they take off yeah there's probably like an interplay there like I think if I was
00:19:52| paired with you in a social aspect you would bring me into the party and then I would no longer be and hurt it you won't be there sort of dick I know this guy yeah I would I would
00:20:04| just shade into the background suddenly Dan's wearing the same color as the wallpaper yeah just getting here like this dan your shirt looks like the wallpaper
00:20:16| but your skin doesn't you do it yeah chameleon party that was pretty metal I would actually appreciate that reminds me of a book Perks of Being a Wallflower that book actually emulates I don't read
00:20:34| it though never do you watch another I know I know Emma Watson and other people and it's definitely been on my TV I didn't pay attention to it I don't believe in the suicide what not I don't
00:20:45| believe in the suicide portion of it but there's like an attempted suicide that doesn't relate to me but the wallflower part where you're like confused don't know what to do you're alone I
00:20:54| understand that portion mm-hmm just be sensitive and feel intense which is not part of my architect nature movie do you think you're not feeling that's the thing if I come up with the plan on
00:21:10| my own it's very strategic and very I guess cold-hearted and straightforward but if I get down to it robot yeah a hundred percent so if I if I'm talking to someone in there having an issue like
00:21:21| my first reaction is the computer yeah no I think the opposite Oh until until I get past the first wall and then I didn't care I'm that's not about being right or wrong it's about making sure
00:21:36| that person is okay so there's no like you're like you're like trying to win the game I don't know I'm trying to extract the most happiness and fun out of the game as possible it's like a
00:21:52| syringe I'm just like I got this fun and I just stick it right in my neck and just Bioshock baby would you probably have gotten today I've gotten some injections okay done got some injection
00:22:06| all right don't they k for completing so you know got a new job maybe I to take it chill with bio shop okay yeah yeah you want to go through the positives and negatives of what you
00:22:15| found out your personality we're actually is so like mine is then I have to go through the ranks and witnesses you know I lost that page when I get back and I can't get it anymore I'll
00:22:27| just hit the I'll have the bullets you don't have it okay you can keep you can do actually all right good I commanded strategic self-concept competence independent decisive
00:22:38| hard-working determined open-minded and a jack-of-all-trades which is accurate for strengths actually that is pretty on point but it's a little vague it's a lot big yes I yes I'm curious observant I'm
00:22:56| not energetic and enthusiastic I am excellent communicator yeah know how to relax and very popular and friendly I actually imagine I'm the most popular
00:23:10| person at most of the jobs I go to most popular yeah you know self-proclaimed of course obviously but you can tell when you're like do you think like the worst person a job goes in and they're
00:23:25| like I'm the most popular guy there and they shake their shoulders like that's the move at least popular person does well baby I'm the most popular guy at A&E and they go ahead and sounds like
00:23:36| man we hate this guy I want personality type that guy is yeah I wonder can you look through the personality tapes I want to figure out on the is this Briggs Meyer yeah I can look at the so me the
00:23:54| like rundown of the 16 different categories that they have on that let's go here's the architect though love the brainy one who's like kind of like the
00:24:04| planner and the dreamer is that what you're gonna yeah the logic person the commander the debater commanders a jacket gerbils the commander probably as a boss people around
00:24:15| yeah advocate the mediator these are the diplomats protagonist campaigner did you dip it's been sentinels the logistician the defender the executive and a console
00:24:31| console free is that it's a someone who's carrying social popular and always even without the Terkel negative nope nope nope explorers the virtuoso the adventurer the entrepreneur and the
00:24:46| Entertainer so this is the interesting part and sound like jerk-off no well they're gonna spin it in the positive method but I can see I get C battling with the defender or a commander yeah a
00:24:58| command or uh what's the other one the boss executive or something like so the Entertainer is something that is it's funny I didn't get that role that's interesting hmm
00:25:11| well they are completely opposite of what I am every category is the opposite which makes sense I'm entertained by them and I enjoy them but when I try to talk to them it doesn't make sense yeah
00:25:26| it doesn't make cuz nothing of my ideology matches up with what their ideology matches up with it makes sense to me hmm and that also yes strengths and weaknesses for your your own class
00:25:41| here yeah I was gonna say that the Entertainer actually out of albers me for two one two as well so it's pretty crazy what number is that what percent bucket eight percent um close to my
00:25:53| number huh entertainer going up against the campaigner does he want do you wanna play chess they don't Blake checkers look like it bunched up so yeah like all all the kids watching today yeah try to
00:26:06| keep it keep it wholesome I'm trying to keep it hosel just a campaigner folks do you want to hear my weaknesses I know them but yeah okay I'm arrogant judgmental analytical overly so I loathe
00:26:20| structured environments and I'm clueless and romance romance maybe not I'm romantical structured environments though I do we have a special guest on hit your wife
00:26:34| I don't think she'd ever make it no I don't think it I don't think she wants to be on this no I'll take your girlfriend listen y'all have to see their magadhan yeah week campaign
00:26:52| weaknesses I have poor practical skills wrong I find it difficult to focus in correct i overthink things false I get stressed easily we're actually probably a little false highly emotional that's
00:27:06| bullshit and independent to a fault it wasn't listening I was doing my own thing yeah I agree with one - and the last one yeah I could see that yeah make sense the structured environments thing
00:27:19| I could definitely it bothers me a lot to be in a structured environment today I want because it's a waste of time you see it as a waste of time exactly I went for jury duty today I've been waiting on
00:27:35| it for so long it was that's like that's the whole reason we have a podcast so you can say hey jury do the other day it's like a Jerry Seinfeld intro yeah jury duty
00:27:45| oh boy so you essentially we waited all day find out that we didn't have to do anything yeah because they plead out they pled out six hours I wish you he should listen to the episode where we
00:27:57| talk about plea deals versus don't get a jury yeah judge juries like 80 something percent guilty versus a judge which is like 60% guilty so you go to jury you're fudged thank you hardcore right in the
00:28:13| blue tang itch so that was highly structured and I think I'm just sitting there biting my tongue waiting and the weird thing about jury duties that you never know who you're really going to be
00:28:31| judging they don't tell you unless you're actually there so there's 60 people waiting on this one person to take a plea deal and those 60 people don't know what they wasted their
00:28:41| entire day for they don't know what these being judged for what day I mean that's kind of weird I don't know can you oh yeah I guess I want there to be a reason that I can
00:28:52| link to for why I spent all day and but please internet like a car accident like you sit in traffic for like 40 minutes because there's an accident up ahead and everyone slows down at the accident cuz
00:29:03| I gotta get lanes and you're like this wide up frig is everyone gonna slow down look at this we could be home by now oh my god that's a leg and so I can see his leg slow down take a picture run in your
00:29:17| car and take a picture at the same time oh my god this is great and then you get past it you're like I friggin hate traffic is that as you're posting on social media I'm gonna get so many likes
00:29:30| on this one get some hits on this bad boy I actually saw a really bad car accident on Delaware do you know Delaware's the worst state car accident you go to Delaware and it's
00:29:50| like I went on vacation down there one of the beaches like in Rehoboth area check it out folks you want to Rehoboth robat Rove the beach no it's like it's like ten minutes away claimants actually
00:30:03| about 20 minutes away because Delaware's all highways huh so you going to Delaware and it's like it's flat it's just the flattest stupidest State there's no sales tax you can't even I'm
00:30:15| trying to put this into words but like any spike in your life is like interesting like I said whoa I can't believe that happened to him whoa he had to pay sales tax whoa there's a mountain
00:30:29| here Delaware there's no whoa you don't pay sales tax it's like you buy a computer for like $7.99 back in the day that's it there's nothing extra you don't go to the register and you're like
00:30:43| oh my god I forgot we're going to pay extra for sales tax that everyone's going crazy and you're crossing your fingers it's not too much because you're not doing the math that quick you're
00:30:52| like please please please please please please please we're counting on ya not Delaware Delaware they're like $7.99 you're like oh no plus tax what is it they're like
00:31:04| that's it and you're like really and then you drive home and you can look everywhere you can see the whole state at once it's like very flat hmm like the biggest thing is the buildings and the
00:31:15| buildings all suck so it's like weird yeah it's nothing like a big trash pile or something you drive through a new work um but the reason I got into this whole story was because we were driving
00:31:30| and it's like it's just highways like hello where's highways and then superstores like it's like a Taco Bell and every whatever McDonald's a target like you just drive down highways right
00:31:40| you go to superstore so you went goodbye it's a big square yeah yeah I saw the most awesome wreck some dude somehow in a three lane highway of Route one he must have been trying to make a ride
00:31:55| somewhere I'm not sure where he must have hit a sign that runs into this like super mall and he hit the sign spun around a closed super mall cuz it's like it's got like 50 stores in it yeah I
00:32:06| know shamrock okay okay so he hits the Sun and one of the buildings towards the front is like wasn't the Bank of America it was like some kind of bank or something you know banks are always
00:32:17| towards the front he spun landed into it and reverse and just slashed his car and smashed the building and smashed the sign and smashed like traffic everywhere who is so awesome we're slowing down
00:32:31| look and I was like oh damn it made my night um there's the highlight of my vacation are you trying to look at yourself in the eye a m-- why am i half the screen shouldn't I be the whole
00:32:41| screen I'm not watching a twitch I'm talking to you in discord yeah but you can make me the whole screen in discord why am i does it say that in campaign I mean really I like to see myself you're
00:32:58| lucky you're not smaller than me when I look at this I would be like well how do I look right now I gotta pay attention to my look people watching this video might really be
00:33:10| interested in the way I look tonight mmm defamation you're perfect I have a broken nose okay folks see ya that's a deviated septum I broke it an OPA the concert we're not gonna get into
00:33:21| it tonight my sunglasses when they sit sometimes sit like this I look like an angle that's a campaigner thing okay so I have to constantly overcorrect my nose sunglasses issue so I have this big so I
00:33:36| can make sure my segment is look fun so conscious now taking them up all right thank you I had acne all week look I'm like 30-some years old got acne how does anyone there this is stress no it's
00:33:50| because I'm Italian okay I have oily or skin the most individuals but the good news is I won't get as wrinkly and old looking as you may be I mean I'm simply the only miss generalities dad's
00:34:03| Italians are oily ER so we're assignments that's what I'm saying like ariana grande let's go away no because what would you say you're not Italian you can't say this so you can say that
00:34:15| ariana grande is gonna stay it's gonna stay beautiful and young skin's gonna look gorgeous forever because she's Italian and not Hispanic is she Italian she is Italian
00:34:28| hopefully smooth I just read a thing where that guy who died blamed her or people are blaming her the was that the preacher that touched her boob no no that was me was it Mac Miller oh he
00:34:44| didn't he had a bad life he did well here we need the whole episode on what his life was good or bad did he make more money and touch more people and work with more people than
00:34:56| maybe we ever will if he dated ariana grande he had a pretty good life oh my god I'd seen your YouTube history back on track because one of the people at home were like I didn't listen to them
00:35:11| talk about personality or personality traits so they've kind of said that personality types are kind of bullshit actually because you're like a certain percentage yeah
00:35:24| okay I was like 60% something and like given day it could be either/or but the trades actually kind of lined them up so they're openness to experience which makes sense whether you're curious or
00:35:36| cautious Briggs Myers or someone else I don't know who actually said these uh okay that's fine it's just not Briggs Meyer it's almost not yet somebody else okay so they're saying personality is
00:35:46| broken down to openness to experience that's one big piece right yep yep and then conscientiousness oh how much you feel the world is about you versus the worlds about someone else yeah since the
00:35:58| me efficient organized versus easygoing or careless conscientious do they have to be at odds um I I think it has to do with like the perception of other people's perception of you so if you
00:36:10| feel like you need to be in a certain state to prove yourself to others then your dollar yeah don't look over there so if you don't care what other people think of you you're careless or
00:36:21| easygoing or disorganized that makes sense actually mm-hm and then extraversion which everyone kind of agrees introvert extrovert
00:36:29| what are you right right there's no getting around that one no one's kind of agreeableness like how good you are to other people or whether you're gonna be a bulwark they're gonna be difficult so
00:36:42| this goes back to one two picks ago like it's a little bit like how much you think you're important portents egotistical where's another person yeah yeah yeah a little bit and then there's
00:36:54| neuroticism which is exactly egotistical which is you being so nervous that you can't control yourself or you're secure and confident that you will power through any situation would not to throw
00:37:07| back or put pressure on it but Carl Carl Jung Jung Yong Yong I don't know it's a both Keys AJ and Y at the same time Carl Jeong Jeong Carl Jung Jung Carly um there I said
00:37:28| this is out really if I swear there he was more was the introduction himself personally no no his own thing there's no boy oh boy oh boy I'm sorry too hash back I was trying to compare it
00:37:45| to what we just talked about he does have an extrovert and introvert in hey that was like definitely singing okay that was you know those big ones mm-hmm it's weird that that's seems to be a one
00:37:55| that runs through all these right yeah whether people are going to be outgoing in certain situations is really what you're trying to figure out not even certain situations just what situations
00:38:06| people tend to be outgoing in like you saw with beige that's exactly what I said you're saying like in certain situations but I mean there's a situation every five minutes like will
00:38:19| like fart on a podcast yeah I would fart our pockets I don't know that it I probably had that next revert thing right I I don't know I mean I'm alone in this room I guess but am I alone in this
00:38:44| if you're in a crowd of people do you still fart a room full of people not usually I mean I'll hold it in and that's like what's the situation looks any people so
00:38:54| like how many leaves cuz like a fart will go back up and then come back out and you'll be like no like how many times you hold it in cuz I usually get to the fourth or fifth time and I'm just
00:39:03| I don't I don't get waves like that I know what you're saying like it'll come back later but um if mine disappears then like who by the way you'd be like you're like I'm not in the same place we
00:39:15| met him I'm still in the same elevator button then we're all stuck on here we can't I think this there's treasure there's throw our hopes closed or closed or
00:39:37| actually thinking of do you know I did right before the pike and started there's a new video game out I know you don't stay on top of the stuff called scum I heard about this they had a
00:39:47| tattoo on the guy's neck you can poop poop and pee and throw up so the new thing is it like a world you're like in a world with other people doing the same thing yeah you can yeah and you can hear
00:39:58| all you getting creepy and yes so hold on I only got to see like 20 minutes of footage because I was trying to jump around I wanted to find someone hard on people or poop on people but
00:40:10| anyway it's a open world survival game it'd make millions oh it's like the game what's the one we played not that by daylight the one before that Carsley bar thank you
00:40:21| it's like that but it's your prisoners and whatever and you got tattoos and your and it's like a little bit like meats pick up PU BG with telecom play around in battle gram okay because
00:40:33| there's all these people and you have to you know get armor and whatever it's the cool thing is you can poop on people and pee and throw up like these are bodily functions you can release your bladders
00:40:46| full desert as Vantage to doing it one percent faster well it relieves a pressure valve I guess like if you don't pee at all like you're in trouble I think you're in trouble but I do this by
00:41:08| accident dad joke that do anyway we got on top of a little bit but yeah I can't wait I felt it would be such a great episode if we could poop and pee on things
00:41:22| you're the extrovert you can go right ahead I will keep that to my private self Brad brings us to the word of the word of the podcast what's the word the pipe yeah uh surgeon see so trait aspect
00:41:40| of emotional reactivity in which a person tends towards high levels of positive affect which means they're they're a affect their persona whole in which they affect other people
00:41:52| not affect they affect with a big a it's how much yeah it's there their face their posture the way they present themselves to others I see what you're saying yeah so this respect by Bourbon
00:42:06| good so surgeons see a little bit you are a surgeon see is the way that people like interact with the other people so if you're highly Sergent than you're you're coming off it's like someone
00:42:16| who's very confident and very self-assured and then you're also saying like you're like happy and all those positive things all those positive things are showing to the other person
00:42:25| so people with high surgeon C usually are extroverts and they like the people okay that makes sense you're trying to show people you're happy you're trying to make people however you're trying to
00:42:34| give off an air of happiness or whatever it might be yeah unlike most of the women I've dated in my past they have very I'd surgeon see towards
00:42:46| me they've had a negative em effect effect hmm that's all could be the subject matter they're dating but we're not gonna get into that mmm yeah so how long pause long pause forever those
00:43:06| listening Dan was flexing his chest area it looked like he gained a tiny bit of weight but I'm a muscular nerd now isn't that the hottest guy Chris Pratt oh I don't know that he was a runner yeah he
00:43:23| was on Andy and uh he's kind of a goober oh okay goober is different you know we do our zone that igress hmm so what do you you were gonna leave into something and I know what it is but I'm gonna lead
00:43:41| you into what you're gonna lead into your report is there you go workers know so workers um I feel like we all see these quizzes on Facebook we see them all over the world you can huffington
00:44:00| post buzz I found the first one on BuzzFeed it was ten types of the worker that every office has and it's like oh here we go again like that aggression that feeling
00:44:11| yachting is that an emotion that's an emotion yeah I think so for most people I mean 30 percent of buds ah did you come almost that number did you use my number please your number goddamnit he's
00:44:23| good number before we started airing thirty and eight percent of people worked for corporations so that means thirty eight percent of people working like an office setting with more than
00:44:34| twenty people it's like I work at all this side of the cube oh I there's a mailman there's a guy does this there's a guy do this like that's its bidding business to find roles CFO yes define
00:44:45| roles for everyone anyway once we go into one of these businesses which is apparently almost just under half I mean almost forty percent right yeah but people are singing a podcast many of
00:44:57| them are probably involved in these giant hive corporations right okay how they're part of the conglomerate or they have no like Rocko's Modern Life man this is like so depressing is Lama Lama
00:45:10| yeah we own you is Amara that's a good motto no we own you they used to make everything from A to B in Rocco just do whatever they told them to do and it was always stupid or didn't make sense that
00:45:24| he did it anyway those highly structured environments that I hate I'm open the boss is always spitting and yelling I feeling like okay he was a toad or something right into giant lips yeah yes
00:45:36| and the cigar yes yes not to be confused with the big heads who live next door to him which were frogs and we're always freaking getting busy edie and bev bighead might have been the
00:45:49| horniest cartoon couple a full time I'm just saying this because I tried to research this online but I feel like it bad was always like Edie mm-hmm and blinking her eyes and I'm here
00:46:05| raising of his voice I feel like they were always inferring that those two banged like those two were non-stop banging and they were ugly they were out of
00:46:16| shape they were they weren't beautiful in any fashion of the word well they're that's what made their love more beautiful and pure than most others it's the overtones and undertones at the same
00:46:31| time yeah it's weird because like I would never look at them as like inspirational or attractive or the subject matter I want to discuss on a podcast but when you think about it ed
00:46:47| embeds big head they begged for us the children who watch that cartoon this kicks shebang for the children hashtag bang for kids oh man every corporation that has employees which is
00:47:17| a lot of us we all work in corporations and tell me guys I get it to work with over 20 people we all have these these are the type so we all work in a corporation I got the ten types we all
00:47:32| work with Oh number one the Swamp Thing oh he's so busy oh yeah I got paperwork I can't talk right now I got stuff to do I can't talk right now I'm real busy can you do
00:47:45| this I'm busy that's swamp there I got everything on my list but my two little to-do list my my board has just got stuff all over it so uh
00:47:54| number two's my favorite cool boss we're cool as in quotes amen I don't have to wear a tie I do this hey I'm like you you know damn I just make twenty thousand dollars a year more I
00:48:11| don't know why we go to meetings man it's stupid but anyway if you would fill out the form and say I didn't sex Ashu that's great cool boss says things like hey you into 50 cent I saw him last
00:48:28| Wednesday at the mall he wasn't rapid I just saw him at the mall but he's that's pretty cool that's cool boss I mean chef Michael Scott were level but not yeah there's a little bit
00:48:39| of money Michael Scott is cool boss number three oversharer you know god I'm number four I gotta give one-speed some credit usually they're all their articles of
00:48:49| garbage and this one's garbage too but charlie brown noser i see what they've been there the office comedian guy who tells it like it is he always raised his hand in a meeting
00:49:04| and says I gotta say it like it is this is my favorite one number six weird IT guy like in all these Lister's IT guys a weirdo why yeah there can be weirdos
00:49:20| anywhere Linds I agree take the whole IT department next we gots a Danny Glover which in the quote says doesn't have to be black doesn't have to be Danny Glover doesn't
00:49:33| have to be an old man but usually is older and usually says back in my day we didn't have these dang emails I'm getting too old for this login stuff yeah I'm like I can see number nine we
00:49:49| have the gym rat the guy who's always will be too in shape and is going to the gym after and before work everyday and so that's not really an office based one that's a just universal yeah it is
00:49:59| no no it's office base because he comes to work and he's always getting changed back into his office stuff and you're like no one else is getting changed here chase no sweat in the shower - yeah
00:50:08| you're like you're in damn shape dude stop taking off your clothes at work and last but not least is the social director socialism caps because they're so over the top getting that softball
00:50:19| team together trying to get a Saturday night plan together you know the office Olympics yeah yeah yeah you know which is this list is good like yeah we can kind of get there like
00:50:32| SOI googled office types lol best of like office type 25 office type 20 office type best of office type I started googling different things because I like to yeah you poke around
00:50:45| mess around so then employment hub Co which is a UK simple Co they came up with a 15 type that's at every job and I'll just run from the quiet one the moody one the
00:51:00| dream crusher the talker the honest Joker the office scapegoat none of my business one the cooler the big surprise used to love him now I hate him the slacker that eater the hard
00:51:14| worker to motivate her the responsible one and boss's pet and I was like okay that's probably good list - I mean right yeah yeah it's pretty good list it is so then I I came up with a 23-point list
00:51:31| like Jesus Christ so lists for everything this one was on oddly the Odyssey online.com number one the self elected dictator of social enrichment the NARC the partier most hated the
00:51:46| overly entitled one secret mass murderer the whiner the ghost the grandparent oversharer drill sergeant the master date the mass dater the pledge the brag or the
00:52:02| optimist the gossip the next Bill Gates the wild card the gym rat the comedian the hotness the eye candy the perfect employee and it occurred to me looking at all these stupid lists that they're
00:52:20| all the same damn lists right pretty much you're going more than 16 types so at some point the types are kind of overlapping right they are I would argue that they can overlap at less than 16
00:52:33| and it more than 16 somewhere in the same range though you can't go you can't just keep going eventually you're gonna name the same people you can but I mean the mass murderer is similar
00:52:45| to the wild card right if you're convinced murderer you quite certainly are a wild card no one saw that coming you killed people I guess so borrowing some traits but that's also that could
00:53:00| be the bragger actually I doubt it that's fine it's gonna be the most hated though oh it could be the most hated right yeah I don't know just like it's hated in the office when you say some of
00:53:17| these it reminds me of specific people that I can't bring up one for my dearest oh okay that's right do you know all these types it is true was that you're saying so like probably like 70% of them
00:53:29| I could link to people of course it depends on your office setting right thinks your office setting your office knowledge if you had been bounced around to different corporations you probably
00:53:41| would inter counter most of these people whereas my past 10 years or so have been spent in like the same type of AUSA's office setting and I've been in like maybe three or four different offices
00:53:53| with people and there were I guess visible what you'd say like how close I was the close proximity I probably close proximity to like maybe barely remember the ones in the
00:54:08| beginning so probably more like 20 so it'll make a weird argument anytime you work in a place has over 30 people over interaction that allows you to get to know them all so I mean that's just
00:54:26| logic right think Malcolm Gladwell breaks it down to you can't no more than your best friends at a certain time yeah a certain time so like they design new kid do you have the new your kid
00:54:44| take care but no but he says they design like military units and like business units to have no more than 150 people so if you're interacting with more than hundred 50 people you're gonna forget
00:54:58| anybody that's 150 150 250 people at your job you don't know all of them well you're probably like the facial recognition I want to mean now yeah sure facially recognized but you don't know
00:55:12| anything about the person like dude do you know anything about the mail guy at your job how many people actually share their personal life that's the crazy thing is that you go around a corporate
00:55:18| environment no one ever talks about what they really feel like there's the oversharer which will tell you that but then the other personality types will always be other type personality types
00:55:28| that won't beat on the campaigner type okay mm-hmm but I would argue I can figure out a lot about people just from John my five-minute interactions with them I'm not asking them what's your
00:55:38| personal life he'll never say that this on this illusive man that's weird but I get to talking about about the Eagles or something like that and I'm like hey what's going on in would you do over the
00:55:47| weekend look just something like that and be like ah you know I got a I got a dog he's he's gonna die oh I'm sorry I didn't I didn't know a you had a dog can be that it's dying
00:55:59| I'm really so like I just found out my coworker like who I don't know and don't know if he likes dogs or not his dogs dying and all but I'm sorry he said we're gonna put it down this week
00:56:10| and I was like that's great that's great what do you say that's bad but good oh good on sorry but what I'm getting at is you don't get to know everyone in your office even if it's 50 people so would
00:56:26| it be easier to remember them as a trope or like a build up stereotype that's the nerd that's the office slut like that's that's the goofy guy who always says the funny thing like it's easier to do that
00:56:39| isn't it songs were aimed at that time I'll bring in something anecdotal here is I worked in an area that probably has a thousand people working but in my like the vicinity of people I deal with on a
00:56:50| daily basis is probably around 60 or 70 people so uh I mean I don't interact with them and I don't know very much of what's going on with them but even when I leave
00:57:00| and I'm walking around I see people that do not interact on a like a visual scale so they're not even like receptive to people being like looking at them and saying hi how are you like it's very
00:57:12| weird that like people would be that close like walking by one another like senator wise yeah they're not even there like mentally they're checked out so you can't even if I wanted to I could break
00:57:24| I'd be like hey link lean into their like view which is down on the ground and be like are you hey how's it going hey ya know float down but you don't you just can't break into people's like
00:57:42| stream of consciousness it doesn't it doesn't bode well I mean you can but it most people in my vicinity that are probably more introverted probably won't appreciate it
00:57:51| maybe that's what I do better than anything in the world do you break into people's dream consciousness and then maybe I know that sounds really weird and they're like something but my
00:58:01| favorite thing is like when I'm at a new place like this I don't know anyone the new job I just started like I can't tell if someone's a boss someone who's like way above me someone who's below me so I
00:58:11| was on my level someone who's new someone who's just visiting and wearing a suit I think it's no way for me to know I'll be like yo you guys catch that earlier like a Hyksos old cat they don't
00:58:24| like cats in here good I'll catch you later man and then I'll walk away like that's it that's no wonder I didn't really face god I just wanted to start a conversation to see if he was like cool
00:58:38| or not like you imagine feels like they don't allow cats here I would know all I know about that guy like I'm good but he was like understand I want to see if you're cool you're cool I see if there's
00:58:53| a way you just II throw random stuff at people and you can tell if they're interesting or not that's what like for me in an office setting boils down to whether you're interesting or not and I
00:59:06| wish the fluid this is why we work and this is why we work together way this honestly like I enjoy when people break into that stream of consciousness and then say something ridiculous and
00:59:17| then I'll respond to it with something equally ridiculous or more right you have to sir I mean life's too short just keep doing the same thing over and over right so many people do look down floor
00:59:28| and keep going like it's stupid it doesn't seem like like you're missing out on opportunity maybe and I'm not saying you got to be best friends with everyone else but at least like throw a
00:59:38| weird question at them so I've got anyone I've been doing this weird thing so like I'm in a weird phase where I'm like stretching out and spidering out and I've gone on LinkedIn now and I
00:59:48| started friending in like before like LinkedIn would be like do you want to add these 200 people you don't really know but are in your email list I'm like no that's weird it's weird now yesterday
00:59:59| I did it I was like 20 people people click and I was like let's see what happens well anyway my value with my LinkedIn connection with you just went down yeah
01:00:16| right cuz I'm like wow he's not unpainted and isn't linked in with a lot of people this guy must be really Noah guy now they look this guy connects with friggin everyone people too many people
01:00:27| the weird thing is that I can now look at people that are like responding and friending me and I click on them and then I'm like I look through their list computer their stuff yeah and then I
01:00:38| could be like I knew that person like 10 years ago I knew that person and then I friends mm-hmm this is still like post college like when I first started my career
01:00:47| because I worked at the same company for that long that like I was like this person quit like when I first started I remember them and then I friended them and I started talking to them and I'm
01:00:55| like this is like bizarre is like welcome to oh yeah who said me cuz I'm initiating I'm the initiator in this this whole thing because they're looking down at the ground are you sure you're
01:01:09| an architect it's a mistake architects nothing in our critic does this Omar maybe I'm architecting something else mm-hm but it feels good to do that because then you find out
01:01:24| thoughts that other people have of you and it lets you have insight to yourself because you can ask him like hey you remember me or do you remember the time or like what do you think of this
01:01:35| situation and like these people are they're not in my life at whatsoever and will never be back into my life they don't have to be there's no onus on it no Honus
01:01:45| I used honest food I love onus you unbutton a button every time I say on this or someone says onus so I wanted to bring it back and make it more relative to most people but so most people have a
01:01:57| manager and the different types of managers kind of reflect upon the different personality types go for it so we got CB describe my manager my new manager who I love all business comm has
01:02:08| like seven I'm sassy seven a sort of number one the promise problem-solving one it's the one that's just like trying to like break down things and like get rid of them and lock them down one by
01:02:19| one hmm and then the pitchfork manager is one that's like heavy-handed he's the one who tries to like pretty much she looks she or she I have had female
01:02:33| managers and I'm not saying they're either or of this type and then number three is the pontificating one the one who talks way too much and doesn't solve anything
01:02:43| I've had that the presumptuous one has ones that are self-centered focused on themselves I haven't had too many of these I don't I don't think they survive right on that's not a managerial thing
01:02:57| it is weird because managers aren't that selfish what do you think about it I mean they can be but in different way not uh that's weird I never thought of that managers don't like to just focus
01:03:09| on themselves whole time they literally put the onus on you yeah that's the whole point of being a manager right is that you're looking at what other people are doing and making sure they do a
01:03:17| better job at shaving their chest I shaved my neck oh okay I'll get there whatever I can't okay the perfect manager I don't know why they doesn't make sense why
01:03:33| would they put that in this listing skip um because they who made the listing yeah all business comm they're done all business that comes down the passive manager understand this manager doesn't
01:03:44| want to do anything they probably don't know really what they're doing so they're just hands-off lays a fair I think that's my new manager I like him hey that's I like that that type of
01:03:55| manager and then the proactive one who always wants to like knock down the next peg that leads into like management styles though so there's essentially like author authoritative it's a
01:04:09| persuasive one the one that's trying to get you to do something by saying whatever range it ranch oh yeah that's kind of like the I'll meet your buddy buddy I'm your bro I'm your bro and then
01:04:18| I'm your bro I know we're managers but I'm your bro so there's like the equal footing idea there level footing is persuasive and then the paternalistic ones that are above you
01:04:30| but still trying to be familial your father and I love you but I'm practically your father yeah and these are all the autocratic ones and this one is also like exploitative or
01:04:42| authoritative so like their dictators good and then the Democratic ones okay yeah Democratic ones there's the ones that are like consultants the ones that like they like you like they come to you
01:04:56| for advice they're like what do you think about this and then you just tell person you know I think those a sneakiest ones because like they could go all out information differently right
01:05:09| they can be like ah I don't know what to do about this situation what would you do and they give you a situation and then like two days later they're releasing a company mandate that totally
01:05:19| used your input but like in a weird way and you're like oh I kind of said something to that manager and they like didn't talk with you because you're just an employee and they managed based on
01:05:29| your opinion and fired someone they were like yeah we fired the guy and you're like I didn't say to fire him I just said I wouldn't trust him okay I have there's like snake in the grass see a
01:05:39| little bit almost there's one manager who said to me he was talking about a specific employee and he said do you think he's worth X amount of dollars oh that's neat you don't want to mess with
01:05:54| someone else's money yeah I couldn't answer that question I mean who say you get him part and he still works there feeling guilty oh you're not gonna say like oh I think he's worth X amount of
01:06:06| dollars like that that's a bomb he's only worth thirty one thousand dollars that's a question to test you and not to judge the other person so you never answer that one oh should be should be
01:06:17| yeah but yeah he's trying to be a little bit consultant consultant and then parse it collaborative and parse it Parsa potata v' that's hard per se so like a participant like someone who's
01:06:31| like actively involved in what you're doing he's trying to be like a comrade and collaborate with hell we've tried I'm in here with you guys I'm in the Box hole I'm in your foxhole and I'm like
01:06:42| what's my foxhole man it's deep and furry and then you have she unshaved yeah well it gets furrier the way yeah gross and I see have like say affair which is the delegate of one this one
01:06:59| that just says you know do your job Kelly got it yeah I got it I think it is sure sure sure delegative but it would be wrong so those are also blow managed like I like
01:07:21| I I read people really well so I can tell what type of manager they are when I start talking to them and certain ones you need to avoid I'm gonna be honest the ones that are consultive you
01:07:32| probably need to get away from because they can be shady any ones that are like pot ticket pontificating one still wants to talk too much probably want to avoid them too because usually you can figure
01:07:43| out that they're not talking about the people they work with or they're there are co-workers or the people that are under them if their pontiff pontificating too much
01:07:52| they're talking about other things and just trying to be they're trying to spin things essentially so I would avoid those two types of managers anything that's funny
01:08:01| micromanage or - I'd avoid them well okay well most people don't get a choice with all this stuff that you're talking about I agree most people don't get to move around or shift or get away from
01:08:11| people that are holding them on can do it is way you longer scale like it's not like I didn't like these guys this week I'm gonna try next week with a new job it definitely is a year like if you want
01:08:23| to shift away from a manager and takes months two years to really get away from which is crazy it affects your life big-time yeah sometimes it sucks a lot a longing loss
01:08:34| - have you ever been a manager I have yeah I've I've had a team of I think four people and we're really like I was the type that laid out the goals and said this is your objective completed if
01:08:50| you can't and then if you can't you come back and you tell me why you good even get anyone on your team you like reach out to you at all or everybody completed their goals never talk to you they would
01:09:03| I'd be like a little bit consultive so like people would ask me like one or two questions and then I hope that they finished it and then the status was always with so I have a customer and a
01:09:13| manager above me so the meetings would always be the people who were below me plus two levels above me so it held them to their actions and they would tell me what they did or didn't do hmm so I mean
01:09:26| there's not much I can do in the situation where I work in a unique field where things break and it's not anyone's fault so they had excuses for why things didn't work all the time and we were
01:09:38| slowly building up to doing something that never got funding what's weird is you described all the managers and manager types there are mm-hmm but I don't think you included yourself at all
01:09:55| you wouldn't say that I was lazy fair and consultive and sure no I I guess you were oh are you saying you were a bunch of them at once yeah I mean you have to play it off too if you're if you're an
01:10:06| intelligent person then not stuck in one mindset then you're being flexible depending on who you're talking so here's a thing that plays into every um panders episode we ever do yep
01:10:15| it plays in every trope we ever talk about a place in every everything we ever talk about I'm not even trying we do a whole episode on this it's human beings think of their ex and they trying
01:10:25| to purvey that their Y and other people perceive that their Z right mm-hmm but with stuff coming on at once yeah and what we just talked about it's a lot of x and y but what are we actually I I
01:10:40| mean we started the episode with that but I don't know that we can figure out the answer because do you think your employees were like I use a night manager but like I never really saw him
01:10:50| it was like oh way he would look up here once a month and be like are you done like do you mean like what's the what's the worst way people perceive you as a manager think of that I wouldn't even
01:11:03| put it as manager the most obvious way whatever understanding perception of people is when you're dating people so like dating somebody and then breaking like managing someone no I'm
01:11:14| not talking about the I'm sorry but like if you break up with somebody and they don't want to talk to you anymore I mean they are a type of person and I read you a certain way and they decided
01:11:26| that they weren't going to mesh with your personality they break it off and then for me I'm always not wondering like what did you see that didn't work for you so I'm trying to judge what
01:11:36| their personality is and figure out what they judged my personality was and then try to tweak it based on weird because I never thought of this which is another implement of personality right yeah I
01:11:49| serve something like you might think about this I didn't until you just brought it up it's like if I should you've never gotten like you've never been broken up with kind of course I had
01:11:58| but I never was like like I didn't break it down and be like what elements of my relationship ability did you think were not compatible your eligibility and I never got the
01:12:09| research paper that documented what percentage do you think I was in compatible when lovemaking or possibly romantic gestures like you know I don't know it's strange
01:12:22| I guess so this is you're leaning back achill yes but this is leaning back to me being only like two percent of the population versus like most people are you know there's four times as many of
01:12:33| these people out there that don't understand that I'm questioning like what what is it what you saw does it compare to what I saw versus what should I be versus like people don't even go to
01:12:44| that level they just say like I wasn't I didn't like this this relationship it's over and I'm just like well why other people are just like it didn't work and now like that's happened like a lot of
01:12:56| relationships so like I date like four people in a row that are all not my type of person and it doesn't make sense to me I'm like you would think that you would have an equal amount of people
01:13:06| that would be reflective and say well you were this and I was wondering this and it's like Oh finally someone gets it but it would take like ten people before you got one that was like here's the
01:13:19| answer that you are looking for but you have to make sure you understand my perspective as well I'm gonna say something here that I don't usually do on the others do it we're gonna play a
01:13:31| stand a little bit hit me this is so weird so we all think of our personality type I'm a campaign campaigners are perfect in my opinion and actually I'm an
01:13:42| architect on building toward something everybody right perfect right you're the smallest percentage because you guys are the best right everyone thinks I'll take it well right yes everyone thinks us
01:13:53| everyone thinks it I would say to Dan architect I'm painter Dan the fact that you feel that way about relationships or breakups the reason people don't give you that feedback or don't give you any
01:14:06| of this other stuff or don't break any as I'm tired in my personality well because you're wasting time what if your ultimate defect is that you literally spend so much time analyzing
01:14:16| things are trying to find analytical data that your it's wasted time it's like telling someone hey when we had sex why was it good and someone's like I
01:14:25| don't know it just it was good why do we stop doing this I don't know because it's stupid bad and your defect is that you focus hyper focus on one thing and maybe you like I need to know why was it
01:14:37| not percentage-wise good or bad and you're like it sound like goddamnit I don't know and then answering this questions more wasted time I'm not I don't know but that's what that's your
01:14:48| only defect dude hey how would you know it is because I like to analyze almost everything I'd like to understand almost everything and if I can't go back and like relive it I'm gonna keep pinging
01:15:01| the person be like why and that's what beat us off all of my exes that'd be like but can you what about this question I'd be like just just stop [Laughter]
01:15:15| right no it's part of my personality or at least it was company types are real I don't I have no idea I sometimes think it's like cars go pull shit a little bit like everyone likes the other good
01:15:26| things like you're very outgoing and you can change the world with your ideas and something it's like they could say that for most people not everybody but most people right I also think there's a
01:15:37| sexist version of it too that like people don't talk about how if you're a male you have certain personality types of your female you have certain personality types the percentage is
01:15:44| probably vary widely between the two sexes as I can't imagine that there's a female version of me out there with the same kind of questions the same type of personality I don't think it's an equal
01:15:55| message weird I was gonna guess that this female percentage of architect or whatever is probably in the two percent range you think that the females are the majority or you think there are a
01:16:07| fraction of a fraction of but I think it's the same fraction that there are fraction of men maybe two percent somewhat number but like to interact with a female that is an architect type
01:16:18| and define them and date them it's almost impossible I would agree with that there we go my type is an argument just I was making it validates me as a person
01:16:31| though searching for that architect type is almost impossible and then eventually you find them in your like wolf f ever figures people out there don't even know
01:16:42| what working with other people is which is crazy up till a nao is were just working with like three people the fact that though that I knew them so well like it was like relatives and people I
01:16:55| work with on did they basis when I work with like three or four people like I know them so well so they don't just fill the trope like it's like gym rat guy like Jim rec I is also a conspiracy
01:17:08| theorist also he he wets the bed also he talked about his daughter too much also he friggin is late every Friday but no other day of the week like there's so many weird things
01:17:20| that don't fill into the trope there's seven billion people in the world I think I think these tropes get dangerous where we think everyone will fill one of fifteen or sixteen personality types
01:17:31| when really you lean towards a personality type and then you have your own stuff going on would you agree I do seven billion of us drinking wine here doing a podcast nice it's an old wine
01:17:48| but it pretty kind of 2018 it is this has been opening our fridge it's half open aha it's up to here it's been there for at least a month so I'm not sure if that's
01:18:02| bad or retaining the flavors of the fridge gain up do you know the fridge in Delaware every time you open did it smell like fish mmm most are fresh in there was the question that no boy no
01:18:18| you know that storm we had wait oh you don't know I don't know east coast has been bombarded by bad weather I went on vacation for two days do you know how much it rained every day every hour
01:18:35| extreme wind in excess of 40 miles an hour one night extreme rain almost hurricane force so I have one brother-in-law I won't get into his personality type cleats he
01:18:48| drinks a lot I needed a lot of fun we stripped into our arm unders the other word unders yeah and ran into the hurricane onto the beach which was awesome because a storm surge through
01:19:03| the wood ER like 18 feet above usual it went all the way up to our sand dune huh oh I'm telling you the house almost flooded there were it was coming in the the sliding glass door was it made for
01:19:17| this kind of rain it's horizontal rain because it's being pelted at the house because we're beachfront property we were stated mm-hmm started leaking it into the door which then made it into
01:19:26| Joyce's and followed along the Joyce's we had two holes that appeared in the ceiling and started ripping the ceiling apart and dripping into our house way to call the people we ran in from we're
01:19:35| like we didn't do this your house is is falling to pieces another thing that's weird did you know toilets always have to have a ventilation like the water is always on
01:19:47| the plumbing has to come up to a point where the atmosphere touches it I don't really know the vacuum what you're talking about I'm getting into this you're in a
01:19:57| hurricane and you're in a house with a toilet the water raises and false crazy levels while you were standing there looking at it I was like dude what's going on the
01:20:10| toilet he's like you don't know you know in the house atmosphere is going up and down windows going crazy like the wind wasn't shaking the pipes that just the atmosphere water level was being
01:20:22| fluctuated by the wind yeah this happens in extreme hurricane genera coastal area and then fish fridge does that play into this somehow no but I did get nude and not nude but licking my underwear and
01:20:35| ran out into the storm so that would be cool just to feel a hurricane and be on the beach everything a 40 mile an hour and wind no her I felt like I was hitting with needles every part of my
01:20:46| body was getting pelted with raindrops that felt like sharp pin drops it was terrible and then I turned my back on it it was just pin drops in my back so shout out personality type extrovert
01:21:02| works real hard with drinks-a-lot brother-in-law shout out there's another reason I brought this up there's one other thing get into oh he's not passive-aggressive
01:21:13| like other people everyone had job does passive-aggressive so drop a hint hoping that you get it and then you never do and then they become more aggressive until they stop
01:21:25| doing I mentioned in my memo earlier yeah you don't have a passive-aggressive stuff of your job I'm too blunt oh you're not passive or dancing yeah well don't be passive-aggressive and be like
01:21:44| are you passive or you are aggressive and they'll be like react to this and then by the time they finish reading the email I'm like I'm like at their desk like were you sure and that'll be like
01:21:59| so weird I've never worked with you I feel like I would hate you not hate you that's a bad term I wouldn't really hate you we get along fine but I feel like we don't work
01:22:12| the same that's true most people don't let work like I work and I understand that when I work stop yeah but there's a point where this gets into so much detail we need to talk about way I need
01:22:28| to have an episode where I talk about my own job and I didn't get into my new job which I love hey it's awful we didn't talk about salary structure either money no we can
01:22:40| mine's a very Commission based actually not that Commission based what jobs very um car salesman but without the taxes yeah the one guy who is a car Sam stone I'm pretty sure you just ended up in
01:22:57| marble granite I get people to sign contracts to say they're gonna buy X amount of marble granite and make sure they love the granite or the marble or the limestone or whatever countertop
01:23:08| they want to buy and I make sure that the major right and I make sure that they don't need a sink and that they do or don't need plumbing and that they do or don't
01:23:15| need rounded edges on the countertop and they do or don't that and then they sign off we filled the checklist and then they paid the money in the Installer through everything I don't even go near
01:23:26| it yeah so you get base pay plus Commission correct so how would you need a backsplash like everything else like whatever so I was like my dad was work
01:23:38| he worked on Commission like his entire life he got a very little base pay but a lot of commission and then there are people that also get like bonuses based on how much they sell I don't know if
01:23:46| there's a bonus structure for correct they had four bonuses they give out every month it's for most percentage closed because you start up a not a firm you start a invoice with an employee and
01:24:00| then not everyone closes because granite marble it ain't cheap like you buy countertop you spend like six thousand bucks like it's like ooh that's a lot money right so some people come in and
01:24:11| get frayed long clothes some people get afraid and then buy with a competitor some people do this you know I mean so it's percentage closed is a winner most granite or marble moved is a winner
01:24:21| most money moved is like a winner and then there's one other winner I pray without it is but it's the idea is the top three are always just the best salesman of the month and the bottom one
01:24:34| that close percentage is usually like some chump who's near the bottom hmm because like think of it he's only getting 12 customers this month he's really serious in closed ten of them
01:24:45| that's a high percentage the top guy he might see a hundred guys a month because they always send it to the top salesman but like it's like people walk in people who don't aren't really interested like
01:24:55| they're screwing up his percentage so do you think that's a good scheme I mean it it makes the certain class of people word is yeah right the other thing I noticed is that some people seem to
01:25:07| really be interested in it like one guy was all about the percentages and I gotta upsell this and I got a um I gotta make the bonus trying to game this yeah he was and I I respect to the board if
01:25:22| that's what we want to do like that is his focus I also met someone who's been there for 10 years which is well second oldest guy who's been there he's like I don't care I'm like excuse me
01:25:33| he's like he's like I'm gonna make Commission I'm gonna make base maybe fine I'm not gonna like break my neck for three extra sales he's like if people wanna buy mama granite to buy it
01:25:44| I'm like move I'm like oh my gratitude actually yeah someone would be like I don't like this guy and the managers don't seem pushy like they're not like get your numbers up to anyone like
01:25:57| they're just literally doing their own thing so are they watching you the whole time no and they're trying to do their own thing any time you talk to them it's bothering are you on an open floor where
01:26:06| everyone can see you yeah but you take people wherever you want like I can go back into the marble and granite yard and give them the business I can take him to the bathroom you can go anywhere
01:26:19| in the store like there's no if you're on your phone to people see it and do they think negatively of you yes and no they promote you to download all this stuff on their phone on your phone like
01:26:32| this weird it tells the priceless thing and all that stuff so everyone's always on the phone and they're like flipping through it and I'm like I'm like is he just texting someone I think the
01:26:42| funniest is the one guy who's been there a long time like I was like shadowing him like they got me like kind of following people I was like what's he doing it some little sitting in front of
01:26:50| them like we're lookin for a countertop and he was looking at his phone and I'm behind him he was like just texting someone I was like so in my line of work I started an inner office with three
01:27:02| people moved to an office with two people and like these are like offices with walls and then I moved to a new building that was open floor plan but you had cubicles
01:27:11| that had walls that were maybe like five feet high so it's wildly open you could hear all the conversations and now I move to an office that has three to four people in it and I it's cubicles but
01:27:23| there are higher walls so of those environments I probably liked the office ones more because they're quieter and I get more saluted though it's it's not I don't know I feel like the one with
01:27:37| the five-foot walls you can make friends with people more often but the types of people that are in my business are not people that I like to make friends with sorry - yeah I don't match up well with
01:27:50| other people and I don't make friends that readily I make I'm polite and nice to them cordial and I can talk to them it's just I don't share my intimate thoughts with them because I don't trust
01:28:02| them what are you gonna do with your information tono's I don't trust people so that's my question do you think they're gonna like use it to get better at business than you is it a business
01:28:13| thing or personal thing oh this is gonna get another anecdote story what's the question they think it's gonna come after me business-wise or personal wise I think
01:28:25| it's business-wise ideal like it would come up and someone would know something and then I'd have to like tell a story about why I do a podcast or why and why I said this one time I get it mm-hmm
01:28:37| but business though yeah so he's an you're nice or not nice or open or not openness for business I heard your business yeah I heard a story about a week ago from one of my managers who is
01:28:51| responsible for giving promotions yeah yeah they're responsible for giving promotions and she told me a story about one thing I did one time when it was in overtime and I had to pick up my kids
01:29:02| and I left apparently in front of a NASA customers but it didn't happen I'm gonna say this in front of a customer it didn't happen but like it's a roundabout way of her
01:29:14| telling me that the managers know that something bad happened and I never got to answer it so like all these clandestine things happen behind your back and it's a bad situation so like I
01:29:25| already moved away from that bad situation because I realized it like two years ago that I needed to do that so like the people that are also in that office like they didn't have my back so
01:29:36| there are certain people that I was just like I don't trust I need to keep you away from me I can't even have a conversation with people in an open office setting because they'll know
01:29:44| through a proxy that I said this that will make its way back to me via three other managers and I just don't want to deal with it like the possibilities are there so I don't do it
01:29:56| so that's another thing that business settings are terrible because you just can't let yourself be open you can't talk freely what I'm getting from all this can I just leave if we
01:30:11| break it down is it no no is that people are the downfall of everything it's never the business itself we're never talking about the way it's derived it's it's if anything's gonna happen bad
01:30:27| it's because people take it the wrong way our people ruin it or people do this or that or people try and usurp your power or people don't listen to you or people manipulate or think what you say
01:30:37| and manipulate sure mm-hmm I mean if that's the way it is that's the way it is I mean last us stat I read was it's somewhere between 59 and 63 because I have two numbers percent 29.7
01:30:54| and 60s 3.2 percent of the u.s. population is employed right uh-huh that's like half seven out of ten I'm around 33 success rate will take 2/3 almost people are employed working in
01:31:11| office work a job have co-workers have people they trust or don't trust share with or don't share with go to the gym before they see them or don't go to the gym before them that's that's most of us
01:31:25| right I mean that's taking into account that babies don't go to work I believe but then people who are retired or done work and people were tool people who were unemployed
01:31:34| so what was your main point on that one I forget but 85% of people from 25 to 54 are employed so they're they're in the prime age range so what you're saying sure but I mean it's like obviously
01:31:49| someone's sixth I actually read that on teenagers or working less right now you know what that is though right so there's like an 85 we ate many other involved them way too many after-school
01:31:59| programs was getting it into college mmm right which will pay off later on you know you wouldn't think I actually hope the college bubble burst I said that on
01:32:09| there I hope so - you know I agree with you this is stupid I just signed up for a ten-year repayment on my loans from 33 they'll get there with near 43
01:32:20| yep I been paying five hundred and forty dollars a month too much right I've been paying that since I graduated and I will pay that well no no no the 10-year pay up was much lower I just wanted a much
01:32:34| lower payment anyway I signed up for a 10-year payment won't say if it holds and I'll be paid off for the 43 oh shut up all your vitality will be gone it already is just
01:32:48| talking about it climatic actually know what's crazy if everyone um there's talk that people might just stop paying their student loans to be funny they should everyone it if they did
01:33:01| shout out I'd do it - sure so everyone unpay iners i will promote not paying off your student loans they can try and mess up your credit but if everyone does that at once they're not going to screw
01:33:13| an entire generations credit right complex yeah I think it makes sense Sallie Mae we're coming for you mmm navient Nelnet a lot of these companies I said this how freaking crazy
01:33:29| would it be hear me out this is a fantasy I had one time everyone works at selling man gets cancer everyone oh no no no I'm not wishing that on but hold on everyone the
01:33:42| receptionist's president everyone and then they were like wow this is crazy weird coincidence we're gonna hire like all the new people they heard got cancer would you sign up to work for them would
01:34:00| you if they were offering a million dollars a year would you so you're hoping that no one ends up working at Sallie Mae and then the organization organization dies at what point does the
01:34:11| organization go we just can't know whom will work for us like is that a real thing is that possible and always someone someone would do it yeah so now they're paying three million dollars for
01:34:24| someone to come answer the phones at Sallie Mae mm-hmm would they do that so with a 540 a month what did you say well you're right I'm paying 548 or whatever all you suckers out there still
01:34:38| pay you know people were gonna help us pay hmm do I cover up on recap recap own personality everything everything on personality and Sally Nick yeah we had the humor steamer isms and therefore
01:34:55| different temperaments with the bile the phlegm the sanguinary choleric the way melancholic things atlantic no I was wrong it's not science it was done a long time ago so it's not great yeah we
01:35:08| got the sensation in same sensation intuition thinking feeling extroverts introverts or extroverts introverts calling that one Carl Carl Jung Carl Jung yep and then yeah Myers Briggs they
01:35:24| had the extraversion introversion sensing intuition thinking feeling judging perceiving absolutely covered 16 different personality types I'm an architect type thank is not he's
01:35:38| campaign or oak so I'm gonna campaign for you I should be a politician the smear campaign would just be this show a parent and we got into the trade literally the traits are more scientific
01:35:51| yet openness to experience conscientiousness extraversion agreeableness and neuroticism which people to more hmm in the word of the podcast surgeon see positive effect
01:36:09| and management and work and all those people that are different personality types and different types of workers different types of frantic corporate shills we didn't even say shoulder die
01:36:22| groove that then we ended up with Sallie Mae anyone who works here is probably gonna get cancer probably not I hope not I mean I hope I love those people I love them they just sell your loan to
01:36:39| somebody else having a good actually hmm how did you know which one it was I don't you guys don't know that I could be known that you could be poking out your butthole here mm-hmm
01:36:53| hmm anyway a lot of people got student debts because they weren't working the workplace and work with all these wonderful people I mean ultimately what is the workplace it's a high school
01:37:05| continuation hmm I looked up immediately after I was done looking up all they are co-worker types as a comedian the Joker this mass murderer my next search was high school personality types do you
01:37:21| know what I found same dust problems the same goddamn thing so really it's anytime you're surrounded by more than 30 peers more than 50
01:37:31| people you run into categories you want to put me when they say high school never ends and it kind of doesn't right there's the comedian at work there's a community in high school there's the hot
01:37:46| mess at work there's the hot mess in high school I mean there's literally any of these lists could apply to any of them now in high school the quiet one the moody one the dream crusher the
01:37:57| talker the honest Joker the all the high school scapegoat and say the office gape of the none of my business won the cooler that's a cool one everyone wants to hang out with the big surprise that
01:38:09| someone who loved and now you hate the slacker the eater the hard worker the motivator the responsible one and the teacher's pet was that a high school list up now if the list I went to
01:38:20| earlier for coworkers same damn list yeah that's awell just high school we're all just highschool people older that's all that's all its first older now a little more antipathy
01:38:31| for me hmm Yodas is on that give him the onus the onus I don't take that uh lastly I did want to say cuz no one thinks of this I know I said the high school thing continued is our co-workers
01:38:49| huh this is the last high school setting you may have in your life for years let me think about it yeah people hold onto it as you're in it
01:39:04| you hate it you hate me when you wonder when you retire you look back the same way I look back on high school and you say I remember the jokester ah I remember Kenny one day he came in he had
01:39:16| a whole bunch of doughnuts he slipped they almost fell on the floor who went into damn donut that day like there's stuff you'll remember fondly even from this because I don't know that there's a
01:39:30| next high school could be the old person's home but I don't think everyone makes it so really enjoy your high school continued because in a way we're a little bit the jock we're a little bit
01:39:44| nerd we're a little bit the popular girl we're a little bit the outcast and we're gonna raise our fists at the end of the episode and that song at the end of the Breakfast Club don't play I wish it
01:39:58| might if you edit the episode it might so thanks for joining us thanks for talking about all the different worker personality types and whether we're a jerk at home or a jerk at the office or
01:40:14| a jerk elf that every time of day mm-hmm yeah I mean everyone's asleep right now I'm like jerk oh you got some time just saying oh thanks for watching folks and listening and listen you're gonna make
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