Transcript of Episode 35 - Brownnosers
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00:00:14| no predators predators so i'm nick i'm dan and today we're trying to talk to you about something that's like predatory it's
00:00:26| like scary it's in her office it's like like there's a virus going around and this is the virus brown nosers teachers pets
00:00:36| losers who are there why are they a loser well like because i got boys now at work like my brothers or bros yeah yeah and the one person we never
00:00:50| agree with and anytime he shoots us an email or attaches to some email or hits up the manager or enough in an email and it's like whoa dude
00:00:59| you didn't have to copy the manager and cc this guy and then be like well your rep should get back to you right away it's like nah man there's a person at
00:01:11| work that's like a narc they're they're so pro company they're a mole that it's fake yeah well it's fake it's not like they really care like in
00:01:24| my company when you want to get rid of an account because it's garbage you send it to csr customer service you can do this with any account if
00:01:34| you're a certain level i'm customer service because i'm garbage we literally take on the garbage so you will cc us cc manager cc who the hell knows and they
00:01:49| will be like hey cynthia we're looking into your request which was originally given to me but i thought it was garbage so i'm sending it to garbage and they're
00:02:00| going to look into it for you every time sorry my voice totally crying but it's just it's just funny because like they're
00:02:10| like thank you for your request it was trash i'm sending it to the trash and copying management to show i'm sending it trash and saying we will have people look into
00:02:21| this for you because we value you and it's like yo dude the reason you send it to here is it's trash
00:02:29| the reason i'm not gonna respond to it is because it's trash and you're gonna copy management and be like hey so wait do you ever respond like those
00:02:38| i was like oh no hundred percent 100 of the time i just ignore it and then if they email me again i have to be like oh i'm sorry i missed this i'll look into it like you know what i mean they're
00:02:47| terrible the one thing is no i'm a great employee the funniest thing is i just had coffee the other day and i went to the front of the room
00:02:56| and i passed by my boy tommy's office who's the biggest brown dozer in my office and i go to the front and pour myself a little coffee and he
00:03:04| comes into the room because he saw me and he goes hey nick uh did you see that uh email i sent and i go like this uh tommy a lot of emails not really sure he
00:03:17| goes he had a customer uh i think they were looking for like that and i'm like this i didn't i don't know it's it's early
00:03:27| tommy i'm trying to get some coffee he goes well i'm just saying there's a lot of potential there for this uh employee i uh kicked it your way because
00:03:35| i thought maybe you could uh help him out with a quote and i told cynthia that you would get back to her probably in a couple hours it's it's
00:03:44| been an hour did you get back to her it's me in my head tommy i'm not gonna answer at all tommy i'm gonna ignore her until she disappears
00:03:53| whatever you sent to me i have no goddamn idea dude it's like i'm already gone yeah i saw her email yeah i'm gonna ignore it but what i say
00:04:02| out loud is like oh yeah um i got it don't worry about it we're good and this is the interaction this is the interaction i have to do on like a
00:04:12| day-to-day basis and i'm like dude hey you don't care about the customer you just care about your your look and b i'm not going to take care of them
00:04:23| the same way you didn't take care of them and didn't want to like don't pretend like they're a super cool customer and you wanted to help him out
00:04:32| he says things like i talked to him on the phone uh he's a pretty cool guy just get him this quote uh we'll see what we can do for him uh-huh
00:04:42| i'm like this no dude you didn't do it you know i'm not gonna do it we're good just drop the act you got people in your line of work that
00:04:51| do this yeah so let's dissect this tommy guy real quick so hey do you think he has anybody that he genuinely talks to
00:04:59| do you think he's like probably he probably has 95 he does have some kind of some customers who he talks to and he's cool with i've heard him talk all the time like
00:05:09| some of it's [ __ ] some of it's cool like okay the customer he sent me is [ __ ] he didn't want to deal with them guess what's gonna happen i'm not gonna want
00:05:19| to deal with them why copy management and say hey cynthia we're gonna get back to you on this you didn't i'm not gonna dude i'm gonna ignore every email
00:05:29| i'm gonna send it to the wrong email i'm gonna [ __ ] it up i'm gonna send you a quote for the wrong stuff like i don't care we're done like people like
00:05:40| me because yeah he purposely is he's gonna decide he's making it look like he's like like a knight in shining armor
00:05:51| when really he's sending it to someone else a lower grade like and that's what bugs me and there are people like this at every job where they act like they're
00:06:00| helping you by giving you [ __ ] to do like he's trying to play it off in other people's eyes to make him a brown-noser by saying hey you're helping nick out here it's like
00:06:11| you were not you no way but he tries to spin it but exactly he did this to one of my other co-workers who um they had like a 15 line quote anytime
00:06:25| it's over like three items like it's a headache it's it's like a 15 line quote it's like ah i'm not gonna sir i'm gonna pass on your quote that's a lot of work
00:06:34| ain't gonna work for me have a nice day they give a 15 line quote to my boy jake and jake was literally he called out sick the second half of the day he just was
00:06:45| sick went home so tommy who wasn't even his rep goes yo yo i sent this customer to jake he didn't get back to him what's going on here
00:06:57| and he he followed up and he was like i sent jake the the customer i sent him the email and this customer was looking for a quota material and he just didn't get back to him and
00:07:08| he copied on me and i'm like dude shut up like there's no way to explain that to people there's certain people you just want to
00:07:18| go do you think tommy significantly more and cares because he's getting paid or do you think it's more so like
00:07:27| you get he makes a little more than a little very little but he's waiting more he's making more sure equal footing he probably thinks that it's some other
00:07:37| way like this is this method for getting in a better position climbing up yeah i agree i think that's but it's like you don't have to
00:07:49| step on other people's heads to do that like it's it's one thing if you get in trouble for something your co-worker did and it comes back on you like you have every right to be like
00:08:04| wow my co-worker dropped the ball this is his name i'm really sorry he did it it's another thing where you're newsy about your co-worker and
00:08:13| being like he's not doing his job dude oh did you see that he's not doing his job i wish there was a room of those people
00:08:25| all doing it to each other just pointing at each other over a wall picking up over the wall i get it you can brown those you want to look good for your boss but there's
00:08:39| a thing where you don't need to pry into other people's business and point out what they're not doing like that's like a tattletale is that the word for it
00:08:49| yeah that's the word for it do you run into this so i've run into the people like in my line of work it's more that people are like so on it
00:08:58| that they're like i'm more on it than you and it's like who for me whoa for me you can take that and enjoy it and you could be
00:09:08| like better than me because honestly you're buying into a system that the company has put forth and the system the company before puts forth has you
00:09:18| already by the balls like you whatever you're going to gain from the system they put forth you're like maybe if you're number one you come out ahead of everyone else
00:09:26| but i was in government contracting for a long time and there's no [ __ ] way you're going to come out ahead in government contracting because they
00:09:35| don't pay anybody this is right yeah it's not merit-based it's just time-based so in my perspective it's like by me saying
00:09:45| you know not like i like my job but at a certain point you say you know [ __ ] all this because you're not going to give me anything i'm going to go somewhere else and make
00:09:53| my own ladder i'm going to jump on top of some other ladder and be like hey i'm the king of the hill now and then you know screw all those people that are like
00:10:01| piddling and battling like on the run above them or below them you just get jump jump across the way donkey kong it it's a cutthroat thing so literally it's you can only affect
00:10:12| people directly above you or directly about below you so if you're gonna [ __ ] people below you [ __ ] people above you like that's very
00:10:21| i don't want to do that for a living ever i don't think i could i'm bad at it yeah and you don't know who's actually going to rise to the top because it's so random who actually does it's still
00:10:31| random yeah so then you threw someone under you under the bus quite literally and and they they got promoted anyway because for whatever reason arbitrary number was
00:10:42| higher than yours now you look like a douchebag because they know what you did like i have to deal with it i can't do that stuff
00:10:50| like i i see i always never tell i don't know it's just not my thing no i'm too much of a rebel to do that i see it in other people yeah i see another people that like at my old
00:11:04| job uh the one that was consultancy is that they believed in the company like they bought it and they were
00:11:14| kind of stuck in the mentality that like i had to be here like i'm supposed to be here and i see that and like when i got there within like two days i was like i don't
00:11:22| think i should be here like it was complete opposite of what you need what you should think of when you start a company i'm not feeling it like
00:11:30| and i i can't wait for the day where i'm just like i don't like i'm just i go i start and i go no not gonna work sorry guys that's balls like that that is where i feel like you
00:11:41| crush those people that are like brown nosers it's like i don't need to do any of this [ __ ] i already won like you're out like i'm out goodbye [ __ ] you [ __ ] you
00:11:52| yeah you're cool that's that's what it is there's also as i had a job as a server i would always through throw under the cooks and things
00:12:10| under the table because that's what you have to do if your meal came out wrong it was oh my god i put the order in correctly it must have been the cook i'll go talk to someone management i'll
00:12:21| see what we can do that's okay because you can go back to the cook and be like i [ __ ] up listen can we make a new meal like yes listen i totally put it in wrong like
00:12:31| you're not actually throwing them under the bus it's like a pretend throw them under the bus it's for the for the feel for the theatrics exactly it's like yes
00:12:42| when you really throw someone under the bus like i i don't do that i can't do that i feel like those type of people are i can't relate to them
00:12:53| like i don't get it there's another element what do you how much do you gain it's so weird like how much can you gain by literally being rude and mean and
00:13:02| throwing someone under the bus and just like trying to destroy their their life their work life to gain what what are you gaining one percent
00:13:13| less than one percent less than one percent one one percent like to know what i mean so the scary thing about this is that like you're at like level one or level
00:13:22| two tattletail but like when people get older they become more manipulative and they figure out that like hey if i tell this person this thing
00:13:29| then it'll just like evolve on its own and then like for instance there were a couple startups i was in and there's always that guy who's like
00:13:37| brings it together and pretends to do a whole bunch of [ __ ] and never does very much of anything he's sure he's talking he's banking on putting in so little
00:13:46| effort but then trying to reward himself in the end saying oh equally oh yeah those people become very very tricky and hard to spot
00:13:55| because they sound better and better as they get older and the more they try to manipulate the more they can manipulate if they're successful they'll keep going and they'll keep
00:14:04| trying to like exact your effort and make it to their effort make it make them money are they collaborators and uh idealists and like whatever the other job titles
00:14:16| they make for them yeah the go-getter the stick intuitive yes and all that you're a b-hole man
00:14:29| jazz up that b-hole yeah so you get taken by those people because they're just like they're the same they're the version of bro there is no boss
00:14:39| they're like they're the brown-noser that is brown-nosing you interesting essentially because they sort of yeah they know you're the boss but they don't let you know that
00:14:48| they're tricking you a little bit that's the plan they're giving you a line so you got to watch yourself because those people can be very tricky and they can really
00:15:00| make you delusional interesting you say that well to sum it up i would say be careful out there there are people out there who will
00:15:13| pump up your ego make you feel like you're really good but you got to be careful about them they might be leading you down a line to push you off a short fear
00:15:21| yes two phasers there's also people who if you're trying to start out and they're like he didn't do a good job he did not do his job he didn't do what i did uh
00:15:33| last wednesday i gave him a a email the other week he did not respond it's all his fault [ __ ] those people be a leader
00:15:43| take responsibility and say i got this don't worry those people suck wang yeah don't worry i'm not gonna quote this but i got it last week tommy freaking relax
00:16:00| i got it i still have not got back to them and i'm proud of it i sent a minimum i was like we're very uh get this i have to send them a new email
00:16:12| i'm your new rep at allied even though you have a new rapid allied five days ago who decided you were garbage and sent it to csr i'm your new new rapid allied and i'm
00:16:24| working on it right now have a great day not gonna get back to you not gonna do it and i'm gonna enjoy it and no one in new sales
00:16:37| and junior exec any of those sales classes is going to be like he didn't get back to his reps he he didn't he didn't even get back together on email icc i saw him
00:16:47| i was watching i see hey tommy oh dude i'm doing it i'm doing the thing dude took a while yeah man first one anyway
00:17:05| be careful those people out there be weary ultimately look out for yourself don't be stupid and don't fall for the fanfare but
00:17:22| hmm it was a lightsaber one song thank you guys [Music] prayers
00:00:26| like scary it's in her office it's like like there's a virus going around and this is the virus brown nosers teachers pets
00:00:36| losers who are there why are they a loser well like because i got boys now at work like my brothers or bros yeah yeah and the one person we never
00:00:50| agree with and anytime he shoots us an email or attaches to some email or hits up the manager or enough in an email and it's like whoa dude
00:00:59| you didn't have to copy the manager and cc this guy and then be like well your rep should get back to you right away it's like nah man there's a person at
00:01:11| work that's like a narc they're they're so pro company they're a mole that it's fake yeah well it's fake it's not like they really care like in
00:01:24| my company when you want to get rid of an account because it's garbage you send it to csr customer service you can do this with any account if
00:01:34| you're a certain level i'm customer service because i'm garbage we literally take on the garbage so you will cc us cc manager cc who the hell knows and they
00:01:49| will be like hey cynthia we're looking into your request which was originally given to me but i thought it was garbage so i'm sending it to garbage and they're
00:02:00| going to look into it for you every time sorry my voice totally crying but it's just it's just funny because like they're
00:02:10| like thank you for your request it was trash i'm sending it to the trash and copying management to show i'm sending it trash and saying we will have people look into
00:02:21| this for you because we value you and it's like yo dude the reason you send it to here is it's trash
00:02:29| the reason i'm not gonna respond to it is because it's trash and you're gonna copy management and be like hey so wait do you ever respond like those
00:02:38| i was like oh no hundred percent 100 of the time i just ignore it and then if they email me again i have to be like oh i'm sorry i missed this i'll look into it like you know what i mean they're
00:02:47| terrible the one thing is no i'm a great employee the funniest thing is i just had coffee the other day and i went to the front of the room
00:02:56| and i passed by my boy tommy's office who's the biggest brown dozer in my office and i go to the front and pour myself a little coffee and he
00:03:04| comes into the room because he saw me and he goes hey nick uh did you see that uh email i sent and i go like this uh tommy a lot of emails not really sure he
00:03:17| goes he had a customer uh i think they were looking for like that and i'm like this i didn't i don't know it's it's early
00:03:27| tommy i'm trying to get some coffee he goes well i'm just saying there's a lot of potential there for this uh employee i uh kicked it your way because
00:03:35| i thought maybe you could uh help him out with a quote and i told cynthia that you would get back to her probably in a couple hours it's it's
00:03:44| been an hour did you get back to her it's me in my head tommy i'm not gonna answer at all tommy i'm gonna ignore her until she disappears
00:03:53| whatever you sent to me i have no goddamn idea dude it's like i'm already gone yeah i saw her email yeah i'm gonna ignore it but what i say
00:04:02| out loud is like oh yeah um i got it don't worry about it we're good and this is the interaction this is the interaction i have to do on like a
00:04:12| day-to-day basis and i'm like dude hey you don't care about the customer you just care about your your look and b i'm not going to take care of them
00:04:23| the same way you didn't take care of them and didn't want to like don't pretend like they're a super cool customer and you wanted to help him out
00:04:32| he says things like i talked to him on the phone uh he's a pretty cool guy just get him this quote uh we'll see what we can do for him uh-huh
00:04:42| i'm like this no dude you didn't do it you know i'm not gonna do it we're good just drop the act you got people in your line of work that
00:04:51| do this yeah so let's dissect this tommy guy real quick so hey do you think he has anybody that he genuinely talks to
00:04:59| do you think he's like probably he probably has 95 he does have some kind of some customers who he talks to and he's cool with i've heard him talk all the time like
00:05:09| some of it's [ __ ] some of it's cool like okay the customer he sent me is [ __ ] he didn't want to deal with them guess what's gonna happen i'm not gonna want
00:05:19| to deal with them why copy management and say hey cynthia we're gonna get back to you on this you didn't i'm not gonna dude i'm gonna ignore every email
00:05:29| i'm gonna send it to the wrong email i'm gonna [ __ ] it up i'm gonna send you a quote for the wrong stuff like i don't care we're done like people like
00:05:40| me because yeah he purposely is he's gonna decide he's making it look like he's like like a knight in shining armor
00:05:51| when really he's sending it to someone else a lower grade like and that's what bugs me and there are people like this at every job where they act like they're
00:06:00| helping you by giving you [ __ ] to do like he's trying to play it off in other people's eyes to make him a brown-noser by saying hey you're helping nick out here it's like
00:06:11| you were not you no way but he tries to spin it but exactly he did this to one of my other co-workers who um they had like a 15 line quote anytime
00:06:25| it's over like three items like it's a headache it's it's like a 15 line quote it's like ah i'm not gonna sir i'm gonna pass on your quote that's a lot of work
00:06:34| ain't gonna work for me have a nice day they give a 15 line quote to my boy jake and jake was literally he called out sick the second half of the day he just was
00:06:45| sick went home so tommy who wasn't even his rep goes yo yo i sent this customer to jake he didn't get back to him what's going on here
00:06:57| and he he followed up and he was like i sent jake the the customer i sent him the email and this customer was looking for a quota material and he just didn't get back to him and
00:07:08| he copied on me and i'm like dude shut up like there's no way to explain that to people there's certain people you just want to
00:07:18| go do you think tommy significantly more and cares because he's getting paid or do you think it's more so like
00:07:27| you get he makes a little more than a little very little but he's waiting more he's making more sure equal footing he probably thinks that it's some other
00:07:37| way like this is this method for getting in a better position climbing up yeah i agree i think that's but it's like you don't have to
00:07:49| step on other people's heads to do that like it's it's one thing if you get in trouble for something your co-worker did and it comes back on you like you have every right to be like
00:08:04| wow my co-worker dropped the ball this is his name i'm really sorry he did it it's another thing where you're newsy about your co-worker and
00:08:13| being like he's not doing his job dude oh did you see that he's not doing his job i wish there was a room of those people
00:08:25| all doing it to each other just pointing at each other over a wall picking up over the wall i get it you can brown those you want to look good for your boss but there's
00:08:39| a thing where you don't need to pry into other people's business and point out what they're not doing like that's like a tattletale is that the word for it
00:08:49| yeah that's the word for it do you run into this so i've run into the people like in my line of work it's more that people are like so on it
00:08:58| that they're like i'm more on it than you and it's like who for me whoa for me you can take that and enjoy it and you could be
00:09:08| like better than me because honestly you're buying into a system that the company has put forth and the system the company before puts forth has you
00:09:18| already by the balls like you whatever you're going to gain from the system they put forth you're like maybe if you're number one you come out ahead of everyone else
00:09:26| but i was in government contracting for a long time and there's no [ __ ] way you're going to come out ahead in government contracting because they
00:09:35| don't pay anybody this is right yeah it's not merit-based it's just time-based so in my perspective it's like by me saying
00:09:45| you know not like i like my job but at a certain point you say you know [ __ ] all this because you're not going to give me anything i'm going to go somewhere else and make
00:09:53| my own ladder i'm going to jump on top of some other ladder and be like hey i'm the king of the hill now and then you know screw all those people that are like
00:10:01| piddling and battling like on the run above them or below them you just get jump jump across the way donkey kong it it's a cutthroat thing so literally it's you can only affect
00:10:12| people directly above you or directly about below you so if you're gonna [ __ ] people below you [ __ ] people above you like that's very
00:10:21| i don't want to do that for a living ever i don't think i could i'm bad at it yeah and you don't know who's actually going to rise to the top because it's so random who actually does it's still
00:10:31| random yeah so then you threw someone under you under the bus quite literally and and they they got promoted anyway because for whatever reason arbitrary number was
00:10:42| higher than yours now you look like a douchebag because they know what you did like i have to deal with it i can't do that stuff
00:10:50| like i i see i always never tell i don't know it's just not my thing no i'm too much of a rebel to do that i see it in other people yeah i see another people that like at my old
00:11:04| job uh the one that was consultancy is that they believed in the company like they bought it and they were
00:11:14| kind of stuck in the mentality that like i had to be here like i'm supposed to be here and i see that and like when i got there within like two days i was like i don't
00:11:22| think i should be here like it was complete opposite of what you need what you should think of when you start a company i'm not feeling it like
00:11:30| and i i can't wait for the day where i'm just like i don't like i'm just i go i start and i go no not gonna work sorry guys that's balls like that that is where i feel like you
00:11:41| crush those people that are like brown nosers it's like i don't need to do any of this [ __ ] i already won like you're out like i'm out goodbye [ __ ] you [ __ ] you
00:11:52| yeah you're cool that's that's what it is there's also as i had a job as a server i would always through throw under the cooks and things
00:12:10| under the table because that's what you have to do if your meal came out wrong it was oh my god i put the order in correctly it must have been the cook i'll go talk to someone management i'll
00:12:21| see what we can do that's okay because you can go back to the cook and be like i [ __ ] up listen can we make a new meal like yes listen i totally put it in wrong like
00:12:31| you're not actually throwing them under the bus it's like a pretend throw them under the bus it's for the for the feel for the theatrics exactly it's like yes
00:12:42| when you really throw someone under the bus like i i don't do that i can't do that i feel like those type of people are i can't relate to them
00:12:53| like i don't get it there's another element what do you how much do you gain it's so weird like how much can you gain by literally being rude and mean and
00:13:02| throwing someone under the bus and just like trying to destroy their their life their work life to gain what what are you gaining one percent
00:13:13| less than one percent less than one percent one one percent like to know what i mean so the scary thing about this is that like you're at like level one or level
00:13:22| two tattletail but like when people get older they become more manipulative and they figure out that like hey if i tell this person this thing
00:13:29| then it'll just like evolve on its own and then like for instance there were a couple startups i was in and there's always that guy who's like
00:13:37| brings it together and pretends to do a whole bunch of [ __ ] and never does very much of anything he's sure he's talking he's banking on putting in so little
00:13:46| effort but then trying to reward himself in the end saying oh equally oh yeah those people become very very tricky and hard to spot
00:13:55| because they sound better and better as they get older and the more they try to manipulate the more they can manipulate if they're successful they'll keep going and they'll keep
00:14:04| trying to like exact your effort and make it to their effort make it make them money are they collaborators and uh idealists and like whatever the other job titles
00:14:16| they make for them yeah the go-getter the stick intuitive yes and all that you're a b-hole man
00:14:29| jazz up that b-hole yeah so you get taken by those people because they're just like they're the same they're the version of bro there is no boss
00:14:39| they're like they're the brown-noser that is brown-nosing you interesting essentially because they sort of yeah they know you're the boss but they don't let you know that
00:14:48| they're tricking you a little bit that's the plan they're giving you a line so you got to watch yourself because those people can be very tricky and they can really
00:15:00| make you delusional interesting you say that well to sum it up i would say be careful out there there are people out there who will
00:15:13| pump up your ego make you feel like you're really good but you got to be careful about them they might be leading you down a line to push you off a short fear
00:15:21| yes two phasers there's also people who if you're trying to start out and they're like he didn't do a good job he did not do his job he didn't do what i did uh
00:15:33| last wednesday i gave him a a email the other week he did not respond it's all his fault [ __ ] those people be a leader
00:15:43| take responsibility and say i got this don't worry those people suck wang yeah don't worry i'm not gonna quote this but i got it last week tommy freaking relax
00:16:00| i got it i still have not got back to them and i'm proud of it i sent a minimum i was like we're very uh get this i have to send them a new email
00:16:12| i'm your new rep at allied even though you have a new rapid allied five days ago who decided you were garbage and sent it to csr i'm your new new rapid allied and i'm
00:16:24| working on it right now have a great day not gonna get back to you not gonna do it and i'm gonna enjoy it and no one in new sales
00:16:37| and junior exec any of those sales classes is going to be like he didn't get back to his reps he he didn't he didn't even get back together on email icc i saw him
00:16:47| i was watching i see hey tommy oh dude i'm doing it i'm doing the thing dude took a while yeah man first one anyway
00:17:05| be careful those people out there be weary ultimately look out for yourself don't be stupid and don't fall for the fanfare but
00:17:22| hmm it was a lightsaber one song thank you guys [Music] prayers
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