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00:00:03| when NASA launches a rocket into space there are a lot of moving parts a lot of pieces how do you know which Rhys which piece is most risky how do you know what's gonna fail how do you prevent it
00:00:15| from failing whatever you do there's always risk sometimes you have to take the chance launch your rocket into space so I'm Dan and I'm Nick bows for old friends
00:00:35| dissecting one topic at a time people technology media you've got it all covered each discussion here is a deep dive in or unique perspective taboo forbidden subjects they're all on the
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00:01:02| have a good time open up your earholes [Music] [Music] one damn and I'm Nick folks thanks for joining us on another episode of
00:01:40| panderers welcome it's funny we don't pander to Punk I feel like opinion or money like I'm gonna change her and all the changer we're not gonna change our format I don't care how much the big
00:01:56| companies are throwing at us we're gonna keep doing it the way we want to do it sounds written to agree with that she's raised good money take the money take the money is run uh so good there's a
00:02:09| risk and taking the money in running about oh yeah cuz they could catch you do you think big horse renounce him like the guys that beat you up big no serious Reds like I think those people are hired
00:02:25| by people in the company but it's under the books we never sanctioned that mine evil my my beautiful knees off the table your knees had been removed I mean could Jeff Bezos beat up anyone what if there
00:02:44| was someone who was claiming Jeff Bezos could not beat him up and there was like this weird UPS well with like he has enough money man he could do it and he was like no you can't do it they'll
00:02:53| trace the money back to him do you think he could pay a guy to pay a guy to wire a guy to do some searching on like Reddit and then do some searching on some like black market stuff to pay a
00:03:04| guy to beat that guy up or do you think if it was high opinion enough and like in the spotlight enough that somehow someone would crack the code and figure it out and we know Jeff Bezos did it did
00:03:15| you ever see the movie twins with Danny DeVito and Arnold Schwarzenegger I'm not a hundred percent I feel like I've just seen parts of it in my life you've seen the part in the end where he gets hit
00:03:24| with the chain and the changes comes falling falling falling falling and just covers him entirely no I haven't recalled that's hilarious hello hello I was waiting to hear a part
00:03:34| but I heard from twins I'm like yeah okay no I didn't recall that know if Jeff Beezus has a superpower it's just like hitting people with money and like delusion them
00:03:43| and money until they're completely killed cover oh my god can you imagine he donated so much money it killed them he's so charitable everyone good oh my God all those poor children he's just
00:03:55| like a wave of money screaming and they're just like he's so kind just wave that money likes is everything and it's like a guy was like broken legs because he hit the mistakes of money just so
00:04:11| many quarters landing on him just killing risk it would be really great right now to start with like a definition of risk a definition would be I'll really because there's like
00:04:30| everything that do is a reason so the reason I picked risk is that I had this giant software program ready to go and it's all written by me and if you think about it if I'm sleepy or I don't double
00:04:44| check things and I definitely don't test things the way they're supposed to be tested any one line of code and like the thousands of lines of code could cause a problem that just destroys the whole
00:04:56| thing makes it so it isn't whirlwind your life's work be pretty sweet yeah yeah you don't know at least it's only money but it's just money folks I've written software for like explosive
00:05:08| stuff too and it makes it like really frightening to be like the only like you're culpable like it's almost like because they could always trace that code back it's written in and entered by
00:05:20| one individual I mean you have some fallback your company okayed it someone okay that someone checked it and said yeah we're good to go but ultimately you wrote it mmm-hmm there's nothing that
00:05:32| many things in life that you can you put your stamp on that relies someone relies their life relies on your code or your whatever you did or whatever you're doing like here the definition for
00:05:47| it's gonna be very businesslike it kind of is risk is the potential for uncontrolled loss of something of value the value such as physical health social status emotional well-being or financial
00:06:00| wealth they can be gained or lost when taking risk resulting from a given action or inaction foreseen or unforeseen planned or not plant risk can also be defined as the intentional
00:06:11| interaction with uncertainty dun dun dun uncertainty as a potential unpredictable uncontrolled welcome it's an aspect of action taken in spite of uncertainty Oh would you like to live with that risk
00:06:26| won't it be enjoyable I don't think you can to be honest with you you imagine if you can't take risks you have to take risks like even if you're like I'm controlled that you didn't worry about
00:06:36| anything learning to walk is a risk someone learning to walk in a incubator with like wood or shoes and like in a a tough that's only 7 inches of water yes I said water
00:06:49| it's hard as a higher risk of like drowning and actually like hurting yourself falling that's why I said 7 inches mm-hmm can you drown in seven inches of
00:06:57| water I think you can drown someone else since I'm an inch of water right I don't think you could drown but you could drown someone do you think your body will flip you over is this the
00:07:07| discussion three inches I think is where you would - if you roll on your side and it like can you drown with only half your mouth being covered I think you can probably kent's all right one inch of
00:07:22| water yeah the podcast yep okay what did you do I was reminded that she paid the Pico bill and that the the computer that would be on anyway is under that rule and that I should be done with it
00:07:47| oh wow that's did you tell her how much it actually costs for a kilowatt of power no I did not and I would not like to sit down and explain it to her it seems like a lot of work you get them
00:07:59| all Wi-Fi hours first Ward's also a risk assessment and it's not worth of this you do not engage as we say here the the reward versus the what's the opposite of
00:08:10| reward downfall hmm its kind of risk reward but we're talking about what yeah the reward versus the loss is not worth the risk if I were to say so consequences so I had a job where I was
00:08:26| calculating risk for a rocket and those going to be launched in space so they have these matrices that are like likelihood versus consequences mm-hmm the whole thing is like if you
00:08:39| multiplied them together then it could you like that like a value and like certain values make it so that you care about them more and then you have to like do different layers of protection
00:08:48| and make sure that they don't happen may be mitigating yeah god damn I love some mitigating some risk so you're gonna leave the computer on with so you're not mitigating risks that way I am NOT I'm a
00:09:03| dangerous individual I make one hour this podcast is about an hour so mm-hmm probably your computer's maybe less than a thousand Watts so maybe it's 10 cents it is it's 8:50 with the lightbulb above
00:09:17| you is probably oh good point we're adding in other factors you're right you're correct calculating at all well that is 10 cents you should let's get a dime every time you go podcast and
00:09:30| just slam it down in front of her have you like that's that is a risk that is also unwarranted you don't have to do in front of her you guys buy this I was loading random places dimes everywhere I
00:09:45| can put them like I did in her underwear so every time she takes it off she's like wow where is this coming from where did I get this time you tell me lady of the night hmm we're
00:10:01| so yeah we were distracted by someone's input we were um what's interesting is that my job now I actually have I didn't really just a mini risk assessment anytime I put together an order I have
00:10:14| to place my initials the day and then literally the word risk : and then the level of risk for the fridge or yeah most people were like you can't use a - I'm like why not what's the difference
00:10:28| then they're like just it's my risk its : and then you put so you have to put low medium or high and the risk is I think of it's a value-added service with something that's non-returnable and that
00:10:40| we're doing something to the wire or cable like twisting it cutting it - stripping it dyeing it all these things there's a small rest detail but because it's what we if we cut it to you know
00:10:54| the ends and then twist it and send it to a customer if they say oh this was wrong it's coming back to us what do we do with that exactly so it's a medium risk
00:11:05| yeah now there are other risk is like if we don't have the material in-house we're ordering it from a manufacturer what do they send us the wrong stuff what if
00:11:13| they ran out what if they sold it before you got it that's a medium risk high risk oh my god don't get me started on high risk me personally no oh okay high risk under national customer it's going
00:11:27| overseas someone we can't really have control of what they do with it it's moving parts it's all these different things that we translate properly oh maybe they met millimeters oops
00:11:37| and then I don't know it's like whoa this job could go fuchal sideways for a lot of money and it's like hmm good luck that's a high-risk job but they let me do whatever when I want some I just have
00:11:48| to write on there interesting I guess do you write anyway then feel know I always write low or medium like I'm not like selling weird cut strip custom cable jobs to Taiwan or anything like that for
00:12:02| like a hundred thousand feet yet dunt that um what use him like military great and has a risk to it we're gonna build muscle so the best you sort of so that's the other thing I've come into
00:12:16| with this business I've never if I sell toilet paper and paper towels like it's just toilet paper or paper towels like you get it you use it if it's if it's a screwed up box ok return it I'll give
00:12:26| you a new one because that bad happens in toilet paper and paper towels sometimes are fred in sometimes murder scene cuts with your paper towels it's like this one type of paper towels up at
00:12:34| every murder scene it's like we have to prevent the sale of this or else people will die would ride it to the forefront of public opinion free the paper town and then you have paper towels for all
00:12:52| so hold on so this is the other thing about risk at my job that I'd never come across and sort of ties into what you're talking about when I sell wire wire has to carry a
00:13:03| signal it has to carry an electric signal that turn something on turn something off sounds pretty stupid but if it's like a turbine or a blade or something that has to work or plenum
00:13:15| cable that's cable that goes above a high price then like the ceilings that like ties lights and stuff together that has to be non-viable has to be plenum has to be rated so that it won't burst
00:13:26| into flame so that it won't fail so that it won't like shipboard cable has to be stuff that's super reliable and zero halogens low low smoke all these things start adding up and it's like it's the
00:13:37| same cable that I can sell Joe Schmo at the shop but for an extra ten times as much money you can buy one that's rated and will not fail and like what means it will not fail it's risk free you can
00:13:49| need a new job why this is literally the companies you're talking about this is the [ __ ] they buy for big money literally NASA will only buy [ __ ] it's like milspec radiant i think lately
00:14:03| they've been moving to other [ __ ] well that's home talks about like i dunno about that [ __ ] and they only buy [ __ ] that will not fail and it's like Teflon is it rated to this voltage and
00:14:13| is it rated to this and i'm like who cares and they're like we're sending it into space and i'm like probably we fine so this like this is the most fun part of my job really
00:14:23| towards the end of my NASA career is that they they wouldn't analyze like all sorts of risk like all different types like you'd get a variety one of the best ones was like if a rocket hits a bird on
00:14:35| the way up like bird strike like how do you exactly how do you quantify that risk and then like they had people minimal zero but tell me they help make go ahead people that we studied this
00:14:48| that were experts in it so they would like tap on this expert say like well what's what's the risk here so like they went in like analyze like time of day like where the birds like where do they
00:14:59| sit like what's their path windshield what part were they gonna hit how big are they how high do they fly like what season do they fly in like if we can go like before storm or after storm is it
00:15:09| better like all of these like factors or just like multiplied together and be like you don't want to do this because you're gonna get hit with a bird at like this outfit where it's gonna be very bad
00:15:19| and it was crazy there's one guy that spent years studying birds flying in this one spot it's like that was his job that's like your job he's like yeah that's wild to
00:15:35| me innit I don't care think I care and I would think Nasser somebody wouldn't care but I guess if you're spending 1 billion dollars to build something to launch and it's a one time launch how do
00:15:47| you guarantee that it's going to work it's worth spending the extra money on parts and research that guarantees that it will not have a snafu as it were but can you imagine if a billion dollar
00:16:01| rocket did hit a bunch of birds and got just [ __ ] sideways and the whole project was ruined it's almost like ah they hit Birds sounds like I ruined it him dance birds but it's like it's so
00:16:13| like we go through all these things to find like easy preventive measures like if you could play a siren if you have technology that screwed birds away and you can fire something in the air that
00:16:23| would prevent them from going in that path beforehand like all of that is like very reasonable compared to a billion dollars it is so it's a risk/reward type scale
00:16:34| that you're talking about which in our day-to-day lives really doesn't seem to be important that is actually hilarious to talk about but I guess it makes sense this is the entire job of like insurance
00:16:45| and life insurance and like that kind of a thing they do all these studies that are literally it's a risk reward for a company that's trying to make money when you paying it so that if someone dies or
00:16:58| is hurt they don't have to pay you as much as they're making from charging you this is an actuary actually injured I'm sorry correct yeah I love that that's kind of
00:17:08| the weirdest job in the world yeah and it's I guess it's kind of interesting but I think it'd be awesome be kind of soul sucking at the same time because you wouldn't actually be living
00:17:18| you need to be calculating much and stuff it's like calculating life which you can't do but you can sort of you get damn well close to correlating a pretty good number then it correlates the
00:17:30| numbers baby get some percentages in there Oh flambe some risk mmm so there's other types of risk that like sleeping with one at the office like why don't more people do that that's a risk yes I
00:17:46| see I I don't know where people find the time not the risk it's the time you know it's their work and can't give him the business of business I recently spoke with a co-worker about this it's called
00:18:01| [ __ ] where you eat in it's not always a great decision yeah cuz how what are the odds that works out and they're the the new one we know that's weird - it's probably that's that's best
00:18:15| case scenario which is weird because it probably isn't really the best case scenario it's best casing room for your risk like chances are she's not and you're not going to leave and become
00:18:27| happily married because then you're you're also working that's weird - like that none of it there's no good path that's a fun experience is it I guess so yeah
00:18:37| physically and emotionally a little bit of a fling yeah some fun you can do it close to the office that's that's we're in power to you problem is it will always end in either jaded ISM that's a
00:18:50| that's a real word maybe revenge someone finding out it going awry that word oh right awry rut classic that's a zero-day didn't last me I guess of people at
00:19:06| school but I I mean I'm trying to think if I slept with them it went and I still had classes with them pass with it maybe one girl that was in my major but but do you it's not like she can that it at
00:19:23| that point your life they can't what are they gonna to my kitchen Yeley suspended from school from something well they can't that's that's school doesn't have those kind of rules yeah so but like
00:19:35| worst-case scenario if it does go awry like what do they do to you like a they like it's not like you're working on an individual project and both of you were together I picked you two at random and
00:19:46| you're gonna do this project for the semester it's for your entire grade and you have to work together it's like that doesn't happen you barely have to rely on each other at most you just have to
00:19:54| be in each other's presence for a little bit quietly and maybe you're secretly hating them or they're hating you or they're remembering or they're they wanted it to keep going or you didn't or
00:20:04| they're disgusted by you or they remember something in they're pissed at you do you feel awkward in these situations have you ever feel awkward once the last time you felt awkward I
00:20:15| feel awkward sometimes I just can't think I can't think of the last time I felt awkward oh I know where where I walked uh there's a guy that works in HR and he's like as he's the same age as
00:20:25| all the sales reps so today I know his name he doesn't know mine I like yo Brad and he was like hey what's up and he seems like a normal cool chill dude and he was walking the same direction I did
00:20:35| and me and Daffy or leaving and I was like yo I was walking with dad so he started walking with us and dad I swear to god he's carrying a chick-fil-a styrofoam cup filled with soda from
00:20:46| earlier in the day as he's walking on his way out of work it burst and I was like dude because I thought he dropped it and he's like dude look and he turned to show me
00:20:57| the whole bottom just dropped out a circular cut all at once the acid must have eaten away at it all day or something it was a perfect circle and everyone's staring and we had to get
00:21:07| napkins and stuff and we're dabbing it with napkins and he went back to the bathroom to go get some paper towels and me Brad and are just standing there and he was getting ready to leave and he's
00:21:17| not really our friend and he was like uh and I was like I was like it's it's cool dude and he's like standing there I was like you can leave we're adults we can clean it up I was because like he was
00:21:26| standing around like waiting didn't leave yeah but I didn't say it mean I was just like he was on his way out to go home no man your seat was in life and he was like yeah yeah cuz like I felt
00:21:36| like it was just hanging around too long and I was like okay and then he rolled it and I waited around for dad I was like yo dad you need me help clean up you go to he's like yeah I'm good I'm
00:21:45| like like I pointed to her Brad was and I shook my head like it was just weird that he did that and I guess I wasn't awkward but like you can still feel awkward with people like it's like so
00:21:57| there was a moment that I think this was in college and it broke my leg and I was crushing upstairs and one of my lab mates from like a previous class was behind me and crunching up I fell down
00:22:11| and like I really like fell down the steps I wasn't hurt but I like some of the bottom it's one of those things that my classmate didn't know how to like interact with tell men you yeah I think
00:22:23| he'll heal physically did he know if they should touch you yes that's a weird thing who you touching who you don't touch plus I think I like he didn't like me because I didn't help on that project
00:22:32| very well so he was like oh it just kind of like stood there like awkward landing turn out bend over like he's gonna help you he's like you got this you okay do you need help and you're like already
00:22:46| picking yourself up so clearly you're okay and it's like um I'm good dude yeah it's strange when things happen that you've never seen before because you don't know how you're gonna react or the
00:22:57| expectations of yourself are not anything that you know nothing knows we couldn't prepare yourself for them it's just you're thrust into it all of a sudden boom is that kind of
00:23:09| where we're going with risk like you don't risk happens every day so you're getting it so you could risk and presently how do you know what what it's gonna have what's gonna be you kind of
00:23:19| don't I guess that's the point of risk it's something that will happen and will throw you into uncertainty always like there's a subreddit called what could go wrong and it's always people that like
00:23:35| some of them are obviously they sit on a railing and they accidentally fall over the railing it's like oh yeah some of them are like because they like flip out of the car and they like land on their
00:23:47| feet and like in those situations the adrenaline hasn't even hit them yet and like their cars and pieces all around them but they're fine and they just like walk away and I look at it and you go
00:23:59| like that's impossible like there's no way that person's like completely fine but it's like the reverse of a risk it's like you like the odds of your success are so slim that it's a like it happened
00:24:11| and now how do you react are you like whoa whoa I'm good you just touch your shoulders a lot whoa I'm fine touch your knees a few times yeah touch the chest look for cuts I'm good maybe I'm good I
00:24:23| think I think I'm good and I'm fine that person is probably so close to death that they have no clue and they don't like comprehending how close you are to death how crazy is this
00:24:34| pathway that happens do a head-on collision and you land and you literally spend 30 seconds maybe 40 seconds just touching yourself looking around almost like laughing oh he's on the side of the
00:24:46| road he's just touching himself over there oh my god I can't believe I'm fine like in you're touching your shins and you're like this is nuts and you keep looking at the car and
00:24:57| everything and someone's like pulling over and they're like is everybody okay and you're like it's incredible I know my feet they're like no the other guy he's dead
00:25:04| I think over and the other guys dead and you just spent the whole time like touching yourself and marveling how awesome today is and you're like oh I'm sure that's happened right uncle
00:25:16| you're so that's crazy I don't even know what you would do in that pace then you would suddenly feel terrible yeah that's the weirdest thing it's like
00:25:27| the most euphoric moment of your life and the worst at the same time a little bit that's the other is there's no no no no no no no no no yes so like the yes part is when people like survived all
00:25:41| these things the no part is when it happens and they it does go that yeah it goes wrong horribly wrong the worst I saw was someone was trying to this is like an Arabic nation they tried to jump
00:25:56| over a well and like a giant like maybe like the jump was bright light was like confident like he was gonna do it and he did not and he you think about it like did that guy really think about the
00:26:12| consequences and the odds that it was gonna happen like do you think no there's no way I missed this did he think you know is it worth even doing it because I could possibly die I like to
00:26:23| do it like did he even think about those things it's like I imagine he had to think that he could die when he put it such a small margin that it didn't matter because I mean every time you get
00:26:32| in your car you could die right correct yeah but how many times have you gotten in your car your entire life probably dozens of thousands doesn't literally look like a car right now aren't you I
00:26:45| know my car it's a hatchback it's got space the third row seating yeah but no like he anytime you die you don't expect it or planet I guess right so it's that's like
00:27:06| the ultimate risk like an Evel Knievel I think you kinda he did oh my god dude it they would play it up for months and then weeks and an hours before the show and then half an hour before when he's
00:27:16| gonna do it he's gonna jump at seven probably jumped at like 8:15 because they're talking about it they're showing videos we're talking about death-defying like that's that's cleanup but like
00:27:25| what you talked about a guy doing YouTube videos where he jumps over well for like views like where any of the guys who do the UM what's called freerunning he's telling me what's a
00:27:35| call where guys do clean off the edge with their fingertips yeah and then jump and then jump from rooftop to rooftop and then do a jump here and a flip onto this beam and it's like really cool
00:27:45| stuff but you can slip break your neck pretty easily was it work there's a word it's not planking but it's a freerunning type it was freerunning this they do call it free running for there's another
00:27:57| PO your self at something else the people who climb up bridges like suspension don't like they like jump to like different saying receptor that's gonna piss me off so much what do they
00:28:12| do so wait you jumped from like a roof to another roof to a lower roof to a hanging it's like Mirror's Edge if you ever
00:28:20| played Mirror's Edge but it sounds it's pretty much like via any puzzle game a jumper what are they called a platformer yeah it's a platformer game what's weird about is I imagine that people like
00:28:34| doing that sort of thing I think it's like some sort of sport but like most of the time they're not athletic people so I'm like I wonder what you actually look like like you filmed yourself would it
00:28:45| match up with what your vision is of yourself doing it I think the people that I see that YouTube videos of and I only see the ones that get millions of retweets and views and all that sort of
00:28:55| stuff a really good and our athletic and jumping crazy distances it's not like Joe Schmo who's known among his friends like a local celebrity like among 30 people he does it for 10 people like he
00:29:07| probably doesn't look that good and has a pretty high risk although I guess the risk is the same for the guy who has 10 viewers as 10 million viewers yeah it might be a different skill level
00:29:19| possibly but slight how would you know isn't that weird I can't believe it at the same like do you think me social media is causing these people to like be more brazen because they think hey
00:29:29| here's a chance of me doing something and then they try it it is but I think before social media would you say people were more bored because they didn't you didn't have
00:29:38| access to the world to look at on their phone like the entertainment keeps people from having that sort of thing well yeah other people want a certain other people yeah 100% cuz I mean 50
00:29:50| years ago you couldn't watch YouTube videos of people doing this stuff I think people like in the urban communities in Philadelphia I know 50 years ago it was called chinning where
00:30:00| you would um I'm talking like the 1960s culture in Philadelphia because that's where most of the people I know chinning before okay that's what that's what I'm telling you so in the 70s and 80s 60s
00:30:15| somewhere in there they would do a handstand off of something really high and then flip over and land and the higher you could do something off of the cooler it was so that people were really
00:30:24| good at chinning would do it off of like a lot of cool things it was essentially just doing a handstand and jumping off of something but like they've got higher and higher things and like that a was a
00:30:33| thing of coolness be a thing of entertainment and see like bragging rights but like listening also you like bring your chin down to it like I forget no there's gonna be like one person who
00:30:46| sees this in their entire life that there's what I'm even talking about but just the fact that you couldn't plop around and watch YouTube videos together and movies probably weren't as big and
00:30:53| TV shows and Netflix and also you like that was kind of entertainment I guess actually doing it as opposed to watching it and it probably wasn't as death-defying and cool as some of the
00:31:03| videos like a dude jumping a 10 foot well like over his life like probably didn't see that in local stuff but but the higher the platform the higher the risk it's also a risk over time has
00:31:18| changed like how we treat our children my boo make these like remember when I was in grade school the swing set was two stories tall so you could swing like two stories one day maybe that's an
00:31:31| exaggeration but I was like God like 12 feet but it was definitely larger if not twice as large as any swing set I've seen today so there were kids that would swing to the top of it jump off and then
00:31:44| break their ankles like we ending the my friend Dan the other Dan huh we would do stunts at playgrounds because we were getting too old to play at a playground but we would always go
00:31:55| to Max Myers and just goof around and our two big tricks are claims to fame where we could swing so high that you would just lean back and do the flip where you slip out of the thing and then
00:32:06| land and that was cool and our other one was there's a playset that was like a suspension bridge and I think he would always punch me you would pretend clothesline your friend and he would
00:32:17| flip me over the railing and I would fall it was probably only like a six-foot fall or a 4-foot fall but over the railing he would flip me and we would act like we were angry at each
00:32:26| other and try and put on a show or whatever and who'd hit me and I would flip over backwards and land on my feet or whatever hopefully land on my feet but we we did crap like hand all the
00:32:35| time off the playgrounds and jump off grab cuz we're idiots and it was hilarious do you think that protecting risk is your risk is helpful like you did that might have made you better at
00:32:51| tuning you went free running I don't know what you would call it balling no have fault I've seen people just like at all and not they like braked her how did you didn't you break your fingers of
00:33:05| them when you fall I fell that was snowboarding and yes no I didn't break the finger I broke the UCL don't my thumb no you didn't learn how to fall properly I guess not what's ironic is it
00:33:17| was at the bottom of the mountain after I did a stupid mountain in Colorado like this is scary and I did it and then at the bottom when I was level and flat I fell anyway no I don't think I think
00:33:30| it's all net net equal like I think maybe you take more risks physically doing goofy stuff in at playgrounds at age six back then but maybe that just precludes that future generations will
00:33:42| take their risks doing financial things later or it's student loans or doing something else stupid I mean you you all take I would imagine the same net risks and then pay for it
00:33:54| it just isn't physical anymore there's different risks do you know what I mean at different ages you think big take less risks the example that other people set by
00:34:03| doing something stupid and then having consequences you allow people to see oh that could have been me because like when you're younger you can still get an injury that lasts your entire life but
00:34:15| most people don't see that because they just don't pay attention to it at least when we were younger now it might be like a thing that kids see other kids doing stupid [ __ ] and
00:34:24| they go oh that's what happens if you're doing this particular thing I don't think of this I mean they also see more kids do stupid or stuff they wouldn't have thought of because of the internet
00:34:35| because the YouTube videos all this stuff so like if you see someone who has sort of dangerous you might want to try it and you never thought it up you see them succeed and you want to try it
00:34:47| there's also a recourse that maybe you see them try it get messed up you watch an accident video or dude snaps is like like that might scare you to not do it but I think I think again
00:35:00| it's net you're equaling out because just as many people are thinking that's friggin awesome and I can do that and that's I never thought that up I'm gonna try new [ __ ] I'm gonna do new stupid-ass
00:35:10| dumbass risky stuff and you also have the people who are not gonna take risk so we're like whoa I saw that go wrong I'm not gonna do that but the same people are gonna be doing the risky
00:35:19| moves the same people are not going to be doing the risky moves do you know what I mean I think we all know sense the same people are gonna be making risky moves and not making risky moves
00:35:29| the risky move takers are still going to be taking risky moves but non risk takers are still going to not take the rest those people your yeah because that's yeah you're not premeditated but
00:35:40| like predestined like your personality is such that you're the riskier one yeah and whether you see it on YouTube or not whether you see a success or a failure you're probably going to do it anyway
00:35:50| there are people pretty predisposed to taking risks that's the word predisposed you're welcome I don't think I'm risking I'm definitely not welcome either you're you do a lot of calculations I feel like
00:36:08| I do in spreadsheets or relationships I've ever done a spreadsheet for for a relationship I've done a spreadsheet for breaking out with somebody that's awesome say what are the
00:36:18| positives you're like you're like hold on let me break it down for you there is a reason I did yeah except there's Nick he's a better speaker than I am he'll take over I'm just gonna sit back
00:36:31| here okay this is why Dan wants to break up with you hold on the end all surprise save your questions you know the good stuff I put the good stuff at the end because you always leave with the bad
00:36:45| stuff and follow with the good stuff good stuff bring the bad stuff in the middle and then end with a great and with a good side I think sensitive presentation right there it is
00:36:55| I broke up with my girlfriend did you print it poor I put a six six on a piece of paper I like to save money because the ink is expensive I snit directly to your Google Drive yeah if you can't read
00:37:13| it you can trust me it's in the cloud it's in the cloud mmm your projector there's I can't get it to work can you can you get it I need to talk to you about
00:37:25| something you need a girl fix her TV or projector you can show her the slides showing you breaking up with her weak the moment she thinks that you pull out your laser pointer yeah like see here
00:37:37| click now what we were gonna notice click like this is you this is what I don't like about you things outside the bubble bubbles good the bubbles safe Lord and so I'm going to have to put a
00:37:59| pin in this relationship okay if it was like you have any questions and then like you just justice to her and she's like but I was and then you're not there she looks around and it's like the next
00:38:12| slide rolls over with like a nice cheerful an animation like we're broken remember the table rhymes congratulations and then a roll of pictures of everything that you ever had
00:38:24| that was good minutes that's fire to itself ah self this self-destruct you'll mission impossible idea hmm I'd say yes I'm more risk figure than you but I'm
00:38:36| risky sometimes I like your sin birds you know that I know is it people were super addicted to drugs and do ridiculous [ __ ] even it's people who just go by people want to do the people
00:38:51| I know that are addictive drugs are really not risky in my opinion like they say in their own world and stay put I mean which you're right cuz it would be risky to show up to a business meeting
00:39:05| high on heroin true but then like risk also involves people who understand like what is what the possibilities are I think you can then do it anyway you're just dumb and you don't realize what
00:39:20| you're doing to yourself then that's not risky no that's not considered risk if you are so dumb that you do stupid [ __ ] all the time let's just considered being dumb
00:39:32| yeah I'm not gonna argue with you like so to take risk you have to be an intelligent individual who flies in the face of rationale yeah then I'm risky hundred percent I do [ __ ] against common
00:39:53| common rationale all the time the riskiest thing I've seen so like people like living up north there's a lot of like snow and ice and I know people who are like skilled drivers that like will
00:40:07| do donuts and like they'll drift around things I've seen people that were really really good at it like better than I can comprehend and to them like the risk is there but they're skilled enough to
00:40:21| avoid it something cents because they know what they're doing they clearly not done the hardest drift job of their life in this eight feet of snow in the north for the first time yes they've done
00:40:32| increments of this for dozens and dozens of dozens of times for dozens of years so it's interesting that like that particular thing and it that's why I'm getting that is that I
00:40:43| can't comprehend the risk involved like I know the consequences but I I trust that the person is skilled enough not to screw it up but so is it as big a risk survivor bias though because if he did
00:40:55| crash his car I'd be like oh he sucks like why like why would I ever trust that person but if he didn't crash his car you'd be like wow he's got something that I don't know about there's some
00:41:06| skill there that is like incomprehensible definitely a skill and to shout out um I don't know why he called my eye but some beat-up crappy Nissan hatchback
00:41:18| type thing that people weigh soup up from the 90s maybe so they are the GTR an influence tutor yeah that's a night that's a nice one but I'm talking like a crappy knockoff
00:41:28| vehicle that's supposed to have it has a spoiler and this was a stick shift I was playing outside with my kid and I just live on a two-way street next to a one-way street nerd stop sign whatever
00:41:40| it says some 4-way intersection but no one ever comes down it the roads were covered in snow because we snowed the other day and for whatever reason I heard his car coming probably because
00:41:47| it's you know one of those crappy like engines that makes a lot of noise and it was stick shift and I was like oh cool and I was like he must be a neighbor or something and he was going a little fast
00:41:56| but I don't know why my I drifted to him and I just watched him and he literally just pulled the handbrake and then cut the cut out of gear and just drifted to turn right and I was like yo that's and
00:42:11| he just all he did was he didn't make it a big deal of it he wasn't showing off for anyone like he didn't even pay attention to me he was like I'm going to drifts to the right and I was like
00:42:19| that's kind of badass like it was stupid and it's something I totally was like I wish I could get in my car and do that right now risk is like what if he hits a stop sign when it hits the curb like his
00:42:30| car so low it's gonna quit if there's someone else coming up his car yeah I mean it's it's a it's a quiet enough neighborhood where you can see everything and there was no one coming I
00:42:40| don't know that he would have done it if someone was coming maybe but it was just wild that he did it and then I paid attention because he was doing it now I was like hold on Dom it shut up for a
00:42:49| minute I gotta watch this guy and he goes my kids like oh let's throw snowballs I'm like I need to see this guy and he went down the next street and
00:42:56| there's another tiny side street and he drifted to the left and went up and I was like he doesn't live anywhere around here he's just friggin too in pain drifts the town you know like this is
00:43:05| kind of cool kind of terrible and he did it around the neighborhood and at some point I heard him leave all the neighborhoods that are connected back here I can get back on the broad street
00:43:14| and hit down the way and I heard his engine and I recognize it sounds like wow he's done screwing around in our neighborhood drifting around he was just doing it to practice drifting to the
00:43:24| left or right and I was like that's so stupid because I looked at the guy he's like a 35 year old dude just in his beat-up Nissan I was like why would he do that and it won't one part of me was
00:43:34| a dad and I was a little mad at him like why would you risk so much and the other part of it was like badass dude I wish I had your car I want to do the exact same thing today and no one was on the road
00:43:45| it was quiet he wasn't like I feel like it was calculated like it's not like he was doing it on a busy street and just pulling that hand breaking going nuts like he was doing it fairly calmly but
00:43:58| for no reason other than to do it and that's risk I love risk I changed my mind I love words sometimes as a dad I go back and forth and I don't want my kid to love
00:44:11| risk I just want me to love risk because that makes sense it does actually I don't I want I want me to love risk I don't want other people to love risk that's dangerous
00:44:22| hey you stop it's because most of the time I guess most injuries like if you're dealing with your own injury and it's not severe like you don't involve other people like if I was severely
00:44:32| disabled and it didn't require the intervention of other people I'd be like I'm okay I am it's okay I can I do it later like my dirt bike ride right oh yeah you're
00:44:45| on like your fence yeah put a hole my leg down with it yourself financially yeah emotionally I'm dealing with it I think there's a couple hospitals looking for payment seven hundred dollar bill
00:44:57| that look at my leg it's fine hey they looked at you then just take a look I kept it's okay it's gross but it'll be fine no look thank you they're like ears though Jeff
00:45:07| Bezos in here where's Jeff than that he's sick get here with like seven hundred dollars in pennies that was I don't know what that risk was worth other than idiocy they proved as ATC I
00:45:21| would do it again everyone's like well now you've learned your lesson never gonna touch a dirt bag again I'm like I can't wait to do it again maybe because I'm an idiot
00:45:31| so but I know the risk so maybe I'm not an idiot now why did you why did that happen though like it seems like when you described it it seems like wow he doesn't know how to drift down the
00:45:41| street why did he get on a bike and try to drive it try to ride it I don't like you know was it gas versus brake or something you know which one is which it's just weird cuz your hands control
00:45:54| the things and the gears and I was told to keep it in first and well here's the problem everyone who doesn't know the story I went around I went around his bumpy ass stupid ass yard once and I did
00:46:06| it okay I went very slow but like I went around the whole yard and I was like this is this is cool like riding a dirt bike badass like and I driven stick shift before I know how to change gears
00:46:16| I get all that so I decided to go around again because it was cool because it felt awesome because it was fun and it's just the second time around I got too close to the fence and I couldn't
00:46:27| remember I was like up against his fence and I was like if I don't well if I don't stop I'm gonna ruin his fence like I'm [ __ ] so I held down both which is the gas and the clutch and when you do
00:46:38| that it's revving the engine but you stop because the motors disengaged so I literally was stopped and I was like I'm fine and as you let go of both at the exact
00:46:48| same time it just kicks into gear and shoots up and at that point I grabbed it because I thought it was going to go into magazine road and hit a car and I was gonna like kill someone but
00:46:57| apparently a dirt bike that looks like it weighs 40 pounds weighs like it weighs a lot so it just picked me up into the air and slam me back down on it and impaled my leg
00:47:08| and I did go through his fence turns out the fence just picks back up and walks back in it was no big deal for my leg cuz no doesn't just no can't seem to get back up and put it back in new but it
00:47:21| was that one was a failure will say cuz it cost me thousands of dollars ish hundreds of dollars plus so like just into the thousands and I didn't get to go around the yard more than once and a
00:47:34| half and yeah everyone told me how much of an idiot I was but it was worth it do you know what's worth it just doing new [ __ ] doing weird [ __ ] doing [ __ ] that you can't it you have Bill right doing
00:47:48| if I didn't do it when was I gonna try a dirt bike are you gonna try a dirt bike anytime soon that is one of the things that my cousin's I've quads and I distinctly remember them like gunning it
00:48:01| in the back of a like a field to an open field lots of like dead brush and grass and stuff yeah and like they would slide like kind of drifting and they'd let it like rock on like two wheels okay and
00:48:17| it's like I'm not in control I don't know it's not hard that you can adjust you can always redirect yourself and level off but with them it's like if I if it rolls and I get killed by it I can
00:48:30| be yeah I can seriously be freaked you would never do that with a rocking in two wheels and all that crap until you get comfortable with something if you don't do wild [ __ ] until you you know
00:48:40| boundaries you feel a nasty little you've added 100 percent yeah and that's why I'm the only way to get better at something like that physical pushing the body or bike exactly you have to risk to
00:48:56| get better at something don't you I think you do even something as stupid as drums like it sounds like a stupid risk but if you're playing a beat and 4/4 and you're like hey can I do this you have
00:49:07| to take a risk to do something that sounds stupid you have to take a risk to do something your body's not used to its offbeat you have to it's a risk you have to do something you've never done so
00:49:18| most of the time you fail but when it's the drums it's not a big deal yeah that's what I'd say well I don't know it depends on who you are because when I was younger I was afraid of like
00:49:27| speak my voice and having people here what I'm creating so playing drums like everyone can hear it so well I'm talking about in my house alone but no no I would practice that but I see resented
00:49:38| God but like people in my house even like my mom and dad I didn't want them to hear like me trying to create some screw up yeah well you make a dumb sound or like start a bee and then go off
00:49:48| pattern or sound nasty or something yeah and a lot of that is I don't like when do you think when the biggest drummers in the world they started do you think they they were I screwed up a lot oh my
00:50:01| god probably it's like any instrument think about it you screw up all the time like failure probably happens there's a stupid old sales cliches that are like failure is 99% of success or they make
00:50:15| up really dumb sayings but they're a little bit true and that you can't you can't know what to look for in failing until you do it and then you'll know what failure isn't how to avoid it like
00:50:27| you can't you can avoid failure if you've never failed do you know what I mean yeah so let me bring in the food I got mmm it's like that that trading bot that I'm working on I've had that ever
00:50:39| since like I was like in my 20s but it's like the fifth iteration so like there's no possible way that I could have done it right straight from the start in a straight line
00:50:51| I had to deer find dead ends go back and fail so many times and all of the people that start businesses like their retrospect is almost never oh I tried this and failed try that and failed like
00:51:05| they don't remember I don't think anything that I did ten years ago and remember accurately you also don't remember the failures as strongly if they're personal
00:51:15| what do you mean like I tried this it didn't work so I tweaked it and I remember this like you don't always remember what you tried it didn't work you just remember you fixed it yeah you
00:51:24| spent a lot of time fixing things you remember the end result because it's an easy piece of information remember you also are currently working on it like good on me
00:51:33| if you're currently working on your body whatever you remember what got you here so you remember some of the failures most of the successes because they're still building the code it's kind of
00:51:43| like how life is you remember most of your successes a few of your failures I don't know when you keep building towards more mm-hmm yeah risk risk baby you like the board oh yeah I never
00:52:04| played it I like the computer I don't like versions where you have to like physically movies and yeah move my hands what no hands
00:52:14| disgusting monopoly with real money oh gosh disgusting take it I can imagine did you cheat at monopoly who doesn't that's I don't who cares I want it to be over I'm like this I'm like oh no the
00:52:37| bank got my money are we done someone's like it's been five minutes Nikki keep playing it's be your mother I'm like god dammit you still have more money and I'm like
00:52:47| uh I reversed you oh my god the bank took all my money Nikki you gave too much money I'm like I wish this would be over like my life mom she's like you're 13 stop in that
00:53:01| instance what would you do otherwise we would go like you'd be hoping you can go play like Donkey Kong Country or something yeah anything elegant like just general ah I told you minimal good
00:53:13| one crash bandicoot song also like my son wants to buy a spyro game and I was like what hmm Tyra the drooling helps a cool game you know he showed me the game and I was
00:53:25| like Spyro he's like yeah dad how'd you know I was like yeah like the way he said it like I knew the character's name is crash bandicoot they're in the same game you know boy he's like yeah and he
00:53:37| does this and you can jump on things like I know I know relax I'm well aware I don't know can't wait you'll get there hmm I think that covers it
00:53:51| I think we've yeah we're good well let's let's end it what some risk is good I think it is actually is stupidity is bad no but she is going outside your comfort zone I think it really it hearkens on
00:54:12| the people that just are completely oblivious it's kind of ignorance is a piece that we didn't really cover like when people so like I'm overly cautious I think about almost everything and I
00:54:24| calculated almost research already late and like the people that just like blindly go and then they like ride right through it I'm like I'm like but you didn't think about this that or that
00:54:35| it's like maybe you made it maybe you didn't but pure luck I don't here's what's gonna cook your [ __ ] noodle okay you don't get any of that time back the time spent researching and making it
00:54:50| right and tweaking it and yeah preparing calculating it now you can come back and say you come back you don't get any of your time back for anything in your diet so I get it that's a real good retort a
00:55:00| good time back for anything but I mean we are what we spend time doing so we should mitigate risk we should really think about what we do and not ride dirt bikes when you're like 35 ish cuz maybe
00:55:15| have a kid and maybe you could crash it and bust up your leg but also maybe just [ __ ] do it I don't know I don't know the answer I don't think anyone does interesting and that's kind of what
00:55:29| makes us human a little bit of risk baby and I don't mean the board game because Dan doesn't play board games and not anymore not since computers were invented Oh 1981 so we discuss risk we
00:55:45| talked about what's dangerous what's crazy what's calculated what's worth it I'm gonna sleep with who does sleeveless that's a risk you never know what you're gonna find
00:56:01| mm-hmm we talked about kilowatts that this podcast uses and how much it costs to power an episode and whether or not and oh that one Amy 20 cents cuz both of us whether or not we owe that money to
00:56:14| someone we live with that's R is the risk yeah it's a risk baby and whether you bring this exact sentence up to them later who knows might be a terrible idea but she's saving you do it anyway Pico I
00:56:26| paid over the Biko Biko power play she comes with a hockey sticks and just reach your ass with it that's a risk mm-hmm I think we talked about all the risks
00:56:40| yeah well I'm like yeah we like you you even if you're serial killers you're all right people you're nazis you're weirdos you're perverts you do all sorts of crazy stuff
00:56:54| I don't know that we're gonna promote yet we like you for listening baby oh but anyway we like it we like you a lot check out them sotius check out our
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00:01:40| panderers welcome it's funny we don't pander to Punk I feel like opinion or money like I'm gonna change her and all the changer we're not gonna change our format I don't care how much the big
00:01:56| companies are throwing at us we're gonna keep doing it the way we want to do it sounds written to agree with that she's raised good money take the money take the money is run uh so good there's a
00:02:09| risk and taking the money in running about oh yeah cuz they could catch you do you think big horse renounce him like the guys that beat you up big no serious Reds like I think those people are hired
00:02:25| by people in the company but it's under the books we never sanctioned that mine evil my my beautiful knees off the table your knees had been removed I mean could Jeff Bezos beat up anyone what if there
00:02:44| was someone who was claiming Jeff Bezos could not beat him up and there was like this weird UPS well with like he has enough money man he could do it and he was like no you can't do it they'll
00:02:53| trace the money back to him do you think he could pay a guy to pay a guy to wire a guy to do some searching on like Reddit and then do some searching on some like black market stuff to pay a
00:03:04| guy to beat that guy up or do you think if it was high opinion enough and like in the spotlight enough that somehow someone would crack the code and figure it out and we know Jeff Bezos did it did
00:03:15| you ever see the movie twins with Danny DeVito and Arnold Schwarzenegger I'm not a hundred percent I feel like I've just seen parts of it in my life you've seen the part in the end where he gets hit
00:03:24| with the chain and the changes comes falling falling falling falling and just covers him entirely no I haven't recalled that's hilarious hello hello I was waiting to hear a part
00:03:34| but I heard from twins I'm like yeah okay no I didn't recall that know if Jeff Beezus has a superpower it's just like hitting people with money and like delusion them
00:03:43| and money until they're completely killed cover oh my god can you imagine he donated so much money it killed them he's so charitable everyone good oh my God all those poor children he's just
00:03:55| like a wave of money screaming and they're just like he's so kind just wave that money likes is everything and it's like a guy was like broken legs because he hit the mistakes of money just so
00:04:11| many quarters landing on him just killing risk it would be really great right now to start with like a definition of risk a definition would be I'll really because there's like
00:04:30| everything that do is a reason so the reason I picked risk is that I had this giant software program ready to go and it's all written by me and if you think about it if I'm sleepy or I don't double
00:04:44| check things and I definitely don't test things the way they're supposed to be tested any one line of code and like the thousands of lines of code could cause a problem that just destroys the whole
00:04:56| thing makes it so it isn't whirlwind your life's work be pretty sweet yeah yeah you don't know at least it's only money but it's just money folks I've written software for like explosive
00:05:08| stuff too and it makes it like really frightening to be like the only like you're culpable like it's almost like because they could always trace that code back it's written in and entered by
00:05:20| one individual I mean you have some fallback your company okayed it someone okay that someone checked it and said yeah we're good to go but ultimately you wrote it mmm-hmm there's nothing that
00:05:32| many things in life that you can you put your stamp on that relies someone relies their life relies on your code or your whatever you did or whatever you're doing like here the definition for
00:05:47| it's gonna be very businesslike it kind of is risk is the potential for uncontrolled loss of something of value the value such as physical health social status emotional well-being or financial
00:06:00| wealth they can be gained or lost when taking risk resulting from a given action or inaction foreseen or unforeseen planned or not plant risk can also be defined as the intentional
00:06:11| interaction with uncertainty dun dun dun uncertainty as a potential unpredictable uncontrolled welcome it's an aspect of action taken in spite of uncertainty Oh would you like to live with that risk
00:06:26| won't it be enjoyable I don't think you can to be honest with you you imagine if you can't take risks you have to take risks like even if you're like I'm controlled that you didn't worry about
00:06:36| anything learning to walk is a risk someone learning to walk in a incubator with like wood or shoes and like in a a tough that's only 7 inches of water yes I said water
00:06:49| it's hard as a higher risk of like drowning and actually like hurting yourself falling that's why I said 7 inches mm-hmm can you drown in seven inches of
00:06:57| water I think you can drown someone else since I'm an inch of water right I don't think you could drown but you could drown someone do you think your body will flip you over is this the
00:07:07| discussion three inches I think is where you would - if you roll on your side and it like can you drown with only half your mouth being covered I think you can probably kent's all right one inch of
00:07:22| water yeah the podcast yep okay what did you do I was reminded that she paid the Pico bill and that the the computer that would be on anyway is under that rule and that I should be done with it
00:07:47| oh wow that's did you tell her how much it actually costs for a kilowatt of power no I did not and I would not like to sit down and explain it to her it seems like a lot of work you get them
00:07:59| all Wi-Fi hours first Ward's also a risk assessment and it's not worth of this you do not engage as we say here the the reward versus the what's the opposite of
00:08:10| reward downfall hmm its kind of risk reward but we're talking about what yeah the reward versus the loss is not worth the risk if I were to say so consequences so I had a job where I was
00:08:26| calculating risk for a rocket and those going to be launched in space so they have these matrices that are like likelihood versus consequences mm-hmm the whole thing is like if you
00:08:39| multiplied them together then it could you like that like a value and like certain values make it so that you care about them more and then you have to like do different layers of protection
00:08:48| and make sure that they don't happen may be mitigating yeah god damn I love some mitigating some risk so you're gonna leave the computer on with so you're not mitigating risks that way I am NOT I'm a
00:09:03| dangerous individual I make one hour this podcast is about an hour so mm-hmm probably your computer's maybe less than a thousand Watts so maybe it's 10 cents it is it's 8:50 with the lightbulb above
00:09:17| you is probably oh good point we're adding in other factors you're right you're correct calculating at all well that is 10 cents you should let's get a dime every time you go podcast and
00:09:30| just slam it down in front of her have you like that's that is a risk that is also unwarranted you don't have to do in front of her you guys buy this I was loading random places dimes everywhere I
00:09:45| can put them like I did in her underwear so every time she takes it off she's like wow where is this coming from where did I get this time you tell me lady of the night hmm we're
00:10:01| so yeah we were distracted by someone's input we were um what's interesting is that my job now I actually have I didn't really just a mini risk assessment anytime I put together an order I have
00:10:14| to place my initials the day and then literally the word risk : and then the level of risk for the fridge or yeah most people were like you can't use a - I'm like why not what's the difference
00:10:28| then they're like just it's my risk its : and then you put so you have to put low medium or high and the risk is I think of it's a value-added service with something that's non-returnable and that
00:10:40| we're doing something to the wire or cable like twisting it cutting it - stripping it dyeing it all these things there's a small rest detail but because it's what we if we cut it to you know
00:10:54| the ends and then twist it and send it to a customer if they say oh this was wrong it's coming back to us what do we do with that exactly so it's a medium risk
00:11:05| yeah now there are other risk is like if we don't have the material in-house we're ordering it from a manufacturer what do they send us the wrong stuff what if
00:11:13| they ran out what if they sold it before you got it that's a medium risk high risk oh my god don't get me started on high risk me personally no oh okay high risk under national customer it's going
00:11:27| overseas someone we can't really have control of what they do with it it's moving parts it's all these different things that we translate properly oh maybe they met millimeters oops
00:11:37| and then I don't know it's like whoa this job could go fuchal sideways for a lot of money and it's like hmm good luck that's a high-risk job but they let me do whatever when I want some I just have
00:11:48| to write on there interesting I guess do you write anyway then feel know I always write low or medium like I'm not like selling weird cut strip custom cable jobs to Taiwan or anything like that for
00:12:02| like a hundred thousand feet yet dunt that um what use him like military great and has a risk to it we're gonna build muscle so the best you sort of so that's the other thing I've come into
00:12:16| with this business I've never if I sell toilet paper and paper towels like it's just toilet paper or paper towels like you get it you use it if it's if it's a screwed up box ok return it I'll give
00:12:26| you a new one because that bad happens in toilet paper and paper towels sometimes are fred in sometimes murder scene cuts with your paper towels it's like this one type of paper towels up at
00:12:34| every murder scene it's like we have to prevent the sale of this or else people will die would ride it to the forefront of public opinion free the paper town and then you have paper towels for all
00:12:52| so hold on so this is the other thing about risk at my job that I'd never come across and sort of ties into what you're talking about when I sell wire wire has to carry a
00:13:03| signal it has to carry an electric signal that turn something on turn something off sounds pretty stupid but if it's like a turbine or a blade or something that has to work or plenum
00:13:15| cable that's cable that goes above a high price then like the ceilings that like ties lights and stuff together that has to be non-viable has to be plenum has to be rated so that it won't burst
00:13:26| into flame so that it won't fail so that it won't like shipboard cable has to be stuff that's super reliable and zero halogens low low smoke all these things start adding up and it's like it's the
00:13:37| same cable that I can sell Joe Schmo at the shop but for an extra ten times as much money you can buy one that's rated and will not fail and like what means it will not fail it's risk free you can
00:13:49| need a new job why this is literally the companies you're talking about this is the [ __ ] they buy for big money literally NASA will only buy [ __ ] it's like milspec radiant i think lately
00:14:03| they've been moving to other [ __ ] well that's home talks about like i dunno about that [ __ ] and they only buy [ __ ] that will not fail and it's like Teflon is it rated to this voltage and
00:14:13| is it rated to this and i'm like who cares and they're like we're sending it into space and i'm like probably we fine so this like this is the most fun part of my job really
00:14:23| towards the end of my NASA career is that they they wouldn't analyze like all sorts of risk like all different types like you'd get a variety one of the best ones was like if a rocket hits a bird on
00:14:35| the way up like bird strike like how do you exactly how do you quantify that risk and then like they had people minimal zero but tell me they help make go ahead people that we studied this
00:14:48| that were experts in it so they would like tap on this expert say like well what's what's the risk here so like they went in like analyze like time of day like where the birds like where do they
00:14:59| sit like what's their path windshield what part were they gonna hit how big are they how high do they fly like what season do they fly in like if we can go like before storm or after storm is it
00:15:09| better like all of these like factors or just like multiplied together and be like you don't want to do this because you're gonna get hit with a bird at like this outfit where it's gonna be very bad
00:15:19| and it was crazy there's one guy that spent years studying birds flying in this one spot it's like that was his job that's like your job he's like yeah that's wild to
00:15:35| me innit I don't care think I care and I would think Nasser somebody wouldn't care but I guess if you're spending 1 billion dollars to build something to launch and it's a one time launch how do
00:15:47| you guarantee that it's going to work it's worth spending the extra money on parts and research that guarantees that it will not have a snafu as it were but can you imagine if a billion dollar
00:16:01| rocket did hit a bunch of birds and got just [ __ ] sideways and the whole project was ruined it's almost like ah they hit Birds sounds like I ruined it him dance birds but it's like it's so
00:16:13| like we go through all these things to find like easy preventive measures like if you could play a siren if you have technology that screwed birds away and you can fire something in the air that
00:16:23| would prevent them from going in that path beforehand like all of that is like very reasonable compared to a billion dollars it is so it's a risk/reward type scale
00:16:34| that you're talking about which in our day-to-day lives really doesn't seem to be important that is actually hilarious to talk about but I guess it makes sense this is the entire job of like insurance
00:16:45| and life insurance and like that kind of a thing they do all these studies that are literally it's a risk reward for a company that's trying to make money when you paying it so that if someone dies or
00:16:58| is hurt they don't have to pay you as much as they're making from charging you this is an actuary actually injured I'm sorry correct yeah I love that that's kind of
00:17:08| the weirdest job in the world yeah and it's I guess it's kind of interesting but I think it'd be awesome be kind of soul sucking at the same time because you wouldn't actually be living
00:17:18| you need to be calculating much and stuff it's like calculating life which you can't do but you can sort of you get damn well close to correlating a pretty good number then it correlates the
00:17:30| numbers baby get some percentages in there Oh flambe some risk mmm so there's other types of risk that like sleeping with one at the office like why don't more people do that that's a risk yes I
00:17:46| see I I don't know where people find the time not the risk it's the time you know it's their work and can't give him the business of business I recently spoke with a co-worker about this it's called
00:18:01| [ __ ] where you eat in it's not always a great decision yeah cuz how what are the odds that works out and they're the the new one we know that's weird - it's probably that's that's best
00:18:15| case scenario which is weird because it probably isn't really the best case scenario it's best casing room for your risk like chances are she's not and you're not going to leave and become
00:18:27| happily married because then you're you're also working that's weird - like that none of it there's no good path that's a fun experience is it I guess so yeah
00:18:37| physically and emotionally a little bit of a fling yeah some fun you can do it close to the office that's that's we're in power to you problem is it will always end in either jaded ISM that's a
00:18:50| that's a real word maybe revenge someone finding out it going awry that word oh right awry rut classic that's a zero-day didn't last me I guess of people at
00:19:06| school but I I mean I'm trying to think if I slept with them it went and I still had classes with them pass with it maybe one girl that was in my major but but do you it's not like she can that it at
00:19:23| that point your life they can't what are they gonna to my kitchen Yeley suspended from school from something well they can't that's that's school doesn't have those kind of rules yeah so but like
00:19:35| worst-case scenario if it does go awry like what do they do to you like a they like it's not like you're working on an individual project and both of you were together I picked you two at random and
00:19:46| you're gonna do this project for the semester it's for your entire grade and you have to work together it's like that doesn't happen you barely have to rely on each other at most you just have to
00:19:54| be in each other's presence for a little bit quietly and maybe you're secretly hating them or they're hating you or they're remembering or they're they wanted it to keep going or you didn't or
00:20:04| they're disgusted by you or they remember something in they're pissed at you do you feel awkward in these situations have you ever feel awkward once the last time you felt awkward I
00:20:15| feel awkward sometimes I just can't think I can't think of the last time I felt awkward oh I know where where I walked uh there's a guy that works in HR and he's like as he's the same age as
00:20:25| all the sales reps so today I know his name he doesn't know mine I like yo Brad and he was like hey what's up and he seems like a normal cool chill dude and he was walking the same direction I did
00:20:35| and me and Daffy or leaving and I was like yo I was walking with dad so he started walking with us and dad I swear to god he's carrying a chick-fil-a styrofoam cup filled with soda from
00:20:46| earlier in the day as he's walking on his way out of work it burst and I was like dude because I thought he dropped it and he's like dude look and he turned to show me
00:20:57| the whole bottom just dropped out a circular cut all at once the acid must have eaten away at it all day or something it was a perfect circle and everyone's staring and we had to get
00:21:07| napkins and stuff and we're dabbing it with napkins and he went back to the bathroom to go get some paper towels and me Brad and are just standing there and he was getting ready to leave and he's
00:21:17| not really our friend and he was like uh and I was like I was like it's it's cool dude and he's like standing there I was like you can leave we're adults we can clean it up I was because like he was
00:21:26| standing around like waiting didn't leave yeah but I didn't say it mean I was just like he was on his way out to go home no man your seat was in life and he was like yeah yeah cuz like I felt
00:21:36| like it was just hanging around too long and I was like okay and then he rolled it and I waited around for dad I was like yo dad you need me help clean up you go to he's like yeah I'm good I'm
00:21:45| like like I pointed to her Brad was and I shook my head like it was just weird that he did that and I guess I wasn't awkward but like you can still feel awkward with people like it's like so
00:21:57| there was a moment that I think this was in college and it broke my leg and I was crushing upstairs and one of my lab mates from like a previous class was behind me and crunching up I fell down
00:22:11| and like I really like fell down the steps I wasn't hurt but I like some of the bottom it's one of those things that my classmate didn't know how to like interact with tell men you yeah I think
00:22:23| he'll heal physically did he know if they should touch you yes that's a weird thing who you touching who you don't touch plus I think I like he didn't like me because I didn't help on that project
00:22:32| very well so he was like oh it just kind of like stood there like awkward landing turn out bend over like he's gonna help you he's like you got this you okay do you need help and you're like already
00:22:46| picking yourself up so clearly you're okay and it's like um I'm good dude yeah it's strange when things happen that you've never seen before because you don't know how you're gonna react or the
00:22:57| expectations of yourself are not anything that you know nothing knows we couldn't prepare yourself for them it's just you're thrust into it all of a sudden boom is that kind of
00:23:09| where we're going with risk like you don't risk happens every day so you're getting it so you could risk and presently how do you know what what it's gonna have what's gonna be you kind of
00:23:19| don't I guess that's the point of risk it's something that will happen and will throw you into uncertainty always like there's a subreddit called what could go wrong and it's always people that like
00:23:35| some of them are obviously they sit on a railing and they accidentally fall over the railing it's like oh yeah some of them are like because they like flip out of the car and they like land on their
00:23:47| feet and like in those situations the adrenaline hasn't even hit them yet and like their cars and pieces all around them but they're fine and they just like walk away and I look at it and you go
00:23:59| like that's impossible like there's no way that person's like completely fine but it's like the reverse of a risk it's like you like the odds of your success are so slim that it's a like it happened
00:24:11| and now how do you react are you like whoa whoa I'm good you just touch your shoulders a lot whoa I'm fine touch your knees a few times yeah touch the chest look for cuts I'm good maybe I'm good I
00:24:23| think I think I'm good and I'm fine that person is probably so close to death that they have no clue and they don't like comprehending how close you are to death how crazy is this
00:24:34| pathway that happens do a head-on collision and you land and you literally spend 30 seconds maybe 40 seconds just touching yourself looking around almost like laughing oh he's on the side of the
00:24:46| road he's just touching himself over there oh my god I can't believe I'm fine like in you're touching your shins and you're like this is nuts and you keep looking at the car and
00:24:57| everything and someone's like pulling over and they're like is everybody okay and you're like it's incredible I know my feet they're like no the other guy he's dead
00:25:04| I think over and the other guys dead and you just spent the whole time like touching yourself and marveling how awesome today is and you're like oh I'm sure that's happened right uncle
00:25:16| you're so that's crazy I don't even know what you would do in that pace then you would suddenly feel terrible yeah that's the weirdest thing it's like
00:25:27| the most euphoric moment of your life and the worst at the same time a little bit that's the other is there's no no no no no no no no no yes so like the yes part is when people like survived all
00:25:41| these things the no part is when it happens and they it does go that yeah it goes wrong horribly wrong the worst I saw was someone was trying to this is like an Arabic nation they tried to jump
00:25:56| over a well and like a giant like maybe like the jump was bright light was like confident like he was gonna do it and he did not and he you think about it like did that guy really think about the
00:26:12| consequences and the odds that it was gonna happen like do you think no there's no way I missed this did he think you know is it worth even doing it because I could possibly die I like to
00:26:23| do it like did he even think about those things it's like I imagine he had to think that he could die when he put it such a small margin that it didn't matter because I mean every time you get
00:26:32| in your car you could die right correct yeah but how many times have you gotten in your car your entire life probably dozens of thousands doesn't literally look like a car right now aren't you I
00:26:45| know my car it's a hatchback it's got space the third row seating yeah but no like he anytime you die you don't expect it or planet I guess right so it's that's like
00:27:06| the ultimate risk like an Evel Knievel I think you kinda he did oh my god dude it they would play it up for months and then weeks and an hours before the show and then half an hour before when he's
00:27:16| gonna do it he's gonna jump at seven probably jumped at like 8:15 because they're talking about it they're showing videos we're talking about death-defying like that's that's cleanup but like
00:27:25| what you talked about a guy doing YouTube videos where he jumps over well for like views like where any of the guys who do the UM what's called freerunning he's telling me what's a
00:27:35| call where guys do clean off the edge with their fingertips yeah and then jump and then jump from rooftop to rooftop and then do a jump here and a flip onto this beam and it's like really cool
00:27:45| stuff but you can slip break your neck pretty easily was it work there's a word it's not planking but it's a freerunning type it was freerunning this they do call it free running for there's another
00:27:57| PO your self at something else the people who climb up bridges like suspension don't like they like jump to like different saying receptor that's gonna piss me off so much what do they
00:28:12| do so wait you jumped from like a roof to another roof to a lower roof to a hanging it's like Mirror's Edge if you ever
00:28:20| played Mirror's Edge but it sounds it's pretty much like via any puzzle game a jumper what are they called a platformer yeah it's a platformer game what's weird about is I imagine that people like
00:28:34| doing that sort of thing I think it's like some sort of sport but like most of the time they're not athletic people so I'm like I wonder what you actually look like like you filmed yourself would it
00:28:45| match up with what your vision is of yourself doing it I think the people that I see that YouTube videos of and I only see the ones that get millions of retweets and views and all that sort of
00:28:55| stuff a really good and our athletic and jumping crazy distances it's not like Joe Schmo who's known among his friends like a local celebrity like among 30 people he does it for 10 people like he
00:29:07| probably doesn't look that good and has a pretty high risk although I guess the risk is the same for the guy who has 10 viewers as 10 million viewers yeah it might be a different skill level
00:29:19| possibly but slight how would you know isn't that weird I can't believe it at the same like do you think me social media is causing these people to like be more brazen because they think hey
00:29:29| here's a chance of me doing something and then they try it it is but I think before social media would you say people were more bored because they didn't you didn't have
00:29:38| access to the world to look at on their phone like the entertainment keeps people from having that sort of thing well yeah other people want a certain other people yeah 100% cuz I mean 50
00:29:50| years ago you couldn't watch YouTube videos of people doing this stuff I think people like in the urban communities in Philadelphia I know 50 years ago it was called chinning where
00:30:00| you would um I'm talking like the 1960s culture in Philadelphia because that's where most of the people I know chinning before okay that's what that's what I'm telling you so in the 70s and 80s 60s
00:30:15| somewhere in there they would do a handstand off of something really high and then flip over and land and the higher you could do something off of the cooler it was so that people were really
00:30:24| good at chinning would do it off of like a lot of cool things it was essentially just doing a handstand and jumping off of something but like they've got higher and higher things and like that a was a
00:30:33| thing of coolness be a thing of entertainment and see like bragging rights but like listening also you like bring your chin down to it like I forget no there's gonna be like one person who
00:30:46| sees this in their entire life that there's what I'm even talking about but just the fact that you couldn't plop around and watch YouTube videos together and movies probably weren't as big and
00:30:53| TV shows and Netflix and also you like that was kind of entertainment I guess actually doing it as opposed to watching it and it probably wasn't as death-defying and cool as some of the
00:31:03| videos like a dude jumping a 10 foot well like over his life like probably didn't see that in local stuff but but the higher the platform the higher the risk it's also a risk over time has
00:31:18| changed like how we treat our children my boo make these like remember when I was in grade school the swing set was two stories tall so you could swing like two stories one day maybe that's an
00:31:31| exaggeration but I was like God like 12 feet but it was definitely larger if not twice as large as any swing set I've seen today so there were kids that would swing to the top of it jump off and then
00:31:44| break their ankles like we ending the my friend Dan the other Dan huh we would do stunts at playgrounds because we were getting too old to play at a playground but we would always go
00:31:55| to Max Myers and just goof around and our two big tricks are claims to fame where we could swing so high that you would just lean back and do the flip where you slip out of the thing and then
00:32:06| land and that was cool and our other one was there's a playset that was like a suspension bridge and I think he would always punch me you would pretend clothesline your friend and he would
00:32:17| flip me over the railing and I would fall it was probably only like a six-foot fall or a 4-foot fall but over the railing he would flip me and we would act like we were angry at each
00:32:26| other and try and put on a show or whatever and who'd hit me and I would flip over backwards and land on my feet or whatever hopefully land on my feet but we we did crap like hand all the
00:32:35| time off the playgrounds and jump off grab cuz we're idiots and it was hilarious do you think that protecting risk is your risk is helpful like you did that might have made you better at
00:32:51| tuning you went free running I don't know what you would call it balling no have fault I've seen people just like at all and not they like braked her how did you didn't you break your fingers of
00:33:05| them when you fall I fell that was snowboarding and yes no I didn't break the finger I broke the UCL don't my thumb no you didn't learn how to fall properly I guess not what's ironic is it
00:33:17| was at the bottom of the mountain after I did a stupid mountain in Colorado like this is scary and I did it and then at the bottom when I was level and flat I fell anyway no I don't think I think
00:33:30| it's all net net equal like I think maybe you take more risks physically doing goofy stuff in at playgrounds at age six back then but maybe that just precludes that future generations will
00:33:42| take their risks doing financial things later or it's student loans or doing something else stupid I mean you you all take I would imagine the same net risks and then pay for it
00:33:54| it just isn't physical anymore there's different risks do you know what I mean at different ages you think big take less risks the example that other people set by
00:34:03| doing something stupid and then having consequences you allow people to see oh that could have been me because like when you're younger you can still get an injury that lasts your entire life but
00:34:15| most people don't see that because they just don't pay attention to it at least when we were younger now it might be like a thing that kids see other kids doing stupid [ __ ] and
00:34:24| they go oh that's what happens if you're doing this particular thing I don't think of this I mean they also see more kids do stupid or stuff they wouldn't have thought of because of the internet
00:34:35| because the YouTube videos all this stuff so like if you see someone who has sort of dangerous you might want to try it and you never thought it up you see them succeed and you want to try it
00:34:47| there's also a recourse that maybe you see them try it get messed up you watch an accident video or dude snaps is like like that might scare you to not do it but I think I think again
00:35:00| it's net you're equaling out because just as many people are thinking that's friggin awesome and I can do that and that's I never thought that up I'm gonna try new [ __ ] I'm gonna do new stupid-ass
00:35:10| dumbass risky stuff and you also have the people who are not gonna take risk so we're like whoa I saw that go wrong I'm not gonna do that but the same people are gonna be doing the risky
00:35:19| moves the same people are not going to be doing the risky moves do you know what I mean I think we all know sense the same people are gonna be making risky moves and not making risky moves
00:35:29| the risky move takers are still going to be taking risky moves but non risk takers are still going to not take the rest those people your yeah because that's yeah you're not premeditated but
00:35:40| like predestined like your personality is such that you're the riskier one yeah and whether you see it on YouTube or not whether you see a success or a failure you're probably going to do it anyway
00:35:50| there are people pretty predisposed to taking risks that's the word predisposed you're welcome I don't think I'm risking I'm definitely not welcome either you're you do a lot of calculations I feel like
00:36:08| I do in spreadsheets or relationships I've ever done a spreadsheet for for a relationship I've done a spreadsheet for breaking out with somebody that's awesome say what are the
00:36:18| positives you're like you're like hold on let me break it down for you there is a reason I did yeah except there's Nick he's a better speaker than I am he'll take over I'm just gonna sit back
00:36:31| here okay this is why Dan wants to break up with you hold on the end all surprise save your questions you know the good stuff I put the good stuff at the end because you always leave with the bad
00:36:45| stuff and follow with the good stuff good stuff bring the bad stuff in the middle and then end with a great and with a good side I think sensitive presentation right there it is
00:36:55| I broke up with my girlfriend did you print it poor I put a six six on a piece of paper I like to save money because the ink is expensive I snit directly to your Google Drive yeah if you can't read
00:37:13| it you can trust me it's in the cloud it's in the cloud mmm your projector there's I can't get it to work can you can you get it I need to talk to you about
00:37:25| something you need a girl fix her TV or projector you can show her the slides showing you breaking up with her weak the moment she thinks that you pull out your laser pointer yeah like see here
00:37:37| click now what we were gonna notice click like this is you this is what I don't like about you things outside the bubble bubbles good the bubbles safe Lord and so I'm going to have to put a
00:37:59| pin in this relationship okay if it was like you have any questions and then like you just justice to her and she's like but I was and then you're not there she looks around and it's like the next
00:38:12| slide rolls over with like a nice cheerful an animation like we're broken remember the table rhymes congratulations and then a roll of pictures of everything that you ever had
00:38:24| that was good minutes that's fire to itself ah self this self-destruct you'll mission impossible idea hmm I'd say yes I'm more risk figure than you but I'm
00:38:36| risky sometimes I like your sin birds you know that I know is it people were super addicted to drugs and do ridiculous [ __ ] even it's people who just go by people want to do the people
00:38:51| I know that are addictive drugs are really not risky in my opinion like they say in their own world and stay put I mean which you're right cuz it would be risky to show up to a business meeting
00:39:05| high on heroin true but then like risk also involves people who understand like what is what the possibilities are I think you can then do it anyway you're just dumb and you don't realize what
00:39:20| you're doing to yourself then that's not risky no that's not considered risk if you are so dumb that you do stupid [ __ ] all the time let's just considered being dumb
00:39:32| yeah I'm not gonna argue with you like so to take risk you have to be an intelligent individual who flies in the face of rationale yeah then I'm risky hundred percent I do [ __ ] against common
00:39:53| common rationale all the time the riskiest thing I've seen so like people like living up north there's a lot of like snow and ice and I know people who are like skilled drivers that like will
00:40:07| do donuts and like they'll drift around things I've seen people that were really really good at it like better than I can comprehend and to them like the risk is there but they're skilled enough to
00:40:21| avoid it something cents because they know what they're doing they clearly not done the hardest drift job of their life in this eight feet of snow in the north for the first time yes they've done
00:40:32| increments of this for dozens and dozens of dozens of times for dozens of years so it's interesting that like that particular thing and it that's why I'm getting that is that I
00:40:43| can't comprehend the risk involved like I know the consequences but I I trust that the person is skilled enough not to screw it up but so is it as big a risk survivor bias though because if he did
00:40:55| crash his car I'd be like oh he sucks like why like why would I ever trust that person but if he didn't crash his car you'd be like wow he's got something that I don't know about there's some
00:41:06| skill there that is like incomprehensible definitely a skill and to shout out um I don't know why he called my eye but some beat-up crappy Nissan hatchback
00:41:18| type thing that people weigh soup up from the 90s maybe so they are the GTR an influence tutor yeah that's a night that's a nice one but I'm talking like a crappy knockoff
00:41:28| vehicle that's supposed to have it has a spoiler and this was a stick shift I was playing outside with my kid and I just live on a two-way street next to a one-way street nerd stop sign whatever
00:41:40| it says some 4-way intersection but no one ever comes down it the roads were covered in snow because we snowed the other day and for whatever reason I heard his car coming probably because
00:41:47| it's you know one of those crappy like engines that makes a lot of noise and it was stick shift and I was like oh cool and I was like he must be a neighbor or something and he was going a little fast
00:41:56| but I don't know why my I drifted to him and I just watched him and he literally just pulled the handbrake and then cut the cut out of gear and just drifted to turn right and I was like yo that's and
00:42:11| he just all he did was he didn't make it a big deal of it he wasn't showing off for anyone like he didn't even pay attention to me he was like I'm going to drifts to the right and I was like
00:42:19| that's kind of badass like it was stupid and it's something I totally was like I wish I could get in my car and do that right now risk is like what if he hits a stop sign when it hits the curb like his
00:42:30| car so low it's gonna quit if there's someone else coming up his car yeah I mean it's it's a it's a quiet enough neighborhood where you can see everything and there was no one coming I
00:42:40| don't know that he would have done it if someone was coming maybe but it was just wild that he did it and then I paid attention because he was doing it now I was like hold on Dom it shut up for a
00:42:49| minute I gotta watch this guy and he goes my kids like oh let's throw snowballs I'm like I need to see this guy and he went down the next street and
00:42:56| there's another tiny side street and he drifted to the left and went up and I was like he doesn't live anywhere around here he's just friggin too in pain drifts the town you know like this is
00:43:05| kind of cool kind of terrible and he did it around the neighborhood and at some point I heard him leave all the neighborhoods that are connected back here I can get back on the broad street
00:43:14| and hit down the way and I heard his engine and I recognize it sounds like wow he's done screwing around in our neighborhood drifting around he was just doing it to practice drifting to the
00:43:24| left or right and I was like that's so stupid because I looked at the guy he's like a 35 year old dude just in his beat-up Nissan I was like why would he do that and it won't one part of me was
00:43:34| a dad and I was a little mad at him like why would you risk so much and the other part of it was like badass dude I wish I had your car I want to do the exact same thing today and no one was on the road
00:43:45| it was quiet he wasn't like I feel like it was calculated like it's not like he was doing it on a busy street and just pulling that hand breaking going nuts like he was doing it fairly calmly but
00:43:58| for no reason other than to do it and that's risk I love risk I changed my mind I love words sometimes as a dad I go back and forth and I don't want my kid to love
00:44:11| risk I just want me to love risk because that makes sense it does actually I don't I want I want me to love risk I don't want other people to love risk that's dangerous
00:44:22| hey you stop it's because most of the time I guess most injuries like if you're dealing with your own injury and it's not severe like you don't involve other people like if I was severely
00:44:32| disabled and it didn't require the intervention of other people I'd be like I'm okay I am it's okay I can I do it later like my dirt bike ride right oh yeah you're
00:44:45| on like your fence yeah put a hole my leg down with it yourself financially yeah emotionally I'm dealing with it I think there's a couple hospitals looking for payment seven hundred dollar bill
00:44:57| that look at my leg it's fine hey they looked at you then just take a look I kept it's okay it's gross but it'll be fine no look thank you they're like ears though Jeff
00:45:07| Bezos in here where's Jeff than that he's sick get here with like seven hundred dollars in pennies that was I don't know what that risk was worth other than idiocy they proved as ATC I
00:45:21| would do it again everyone's like well now you've learned your lesson never gonna touch a dirt bag again I'm like I can't wait to do it again maybe because I'm an idiot
00:45:31| so but I know the risk so maybe I'm not an idiot now why did you why did that happen though like it seems like when you described it it seems like wow he doesn't know how to drift down the
00:45:41| street why did he get on a bike and try to drive it try to ride it I don't like you know was it gas versus brake or something you know which one is which it's just weird cuz your hands control
00:45:54| the things and the gears and I was told to keep it in first and well here's the problem everyone who doesn't know the story I went around I went around his bumpy ass stupid ass yard once and I did
00:46:06| it okay I went very slow but like I went around the whole yard and I was like this is this is cool like riding a dirt bike badass like and I driven stick shift before I know how to change gears
00:46:16| I get all that so I decided to go around again because it was cool because it felt awesome because it was fun and it's just the second time around I got too close to the fence and I couldn't
00:46:27| remember I was like up against his fence and I was like if I don't well if I don't stop I'm gonna ruin his fence like I'm [ __ ] so I held down both which is the gas and the clutch and when you do
00:46:38| that it's revving the engine but you stop because the motors disengaged so I literally was stopped and I was like I'm fine and as you let go of both at the exact
00:46:48| same time it just kicks into gear and shoots up and at that point I grabbed it because I thought it was going to go into magazine road and hit a car and I was gonna like kill someone but
00:46:57| apparently a dirt bike that looks like it weighs 40 pounds weighs like it weighs a lot so it just picked me up into the air and slam me back down on it and impaled my leg
00:47:08| and I did go through his fence turns out the fence just picks back up and walks back in it was no big deal for my leg cuz no doesn't just no can't seem to get back up and put it back in new but it
00:47:21| was that one was a failure will say cuz it cost me thousands of dollars ish hundreds of dollars plus so like just into the thousands and I didn't get to go around the yard more than once and a
00:47:34| half and yeah everyone told me how much of an idiot I was but it was worth it do you know what's worth it just doing new [ __ ] doing weird [ __ ] doing [ __ ] that you can't it you have Bill right doing
00:47:48| if I didn't do it when was I gonna try a dirt bike are you gonna try a dirt bike anytime soon that is one of the things that my cousin's I've quads and I distinctly remember them like gunning it
00:48:01| in the back of a like a field to an open field lots of like dead brush and grass and stuff yeah and like they would slide like kind of drifting and they'd let it like rock on like two wheels okay and
00:48:17| it's like I'm not in control I don't know it's not hard that you can adjust you can always redirect yourself and level off but with them it's like if I if it rolls and I get killed by it I can
00:48:30| be yeah I can seriously be freaked you would never do that with a rocking in two wheels and all that crap until you get comfortable with something if you don't do wild [ __ ] until you you know
00:48:40| boundaries you feel a nasty little you've added 100 percent yeah and that's why I'm the only way to get better at something like that physical pushing the body or bike exactly you have to risk to
00:48:56| get better at something don't you I think you do even something as stupid as drums like it sounds like a stupid risk but if you're playing a beat and 4/4 and you're like hey can I do this you have
00:49:07| to take a risk to do something that sounds stupid you have to take a risk to do something your body's not used to its offbeat you have to it's a risk you have to do something you've never done so
00:49:18| most of the time you fail but when it's the drums it's not a big deal yeah that's what I'd say well I don't know it depends on who you are because when I was younger I was afraid of like
00:49:27| speak my voice and having people here what I'm creating so playing drums like everyone can hear it so well I'm talking about in my house alone but no no I would practice that but I see resented
00:49:38| God but like people in my house even like my mom and dad I didn't want them to hear like me trying to create some screw up yeah well you make a dumb sound or like start a bee and then go off
00:49:48| pattern or sound nasty or something yeah and a lot of that is I don't like when do you think when the biggest drummers in the world they started do you think they they were I screwed up a lot oh my
00:50:01| god probably it's like any instrument think about it you screw up all the time like failure probably happens there's a stupid old sales cliches that are like failure is 99% of success or they make
00:50:15| up really dumb sayings but they're a little bit true and that you can't you can't know what to look for in failing until you do it and then you'll know what failure isn't how to avoid it like
00:50:27| you can't you can avoid failure if you've never failed do you know what I mean yeah so let me bring in the food I got mmm it's like that that trading bot that I'm working on I've had that ever
00:50:39| since like I was like in my 20s but it's like the fifth iteration so like there's no possible way that I could have done it right straight from the start in a straight line
00:50:51| I had to deer find dead ends go back and fail so many times and all of the people that start businesses like their retrospect is almost never oh I tried this and failed try that and failed like
00:51:05| they don't remember I don't think anything that I did ten years ago and remember accurately you also don't remember the failures as strongly if they're personal
00:51:15| what do you mean like I tried this it didn't work so I tweaked it and I remember this like you don't always remember what you tried it didn't work you just remember you fixed it yeah you
00:51:24| spent a lot of time fixing things you remember the end result because it's an easy piece of information remember you also are currently working on it like good on me
00:51:33| if you're currently working on your body whatever you remember what got you here so you remember some of the failures most of the successes because they're still building the code it's kind of
00:51:43| like how life is you remember most of your successes a few of your failures I don't know when you keep building towards more mm-hmm yeah risk risk baby you like the board oh yeah I never
00:52:04| played it I like the computer I don't like versions where you have to like physically movies and yeah move my hands what no hands
00:52:14| disgusting monopoly with real money oh gosh disgusting take it I can imagine did you cheat at monopoly who doesn't that's I don't who cares I want it to be over I'm like this I'm like oh no the
00:52:37| bank got my money are we done someone's like it's been five minutes Nikki keep playing it's be your mother I'm like god dammit you still have more money and I'm like
00:52:47| uh I reversed you oh my god the bank took all my money Nikki you gave too much money I'm like I wish this would be over like my life mom she's like you're 13 stop in that
00:53:01| instance what would you do otherwise we would go like you'd be hoping you can go play like Donkey Kong Country or something yeah anything elegant like just general ah I told you minimal good
00:53:13| one crash bandicoot song also like my son wants to buy a spyro game and I was like what hmm Tyra the drooling helps a cool game you know he showed me the game and I was
00:53:25| like Spyro he's like yeah dad how'd you know I was like yeah like the way he said it like I knew the character's name is crash bandicoot they're in the same game you know boy he's like yeah and he
00:53:37| does this and you can jump on things like I know I know relax I'm well aware I don't know can't wait you'll get there hmm I think that covers it
00:53:51| I think we've yeah we're good well let's let's end it what some risk is good I think it is actually is stupidity is bad no but she is going outside your comfort zone I think it really it hearkens on
00:54:12| the people that just are completely oblivious it's kind of ignorance is a piece that we didn't really cover like when people so like I'm overly cautious I think about almost everything and I
00:54:24| calculated almost research already late and like the people that just like blindly go and then they like ride right through it I'm like I'm like but you didn't think about this that or that
00:54:35| it's like maybe you made it maybe you didn't but pure luck I don't here's what's gonna cook your [ __ ] noodle okay you don't get any of that time back the time spent researching and making it
00:54:50| right and tweaking it and yeah preparing calculating it now you can come back and say you come back you don't get any of your time back for anything in your diet so I get it that's a real good retort a
00:55:00| good time back for anything but I mean we are what we spend time doing so we should mitigate risk we should really think about what we do and not ride dirt bikes when you're like 35 ish cuz maybe
00:55:15| have a kid and maybe you could crash it and bust up your leg but also maybe just [ __ ] do it I don't know I don't know the answer I don't think anyone does interesting and that's kind of what
00:55:29| makes us human a little bit of risk baby and I don't mean the board game because Dan doesn't play board games and not anymore not since computers were invented Oh 1981 so we discuss risk we
00:55:45| talked about what's dangerous what's crazy what's calculated what's worth it I'm gonna sleep with who does sleeveless that's a risk you never know what you're gonna find
00:56:01| mm-hmm we talked about kilowatts that this podcast uses and how much it costs to power an episode and whether or not and oh that one Amy 20 cents cuz both of us whether or not we owe that money to
00:56:14| someone we live with that's R is the risk yeah it's a risk baby and whether you bring this exact sentence up to them later who knows might be a terrible idea but she's saving you do it anyway Pico I
00:56:26| paid over the Biko Biko power play she comes with a hockey sticks and just reach your ass with it that's a risk mm-hmm I think we talked about all the risks
00:56:40| yeah well I'm like yeah we like you you even if you're serial killers you're all right people you're nazis you're weirdos you're perverts you do all sorts of crazy stuff
00:56:54| I don't know that we're gonna promote yet we like you for listening baby oh but anyway we like it we like you a lot check out them sotius check out our
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