Transcript of Episode 152 - Midlife Crisis
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00:00:07| we spend most of our lives trying to replicate the success of other people somewhere along the line we realize that the exact copy of whatever they did
00:00:16| doesn't bring us happiness and all the pieces that built you they're falling apart how do you put them back together what do you make out of those pieces
00:00:28| you got to make something new because the old thing it just doesn't add up anymore so i'm dan and i'm nick folks we're old friends dissecting one topic at a time
00:00:46| people technology media we've got it all covered each discussion here is a deep dive into our unique perspective taboo forbidden subjects
00:00:57| they're all on the chopping block baby we don't pander to popular opinion we might even get a little bit dirty warning dangerous this podcast may contain mature language and sexual
00:01:07| content and it's for infotainment purposes only so join us have a good time open up your ear holes because we're going to fondle your
00:01:16| [Music] follicles [Music] there we go wow incredible wow i like that intro because i didn't think
00:01:38| about anything but the intro i was in the moment i was grasping it feeling it wow coursing three to pulsing through you maybe even well i'm nick folks
00:01:49| i'm dan this is just another friggin episode of the unpanderers uh welcome we enjoy you thoroughly we enjoy you maybe thoroughly maybe just like
00:02:03| averagely i hope you enjoy myself you enjoy myself so this episode is a hodgepodge a mix of two things one a well prepped episode that you're
00:02:18| going to be ready for clean clear cut direct yes meandering nonsense not at all no not straight to it so two things uh
00:02:33| two things yeah mid-life crisis yeah or crises as it's referred to as and replication which has a lot of implications so i guess where does this begin
00:02:50| we talk about well let's talk about life crises yeah let's start with that when do they usually happen like 35 to somewhere in there we uh had an episode on this
00:03:00| and i think we did it about two years ago we did and it's kind of strange because we didn't we weren't i don't think we were there yet mid-life
00:03:09| prices no now or there we are boom here we are we have them boom holy crap people are doing crazy stuff now yeah i think there's a few things that make it a midlife crisis is that i'm
00:03:22| going to start with number one and i don't know how many numbers there are but we're going to keep going a yeah you replicate yourself is it's our number one
00:03:32| hey number one a roman numeral um good so you replicate yourself i think kids you make a copy of yourself with
00:03:45| somebody else who also makes a copy of themselves and you battle to make the better copy of oneself constantly sounds like terminator i
00:03:53| don't 100 agree with it but i i can see where you're going with it a little bit okay you try to come trying to yeah their physical body their mentality
00:04:01| their education they gotta have the way they did their career type lesson okay carrier career you're trying to you're trying to be them
00:04:12| you're trying to give them what you remember as childhood even though that's incredibly flawed like you're doing that to your kid you tried to give your kid the opportunities
00:04:22| that you had what's that oh i'm sorry i missed the kid part so it is it's literally you're giving your child your childhood yep okay which is flawed oh terribly yeah
00:04:34| all right terrible it was actually a terrible upbringing in fact by recreating it you're creating a terrible upbringing so you're recreating everything yeah yeah well give them the
00:04:43| memories going to the beach doing this packing up for to go to the camper which by the way as a kid you hated and now as an adult you're trying to
00:04:50| recreate it for the kid and you're like i hated this when i was a kid but we're gonna dang right we're going to do it and you you pack up the vehicle and you force
00:04:59| everyone to do sort of it's uh 22. it's a catch-22 because you didn't enjoy it as a kid you thought it felt forced you did not enjoy it the memories of it
00:05:11| were they're interesting because it was different than the norm so we'll give it that points there right it's doing something
00:05:18| different yes it's tradition so that's like an extra point and it was awful and you hated it and it was inconvenient so as an adult you're like ah i would
00:05:27| never do that to my kid except that's what i'm gonna do i'm gonna do tradition and we're gonna make it awful and i'm gonna pack the car and i'm gonna hate it
00:05:35| and i'm not really know what i'm doing but my family did it and darn tootin we're gonna do it too is that irony yeah i think that's irony because like
00:05:45| you were swore against it you would never do it you hate it and then here you are 20 years later you're doing it anyway just doing it again being like damn it
00:05:53| we have to do this so what things from your childhood are you trying to replicate with your child are you we do a lot of vacations we do beach trips and stuff like that and we
00:06:04| load the vehicle up and we have so many goddamn beach toys and we put so many goddamn beach toys on a beach cart that i have to wheel to the beach and i
00:06:13| hate it it's like literally it's oh it's hell on earth i don't like the dunes and like the angle if 30 30 degree incline makes you realize that your muscles
00:06:21| aren't what they were you're withering away my muscles are what they but it doesn't matter it's still a lot of work for what this is the kicker
00:06:30| i put all the stuff in the car it took a long time to find it i don't know why we still have in the garage it takes up space i want to get rid of it oh we keep it for beach trips i get it i
00:06:40| put it in the vehicle and stack it for the beach trip it has to be stacked a certain way so sand doesn't everything then when it gets there we have to
00:06:46| unpack it into the beach house i have to put it somewhere it has to come out of the vehicle then when we go to the beach it has to be loaded onto the beach caddy and we
00:06:54| have to bring it to the beach then i walk it to the beach and i have to trek it i have to push it i have to pull it i have to move it over dry sand wet sand over
00:07:02| the humps over the curbs everything and then when we get to the beach no one will freaking play with it what they do it's like five minutes yeah and i'm like why the hell
00:07:12| does that even matter to them is that i think you get to this yeah exactly you get to the stage where um i i personally saw that like my wife she tries to set up all of these
00:07:24| things that are like supposed to happen in a certain way and that child just blows right by it and she's like oh yeah splash through sand in your face eat
00:07:32| this and it's like yeah it's like none of this like the true nature of enjoyment is just let the kid go let him run like be be you can't
00:07:42| into the woods enjoyment particularly no i think it's a flawed model to plan enjoyment especially the way that children see the world like we got uh
00:07:52| macaroons today and like they don't know what they are they said whoa tiny chocolate cheeseburgers this is great and it's just like you're right that's
00:08:02| what these things are just i accept it yeah go for it please go for it but it's just bizarre looks like everything that they do is just like
00:08:10| oh i guess you're kind of right like if you didn't have any like preparedness you didn't know what things were yeah in your mind that's a chocolate
00:08:19| cheeseburger 100 but sometimes you're wrong they're like ah i don't want to do that you're like no this is a fun game i played it with my parents before them
00:08:27| for years and generations and everyone played parteezy it's a great game and they're like i don't want to play and you're like you have to play to have
00:08:35| fun and like it's become a forced position because it's like if you don't play you won't have fun like you're like forcing fun to happen i don't know so
00:08:46| the other thing is you run out of time i'm gonna just hit all the things i think are midlife crises oh god is that you have kids you run out of time you try to make other people happy
00:08:56| no one else tries to make you happy it starts to fade your importance a lot of people are trying no no not a lot of people trying to make the dads around the world happy
00:09:05| yeah if you are shout out no one's ever lived you're a fan of the daddies how are you today nick you feel okay you're looking a little down can i rub your feet
00:09:18| yeah actually yeah let's put my feet up let's if a man came onto me and said i want to give you massages all day long and be like
00:09:33| all right you know that sounds good what's what's the catch what's the catch i make smoothies and i'd be like ah give me a hug now i like it are you mormon come on let me
00:09:47| know in the comments so people stop caring about you and the weird part about us is like your kids only care about the attention you give them
00:09:59| your wife certainly cares about the attention you give her and your parents don't [ __ ] about you anymore because you're all grown up
00:10:06| really you kind of do like my parents still can't care about me yeah i just saw them like the past two days so i mean they were nice to me that's nice nick now they didn't i mean
00:10:16| what did they do for me i uh well they did supply some dinner we had a birthday party for my dad so it was cool he is not at a midlife crisis i think
00:10:25| he's settled down finally at 60. shout out my father good job good so he's not going to make it to 120 is that what you're saying
00:10:36| he might he might technology stash will live on just might anyway go ahead people stop caring about you in general 100 and then you stop caring about yourself
00:10:51| no you don't you don't feel like you stopped caring about well like progression like what what do you think well oh no i don't have a plan for myself or anything
00:11:00| like that so you stop caring no i mean i like i groom and i um i brush my teeth and i work out that's about it
00:11:08| you still got six-pack abs i kind of do yeah kinda it's not an answer well so there's different kind of six packs and i didn't want to get into this in this episode
00:11:17| there's there's congruent six packs where it's like a perfect six and then there's incongruent and i have like a little irregular six-pack
00:11:25| is that even possible no it's not actually your muscle groups actually form that way and it might have to do with uh your diet and something to do with your body and i don't know
00:11:34| have the article seem very interesting video games how many days you've played video games done congratulations incongruence and just
00:11:49| another day of video games and i'll straighten them out so i will say there's some things i care about myself but for the most part nah it's just like man yeah your life goals
00:11:58| you realize that oh life goals no good lord i don't have any of those five year plan suicide memes are like my favorite mexico it's like i wish i was dead with like a
00:12:09| hang ten symbol or like whatever and you're like ah let's like that one i think that's that's my go-to yeah the other thing i read the other day is
00:12:18| that someone was like graduating college and they like their whole life was built towards being an engineer and working for nasa and like doing these crazy things and as
00:12:28| an intern they succeeded in all of that and they said well what do i do now before they even graduated college peaked
00:12:36| and they said i'll just really sell my my time for money and then i'll be free i was like wow this is what you do yeah it's pretty much true at some point you just have done something so long that
00:12:48| you're just like well i guess i should do it more this is the way it goes i suppose it is it is it is i suppose hmm so what's next
00:13:05| it starts to dwindle not necessarily the amount but it's like the satisfaction you get from it that's fair i believe you you're like i believe you you know
00:13:16| you know the positions the other person likes and like deviating from the same person though you gotta i guess you gotta mix it up do you become alive again when you have another
00:13:27| uh interest i don't oh my god i don't know that would be an interesting test that someone should have to run yeah but i find that like even if i'm
00:13:36| having lots of sex it's like it's not like i'm 16 again and like i've never seen a vagina before in person well i mean i've never seen a vagina again in person
00:13:51| irl in real life as an irl vagina yeah asl baby i guess i mean that's that ties into realistically no matter who you are and
00:14:03| your sex drive it will slowly start to diminish as the older you get we obviously know this no one has the sex drive as when they were
00:14:14| you know it's just physics might still be able to perform pretty well and do your thing but like eventually it will slow down my marks are pretty high
00:14:25| on the ceiling on my report card okay cool i thought you're going with the stains on your ceiling oh it's like these are pretty high yeah that's the joke
00:14:36| yeah you got it it's pretty good there you go semen semen that's for the other danes of the audience you may need to know
00:14:47| maybe a little hint or two see page 42. um so what else goes what else is disappointing that other people are better than things what about this one
00:14:58| what you didn't mention is like you didn't you didn't do a thing yeah you didn't do a thing you can never go back and more regrets build up and if you have good memory it just
00:15:08| piles on so people with better memories are worse midlife crises crises oh my god i remember all the things i didn't
00:15:18| do yeah all the bad things there's a lot of them all the times i came onto a woman and i said the wrong thing oh that's awkward hey
00:15:29| nice to see you oh no [Music] i have to leave this now the uh i always go with more like what you didn't do
00:15:40| like you didn't decide to become a motorcycle guy everyone could you could right yeah you didn't get into billiards really bad um you didn't start smoking cigars and
00:15:48| drinking scotch you never did like some people did 30. you just drank regular beers maybe you didn't get into i don't know what else do people do like
00:15:58| you never did sports cars like you were like i never got into cars and i never really had the money and i didn't do it it wasn't my thing oh yeah there you go sports ah that's a
00:16:10| big one people never got into it i could see it in all my like other friends even like high school friends that didn't play team sports because in college you can't
00:16:19| really like if you're not really good at it incorrect yes you can i signed up for men's league ice hockey and that was my first ice hockey experience
00:16:27| it's your first your first ice logging experience but that was like but that's not a true competitive outlet like it is oh no no
00:16:36| that's the most competitive thing i've ever seen in my life there's people cutting each other's throat at age 38 and 40 because of what we're talking about today technically
00:16:46| those those exact people were referring the ones who missed their their choices did you he didn't play any did you play sports in high school uh i know i got caught from the crew
00:16:57| team practice and i wanted to play ice hockey but like i didn't have ice skates and my parents never were gonna get me so no oh that's so sad nick so i played
00:17:06| them in college which you can do but you're not going to play on any varsity team you're going to play on the men's league c i feel like that's
00:17:15| that's a missed opportunity though and it is but yeah but i wasn't athletic until like high school college age more seventh graders need more sorrow
00:17:24| midlife crisis i'll get that english oh trust me show me the anguish nick goddard i wish i had like i'm not saying i i'm
00:17:38| glad i didn't like who's the douchebag who says like i'm glad i didn't play high school sports i played him in college like no i totally would have loved to freaking play high school
00:17:46| sports but like i don't know if it's because my parents were like had two other kids and we didn't have a lot of money or because i was also awful at sports like you combine
00:17:53| the two and it's like yeah we're not wasting our money kid you know what i mean yeah i don't regret it i mean i wish they had because that would have
00:18:03| opened new opportunities for me interesting yeah there is i could play for your freaking dad oops yeah this is a good coach coach that's the surprising thing is that they
00:18:14| had four ice hockey teams and they added a fifth so that all the rejects could play hold on hold on there's v1 v2 jva jvb they hit another one
00:18:23| jvc they had jvc at our high school yeah so you're on c you see yeah you could have made c you could have played i couldn't even see
00:18:35| who else is on c give me some names without last names uh martin oh i did i love martin i would love to play with martin g oh my god what's uh mcgill
00:18:47| mcgill yeah i would have i would have played with miguel oh dude and then uh um pincher jordan oh jordan was that bad i thought he was good
00:18:58| he had a good shot but he couldn't move okay what about um what about something like that who pincher he i think he was higher okay that's
00:19:08| fine how about aj aj no yeah yeah well i think yeah he is c reynolds that's hilarious what are you going to tell the story about how it's like yeah you ever you ever
00:19:20| suck dick for coke no he uh made out with a man money and weed it was money too wow that's okay he got like 50 bucks and he got like a baggie of weed
00:19:29| and he was like he was like yeah i'll do it i'm like at the prom or he regrets it no not at all you know what happened to him i mean he got what he wanted right
00:19:39| like what what's the no skin off his back yeah but there was it was a motley crew so it's unique experience and then the focus yeah there's a drive
00:19:51| there that i feel like an outlet for all the aggression you have when you're a kid it helps actually body checking somebody legally and then laughing at them as
00:20:01| they smack the ice that's really really good can't do that in the corporate job you can but there are different consequences i feel like
00:20:16| anyway move on what else what else makes up this list i feel like the like what did i cover already is that you lose your time you don't have anybody
00:20:26| caring about you no one cares about you you missed out on opportunities to do reports things whatever you like regrets sure your drive is fading you haven't met your
00:20:34| goals yeah sure i would agree with that and other people are better than you there's just people out there that spent their time honing their skills at
00:20:42| certain things and you're just like that's depressing thank you two things that i should have thought of and you're like huh damn you're a loser but damn you damn you the
00:20:54| other thing is that i don't know that the end goal is that valuable like for like retirement purposes like being free and not having like or having
00:21:02| a boatload of money not having any unnecessary like requirements on you i don't know if that's happiness either i see a whole bunch of celebrities that just don't
00:21:12| like they're aimless and they wander and it's just like what like you have millions of dollars like what do something else and they're just like i don't know what to do
00:21:20| interesting interestingly enough the happiest thing in my life is that i'm in junior sales at my job make dirt money and i hang out with like
00:21:31| a 23 year old and a 27 year old and like we all make dirt money and we all get [ __ ] on and we're all really bad in the company and we all get like [ __ ] jobs
00:21:42| and all we do is stick around and cheat chat each other and [ __ ] tell inside jokes and [Music] and we're like kind of like low lights
00:21:51| like we're not striving to be the best we can at the company like you know what i mean slaggers yeah but we have inside jokes we we've
00:21:59| dick around like that's that's the most fun thing i have in my life right now and it's ironic that it's literally the opposite of making good money and being successful but that's the
00:22:10| other thing is like being successful really means that you take on a lot of stress and do more work than you should because you're responsible you're also
00:22:19| isolated yeah there's a camaraderie in the being a working class schmuck yes like being one of the yeomen being
00:22:27| a nobody in a way i find this also but i have people working under me because i'm a manager technically i guess or not technically i just wrote you are that you just are i guess
00:22:39| i'm a manager and it's weird because like some of the people under me don't have any drive and i have to like have these like weird gimmicks i feel like
00:22:48| [ __ ] have these weird gimmicks to get them to do their job and it's like if it was me i would like i would just go out and do the job and like figure out the best way to do
00:22:58| it but that's not how everyone works like i guess i'm type a and i never knew it but like these people are not type a
00:23:06| most of them and they just kind of like will do the bare minimum overall what are they getting paid not my basic people that get paid like 20 bucks
00:23:15| an hour so like do you think it also has to do with their pay period like do you mean what if you're like yo if you get the job done better and
00:23:22| faster we'll pay like one point five times as much do you think that would help them i thought about it i thought about this on a walk today
00:23:29| where i was i made 16 an hour when i was in college in an internship and i did lots of crazy [ __ ] to try to like prove this like theory right
00:23:39| and i don't know that the money matters when you're because like the people were paying 20 bucks they're young they're like college age so it's like
00:23:48| it's like the drive is either there or not that's the other thing it's like classifying people sure there are certain people right you will find that certain people
00:23:54| have drive certain ones don't and it's weird to like be a manager and then understand that like you can't just expect people to do it if you ask them you have to actually like
00:24:06| set goals and then track them and then also like set these like milestones like these weird milestones that don't matter so you're constantly like making up this
00:24:16| fake like scheme so that they'll work harder and then you realize that you've become a manager and you're the [ __ ] like you're the [ __ ] marching people
00:24:25| forward for no reason at all yeah so yeah that's it the glory of it doesn't really add up to what it actually is and i think at this age you realize that that
00:24:35| happens enough that you're like i don't know that anything will really make me happy that is supposed to be like the penultimate thing
00:24:44| sure the um is there anything else that kind of sums up what we're talking about before we talk about it itself any other ingredients that go into like kind of like a
00:24:58| midlife thing i guess there has to be a plateauing right yeah your life doesn't go up anymore you're not making your relationship making your
00:25:07| interactions are going down like you're not you're not increasing in all these things you're kind of hey this is where you're at dude this is where you're at buddy you're not meeting
00:25:16| x amount of new people you're not doing x amount of new relationship stuff you're not finding out who you are you're not expanding growing no
00:25:23| you're not i mean you are who you are at this point you're not like uh man i have so much potential to be anything nah you're probably one of three things
00:25:35| like you know what i mean yeah we got you a pretty big yeah yeah for me the milestones have already passed so like new car new house
00:25:46| getting married having kids like what's yeah those are all pretty big ones i mean what after this or retiring i don't know that there are big ones last killing a friend
00:25:57| killing a friend no one's ever killed a friend there's somebody behind him in the closet he's just coming in there and his stats
00:26:13| for me yes i could buy a house here absolutely i could get married you're right i could i actually also feel like i've experienced those things without
00:26:20| experiencing them i'm like i'm over it interesting i don't ask me why or how but that's how i feel about them i'm like yeah i feel like i've done them sort of in
00:26:31| theory i've gone to like probably 50 plus weddings at this point in my life it's a lot of weddings you know what it's about yeah
00:26:40| i've been in wedding parties i've been a total outsider i've gone to weddings of some of my best friends did you get married anyway i've given speeches at weddings
00:26:48| you know i mean like i've been a part of them and i really think it'll be cool to get married but i'm not there in my life and i also don't think it's like a
00:26:58| milestone where i have to get because i think some people will never get married and that's okay for them so what this is going to transition the
00:27:06| discussion sure what are you going to what are you modeling your life after are you like looking forward and saying i want to be that do you have a
00:27:13| role model or no no i'm literally just surviving week to week i'm like oh my god i made it oh my god i made it another week oh my god i made it another week
00:27:22| and so i actually don't feel like uh like i think i'm avoiding this mid-life crisis if that makes sense so does every week feel the same then
00:27:32| um they all have their own adventures and their own ups and downs and i feel like sometimes they're very repetitive and i'm like you've done this before you forgot about
00:27:42| your car insurance and now it's due and i'm like okay i think i got it use your credit card and then i'm like okay well groceries usually you get them on
00:27:54| this week pretend you didn't know and have someone else in the house get them and you know what i mean you gotta like be sneaky about it be like oh i thought it was
00:28:02| you're weak i'm so sorry you got this thanks i'm just you know you're good and then like also there's a little oh yeah a little bit dude i mean otherwise if you're not a mooch yeah
00:28:14| because if you're not a mooch then in six months or three months when you can't pay another bill you're gonna be a mooch then we'll tell the difference like you're doing it in
00:28:23| moochiness yes spread it out try and limit the damage uh but then there's also things like um how much bass you're playing how much
00:28:31| drums i played drums for like 40 minutes the other day felt really good i was like really getting in the groove like because
00:28:38| that's another thing you didn't talk about is your hobbies the things you used to do for joy you don't have time for all the time how much video games you play do you
00:28:47| play your bass uh are you playing guitar you uh getting out there fishing whenever you really get into it are you destroying all the stuff you have going on
00:28:56| no i'd have actually gotten into drums i well i would have been way more into drums and love drums and been a drummer as it is i'm a mild drama enthusiast but i played for 40 minutes the other
00:29:10| day and i got some some tight grooves and i actually i grew in drums for the first time in maybe a year two years like if you do an
00:29:20| activity enough whether it's drumming or whittling or [ __ ] cutting your dog's hair or whatever you're into if you do it enough you can actually feel yourself
00:29:28| grow get better at it you like get tired physically by it and you're like i did it so much today and i got so good at it and i think that's the thing that we
00:29:37| stop doing as you reach a certain age realizations are epiphanies they disappear i do love a good epiphany i can't remember the last time i had one
00:29:49| don't you have them on the nightly when you recorded an unpanderer's episode no moving on someone shifts the topic to replication yeah go ahead
00:30:03| so those are midlife crises and we all get there we all buy a harley we all get back into a hobby and do some weird [ __ ] we join a gang yeah we mimic i think our mimic almost
00:30:16| yeah replicate which uh i think mimic was a movie right it was a 1990s or species it was species they called her a mimic that's what it was yes she was copying herself
00:30:29| uncanny valley oh that's um what's the high school movie was that species no oh you're talking about the faculty yeah i love that one mm-hmm
00:30:40| it is most interesting when it's they use like human beings you got the thing yeah same idea yeah where it's like your most dangerous i'm real david
00:30:50| i'm real he's most famous mine two daughters what are their names i'm i'm real i'm real i'm real i think i couldn't even make up
00:31:01| two names anyway vanilla skyrocket i feel like you like you set the post and it's a post that's based in reality it's based in somebody
00:31:12| else's doing and i feel like the like the way your life goes in the very beginning is how your parents try to make you be and like you you're going to your
00:31:23| kids um i'm getting there i'm getting there okay guys jumping ahead so they try to make you a certain way
00:31:30| in their own image or whatever you want to call it and you might rebel or not and i've seen this in a lot of people is that they accept what they're given and they
00:31:39| ride that until it shatters i see people that like when they got to college and they were like straight laced they didn't realize that the world they lived in was a bubble and that
00:31:49| thing elders yeah was the uh rum salta i don't know idea what that means is that the amish thing where the amish can go away for like a year or two and
00:31:58| they have to come back yeah that's same idea i think it's called rum spelt rumsfelt i'm really bad at words so yeah search amish what do you call it you're off
00:32:07| yeah sure uh rum springer ah my bad rump springer brother yeah yeah they literally i have relatives that live in amish country and
00:32:19| they said that there would people be people like wearing the amish garb and like young teenagers they'd go to like a mall or something they literally would like unzip this
00:32:30| like amish garb and like have regular clothes on and then you like experience life like a normal person whatever normal is right to find normal but that's fine not
00:32:40| here to argue about that but could you if you were in that situation and you saw a life that was obviously better could you
00:32:48| take that life and say i'm never going to see my parents again i don't know i couldn't do it i mean maybe some people could even like the way we we were raised were
00:32:59| somewhat independent and capable of being independent i don't know that an amish person is capable of being independent and then breaking the network that they
00:33:08| they built around them or the network they were given rather well that's the whole idea is that even if they enjoy independence and they like the other life
00:33:18| they don't know anyone in that life and they have no support system and they don't have a job they don't have a house they don't have anyone there so for them to embrace that fully
00:33:27| they have to they have to make the biggest leap of all which by the way i don't even think i could do what you do and move
00:33:35| cross-country for a job or anything like i'm philadelphia area bound and i i don't think i could leave the area that's that's a big jump for me so to do
00:33:47| the next level leave geographically family wise like leave everything that you've been raised to do i don't think i could do it but that's me personally there are people i guess
00:33:58| who could i don't know yeah well i think i made the decision going to college you did go yeah i went six yeah i was gonna go
00:34:07| maybe to penn state because i was in pennsylvania and i had a lot of friends going there it just kind of felt kind of same-ish easy i have a thing where i just i can't do the same thing
00:34:17| as most people i have to be uh contrarian in some way sounds like enough too much work but then i saw i picked a college that was six
00:34:28| hours away from my home and i just like lived independently there and i guess it was not that hard so i figured
00:34:36| we'll just go now plus the jobs in the philadelphia area were really crappy right around 2008 or nine and uh i thought about this today too is that
00:34:48| there was a job with lutron the they make light switches like yeah in philadelphia that's weird i deal with that in wiring cable world yeah
00:34:57| well i interviewed with them for like a full day and i was like is this really what i want to be like i could i don't know how much they would offer people to make light switches you
00:35:06| make a better like balance make a better lights oh alrighty lordy lordy like do i really does this really like does it feel impressive to other
00:35:17| like it's not a status thing and it's not even i guess there are people out there that are like oh my god did you see that model b number 008 like that light
00:35:25| switch was fast you're saying that about the light switch they're getting off on it they're like oh my god did you see that light switch wow they got new technology yeah so i
00:35:37| could have done i could have done that i could have moved back it was not that far from you and i don't know i guess the enthusiasm was not there so they were like
00:35:46| we don't but they never gave me an offer but i don't think that i would have enjoyed it i don't like it it was not alluring it did not appeal to me
00:35:54| so i picked a job that was still far away and then that job sucked so i was like i gotta get out and then i took the first thing that looked like it was
00:36:02| appealing and then i moved really far away is that was that your mid-life prices no that was like 23. i know like could it have been your
00:36:14| midlife crisis doesn't mean it's really the middle of your life i think it means it's your big change your big switch your big i'm taking control of my life because
00:36:22| it's been going in x y and z and i want to change it yeah well you probably have two or three in the lifetime that job was so bad that i signed up for online tutoring
00:36:32| to teach other people while i was working and tried to get a scam out of that i remember it was not a scam i was going to actually
00:36:39| you wanted me to be a professor and sign off that i was i'm pretty sure at some point what are you going to teach english you told me it was your idea you
00:36:50| approached me if i would tutor maybe that sounds like me i kind of believe you okay just a little bit i want you to kind of believe me no i don't think you
00:36:58| went so far as to actually do it i'm just saying you're kicking around some ideas but anyway you were you were you're going into the wild west you're
00:37:06| doing some new [ __ ] you you're getting crazy you're you wanted to find you i guess that's which i think you did that is that is a midlife crisis i don't
00:37:13| care if it's at 23 or whatever the hell it is you probably have them five times in your life it's where your dna everything you've built up
00:37:23| everything you're working towards you don't want to do it anymore you don't want to keep going in that direction and there's no easy way to gently pull
00:37:32| away from these things you have to do it hard and you have to do it not fast but abruptly and you have to do it strong willed in a different direction you have to have a new
00:37:42| focus yeah two or three times decide on a job offer that changes your life forever yeah and you have to literally decide on it and not be
00:37:52| wishy-way you just have to be like yep i'm doing this one i'm doing x or i'm doing y and i'm doing y and this is y i'm doing x and this is y what are you doing why
00:38:00| no i said x doing y why are you doing x uh i see we're doing a three stooges bit yeah so you could be due for another one dude i think some people have more than
00:38:14| others i'm not even saying you will yeah i don't know i do look at like my cousins who have never left the bubble and i guess they don't want to or i i just don't i can't understand not
00:38:27| having drive i see like i understand why you were staying where you're at because you you're situated sure but they're younger they don't have kids
00:38:38| they have the opportunity to leave some place that is way less exciting than when where you are and you may not consider your location exciting but i've seen very
00:38:47| boring locations and where they live is not it's not you couldn't yeah yeah yeah just couldn't do it like it's like living in the
00:38:56| like my suburbs my suburbs your suburbs i feel like your suburbs have a little more life to them yeah i could see that yours is more stagnant more status quo
00:39:05| what happens already happens it's kind of like a repetitive story a mimicking as you were if you were to keep on pace with mimic because you wanted to this episode about
00:39:14| mimic yeah ah levittown nice drop yeah um take attack houses outside there's there's a strip town in levittown we won't mention names but they're
00:39:26| daytime peaches workers no not no not that one they're daytime workers very corpulent women very beautiful scorpion
00:39:39| is scorpion even are you trying to like vivacious um just thick thick everywhere and shout out to them you look at the definition of corpulent while we're on
00:39:52| this it is fat that's surprising okay cool i didn't want to i want to say fat so yeah pump no but everyone chubby yeah there you go okay
00:40:03| thank you that's perfect you didn't have to demean them i was trying to give them powerhouse word here regardless powerful power key they were what i'm getting at is that at any time
00:40:17| you technically could decide to do anything different you could change your life you can go do anything you can go anywhere you can pick up your [ __ ] and move anywhere
00:40:25| it's freedom baby it's freedom but hassle-wise [Laughter] it's almost never worth it yeah isn't that funny
00:40:38| which is interesting so if your life is [ __ ] or your life is so boring or your life is so a b c d every day you technically could
00:40:48| decide to pick up move it change it drastically go in a different direction i'm a harley guy now okay dad um you're call me roger and you're like that's
00:40:59| your middle name and no one's ever called you roger in your entire life and he's like yeah well i'm roger now and he buys a helmet and a harley
00:41:07| and he gets a freaking harley jacket and he's into harley's and he starts hanging out with guys who have harley's and you're like how do you know these people he's like met him on a forum and he revs
00:41:15| his engine and he drives off and you're like damn dude my dad's a badass now but not really because he's like 64. but like whatever do you and i think that's the
00:41:24| midlife crisis thing like you can you can you can pick up your life and change it at any second like you're on a course yeah you have a plan
00:41:34| but it you can alter it any second you're mimicking x or y but this is golden handcuffs for me because i my trajectory now what they
00:41:44| are that's like i kind of wish that when i was younger i jumped around because there's like right now if you're young you could literally airbnb
00:41:56| like a month in one place a month in another place like you could probably get by you might be broke at the end of it but if you have these like little jobs every
00:42:04| now and then like you could probably like take a job for like six months and be like this sucks but i experienced it you take that experience and then you
00:42:11| like save it to your your memory banks so what are you getting at what's worth more the monies or the experiences
00:42:20| the experiences but you need money to have experiences sometimes yeah so it's a trade-off it is of course what do you think about those instagram
00:42:33| people that are like always traveling jumping into like crystal blue waters with nice music playing and hot girls like they're probably having a really good time but they're doing it
00:42:45| so back to back and so fast and moving on and they don't have boring stuff to compare it to like those influencers are going to a cave in dubai
00:42:54| and then like immediately flying to like mexico to do with this exotic town and i think they're having a great time dude they're vibing they're living a life
00:43:02| probably better than mine but they will not know what it's like to have monotony in life and do dishes and work a nine-to-five for three weeks
00:43:13| straight where you didn't enjoy a day of those three weeks and there's something powerful about being able to do that and then enjoy something to endure that and then
00:43:25| move on because that person that influencer who's having a great life and everything i don't even know if they could do three works three weeks of labor like what
00:43:34| would happen to them they might break they might not they might matter they they wouldn't know what the hell is going on their brains wouldn't function so
00:43:43| see no matter what you're doing you're you're getting better at something even if it's a stupid monotony job or like doing something you hate you're getting better at enduring
00:43:53| i don't think you should get so good at enduring that it becomes your norm but when you do you build up a callous that someone with a life of luxury does not
00:44:03| have you're able to endure things that some people can't so there's an advantage to be taken from whatever you do whether you're an
00:44:15| influencer or not yeah i just think you can't do all of one thing you can't be an influencer 24 7 for 40 years
00:44:23| you can't be a blue collar laborer who doesn't get vacations for 30 years and just works on the fish line or whatever the [ __ ] i made up that term but you know
00:44:32| fish line this is it's becoming jaded but this is very much like um my friend who's a photographer she took pictures for like rolling stone and
00:44:43| the moment she captures it looks very like vivacious full of life and exciting but really there's probably days worth of prep to get all the items
00:44:53| and make sure the person who's there is like dolled up and done right and they angle the lighting there's tons of stuff that goes on that
00:45:00| one shot and there's probably what most people don't realize is probably like hundreds of shots and they just picked it and there's people arguing
00:45:07| over which shot to take like not only take but like like which one the pitch yeah right so when it becomes something like
00:45:16| like even designing something or creating something you think of all the different offshoots that you had to pare down because you you didn't have the time or they weren't
00:45:25| that interesting or you failed at them it's like what i guess like a game designer would see is like the final product is incredibly flawed it's missing all of
00:45:34| these pieces like i tried to make all of this i cut this out i wish we could have kept this this rendition didn't work we recorded this but it was with the wrong
00:45:42| software so what we ended up with was this and they see something that's terribly like oh i just wish i could have been better and
00:45:49| someone who sees it for the first time is like oh it was awesome i freaking loved it it was so cool this is pretty uh awesome but you're reminded of your work nemesis
00:45:59| winning that battle of that one widget and you're like that thing sucks like mine was better damn it would have been the difference so what are we getting at
00:46:12| do you want to wrap it up or you want me to go into a full-blown replication here no go to football replication some of us have to pay it doesn't matter it's like whatever
00:46:21| so there was a conversation about uh bit flips right can you remember this conversation radiation i actually do yeah i do where you have to have a double safe check to
00:46:31| make sure because one every billion this will show that the the bit has flipped even though it hasn't so you need a double fail-safe to make sure right is that yeah essentially
00:46:45| so essentially if you are in like software and you're safety critical what's called and you need to make sure that when you're processing something when you're doing
00:46:54| the math that you're double checking something has to be a billion percent correct because millions of lives are at stake or millions of dollars are at stake
00:47:02| something super important even if it's a simple process has to be safe so how do you make sure because the interesting part is that
00:47:14| it's really that the digital world and all the logic really comes down to a yes or no question done about a billion times so like a
00:47:24| i is just a yes or no many many many times and then also our genetics in evolution is also like a variance of yes or no yes no checks
00:47:37| right it's well it's four genes but one's on or one's off if fair it's yes or no ac right gtac not cgac or cga whatever the rna is but let's not go
00:47:50| there go yeah so all those things are randomly like bit flipping and creating something new whether the new thing is good or bad i don't know who
00:48:00| to say it is it's whether it succeeds or survives but what most people don't realize is that like your computer is the bunch of yes
00:48:09| knows all like all over again like multiple times a second it's just yes yes yes no no no yes yes you guys no like the reason that we change is
00:48:19| radiation and it's the same thing that affects computers so if you're calculating something and there's like a speck of radiation just explodes in that one
00:48:28| little bit and flips it you get like errors blue screens things fail yes could be a no no it could be a yes
00:48:36| sure so this leads into like tron you watch tron the new one old one yeah uh both is it digital jazz and how they did yeah that's a is that kurt russell again is that
00:48:53| what's his name yeah again i think what that's not russell it's uh uh what's his name jeff daniels daniel fact check us yeah but what he was
00:49:07| talking about was like there's probably another level of like the way you can break down a person versus the way you break down a computer and they're talking about how like a.i
00:49:16| generated this like being and then they became like their own entity so it's it's weird that we're just essentially like the human human beings
00:49:28| are essentially just instructions that are built out to house an intellect which we can't definitely answer is yes now sure consciousness intellect we can't
00:49:40| define i'm glad we're doing an entire episode worth of material right here yeah i just went off on a tangent i don't know where i was going i know and
00:49:48| i get it so what you were getting at is that we can mimic anything can we mimic human life i don't know why would we mimic things
00:49:58| are we constantly just mimics is that what we are is that what you were getting at kind of yeah um if we could rebuild the human body like
00:50:07| exactly if we could copy you with the mind yeah can we cop so there's there's this is the oh look at its abs [Laughter]
00:50:18| you'd if you had weed money you might make out with them i might for less i might for less but it's interesting like if you break your arm and like
00:50:30| you could have it rebuilt like you could just like this was my arm i have it saved just like fix me like there's a weird aspect of if you
00:50:40| merged biology medicine and some sort of weird like computer technology that you can make something that like protects people and
00:50:51| rebuilds them it would be used for capitalistic gains i'm sure a hundred percent and then be honest warriors we were just people with multiple arms going to war
00:51:04| what were the things in uh bioshock called daddy's it's like they didn't know the enhancements like the there's a plasma yeah that's exactly
00:51:16| the world of plasmids it's like 25 cents welcome to the circus of values hmm i took it off the rails where did where do you think ripley replication
00:51:31| should go honestly you said i don't i'm not a replicator i'm you're an original you're a unique snowflake
00:51:41| yeah i like to think i am of course i steal from everyone and steal from everything and my brand of humor is derived from this my brand of music is derived from this
00:51:49| my brand of like i don't know how i make friends is derived from this it's all derived but it's like i make my own and i'm also not afraid that it will fail hmm
00:52:02| what do you mean like so this is weird i heard jazz music really loud tonight when i was on my deck cooking crawling really loud and i said oh that's
00:52:21| probably live music down the street you know it's coved everything else i was like it's it's totally a bass player and totally a saxophonist and
00:52:31| it's totally jazz i was like kind of see what's going on so instead of grilling i walked down walked across the street walked
00:52:39| up the block and i saw live musicians and i was like hey i don't want to bother anyone i don't know what you guys are doing but i just want to say shout out
00:52:47| i really dig the bass yours is much bigger than mine and it was like a it was like a 10 foot or and by 10 foot i mean like six foot uh upright bass cello whatever it was cool and then
00:52:57| saxophonist and i was like listen and it was like older black gentlemen and i was like oh damn these guys know what's up like they've been around the block for
00:53:04| years like these guys are old cats like they get it and i was like i just want to give you guys a shout out everything you're doing tonight sounds really awesome i can hear
00:53:11| from my balcony i don't know i didn't know if you're having a concert over here and then a couple came out and they're like oh we were actually celebrating our wedding
00:53:18| anniversary and we don't go out much for coke and i was like i was like oh i'm standing over here i'm like oh this is cool you guys look wonderful
00:53:26| they were like 47 years of marriage and i was like that's awesome like you guys they were dressed up like it was really touching um i knew a couple of places where they
00:53:36| were from because i had somewhere from and everything and i was like this is cool like you guys have a good time i was like i'm nick i'm from this house over here and they were like oh we know
00:53:43| that house that's the party house and i was like oh that's like they got me that is the party house and i was like anyway guys have a great
00:53:51| night and i don't know like my idea is always just do something different or original or just don't do
00:54:01| what most people would do and i have no clue who those people were the jazz musicians i totally like them i totally dig them i totally hope they remember me and i don't know who the couple is
00:54:11| although they're sort of my neighbors so next time i see him i'll be able to say hi and like whatever but the idea is i don't know what percentage of people
00:54:20| would have just went over there and did that and in my brain i was just like ah don't bother them like don't go down there and do it but it was like real quick
00:54:26| it was real easy it was real i just wanted to say hey i wanted to tell them i appreciate what they're doing and it sounded cool and give a little you know people like
00:54:34| feedback every now and then without hanging around and being like breathing on them and stuff like that yeah there's a miniature challenge in here good
00:54:44| so i was watching a kurt vonnegut um i guess educational video about the classic of the classic story like what gets people hooked the most and he's essentially
00:54:54| going through cinderella and putting it on a plot graphing the happiness of the character and like he said this is repeated time and time again
00:55:01| so as a writer i guess a lot of people follow the same kind of plot whatever sure same kind of like there's copying they're mimicking until they
00:55:11| can expound on something the variance but get this if it gets copied so many times in so many stories the thing that's gonna grab your attention is one that doesn't copy
00:55:20| it because it's different yeah it's a balance i mean you're going to find that like eventually this formula works pretty well but the formula is going to
00:55:30| it's going to con itself out when everyone's doing it 90 of people you've read the story 900 times someone does something different you're like oh damn
00:55:38| oh damn it's like the first uh seven seven seven seasons of uh game of thrones this guy said the first seven seasons yeah i wouldn't i wouldn't disagree
00:55:49| though but they did it totally different they killed off characters that you shouldn't kill off and everyone was like i need more
00:55:57| you're right it was not exactly the the proper way to do a show and still characters yeah it was different but what you touched on was the moment so when you're in a moment with people
00:56:09| like the the i guess kind of like the inflection and the tone and the context all of that adds up to uniqueness that you can't you can't copy and paste and
00:56:22| then you and you also can't share that with people exactly no you guys have no clue i know but you guys weren't there and you i'm glad you listened and everything but i felt weird
00:56:31| when i was in i was like he had to be there i always wanted to say but you're right which is strange right because most people
00:56:41| i don't know that they're on that level of having actual interactions with people with sharing i guess unique moments it's the how's the weather
00:56:51| how are you like the standard communication protocols it's very strange that most people i would say majority of people are like willing to
00:57:01| go along with this like that kind of standard well because they're yeah i i would agree most people don't want to break that you also don't want
00:57:10| to be the guy who's in line at the grocery store who just starts talking to the young clerk and maybe he's creepy and he has no he doesn't know he's creepy you know
00:57:18| that's the danger for me at one point am i like you know anyway this is a two dollar bill you ever seen a two dollar bill before
00:57:28| yes sir i have nobody talks anymore like i wouldn't do that like you know what i mean but but at the same time the person who's doing that
00:57:38| doesn't know that they're out of line so there is a fine line i will say that you have to know what you're doing but there's also a reward for not doing your own thing and not i don't
00:57:49| know i'm going off base what we're saying here is everyone has a midlife crisis and you're having yours right now listening to this
00:57:57| episode if you listen this far you're having a midlife crisis what can you do to correct it buy a harley yeah go buy a sport for
00:58:11| them find some dudes find some guys find some bros that'll help you get through this it's a bicep of guys in their bicep mansion
00:58:20| their workout party i think what it boils down to is that you really just need solid connections with people you need to find people that are
00:58:28| like you in mentality and it might surprise you who has that mentality even if here's the interesting thing i think that's what might cause that midlife crisis you kind of get away from
00:58:39| that yeah like you know in high school we're all best friends we're all laughing we're all doing [ __ ] in college you're kind of the same thing by the
00:58:46| time you get in your late 20s early 30s you kind of like you mentioned no one's caring for you and you're not really bros with anyone i mean you're doing
00:58:53| [ __ ] so it's like you you disassociate from the world and just become this i'm doing a job i'm saving money i'm doing this i'm fixing the
00:59:02| house i'm doing this i'm raising a kid and you stop having those interactions with people like you said if if you're if you've known somebody for
00:59:12| you know a few weeks maybe that's not long enough to understand that they're sarcastic all the time and when you need to get somebody off your back you just
00:59:21| you gotta show them your butthole that's what you gotta do man maybe that's the only way to get rid of some people or get them really into you it really it
00:59:33| really depends where the dice fall yeah and that if a girl's really into you that's the only way that's how you know that it's true that's fate or you're faded
00:59:46| so what we're saying is keep checking our social keep checking our this um yeah some kind of i gotta pee and you know that's the way it goes when you get older folks
00:59:59| so thanks for tuning in every episode depends on me it depends on the episode it does but thank you for checking us out okay i think anything to add about
01:00:11| midlife crises or mimicking please feel free to not even tell us yeah because we probably don't well i probably would care i don't think
01:00:20| nick would care though i would care i wouldn't get around to checking it that's i think that's a good night it is thanks for joining us
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00:01:38| about anything but the intro i was in the moment i was grasping it feeling it wow coursing three to pulsing through you maybe even well i'm nick folks
00:01:49| i'm dan this is just another friggin episode of the unpanderers uh welcome we enjoy you thoroughly we enjoy you maybe thoroughly maybe just like
00:02:03| averagely i hope you enjoy myself you enjoy myself so this episode is a hodgepodge a mix of two things one a well prepped episode that you're
00:02:18| going to be ready for clean clear cut direct yes meandering nonsense not at all no not straight to it so two things uh
00:02:33| two things yeah mid-life crisis yeah or crises as it's referred to as and replication which has a lot of implications so i guess where does this begin
00:02:50| we talk about well let's talk about life crises yeah let's start with that when do they usually happen like 35 to somewhere in there we uh had an episode on this
00:03:00| and i think we did it about two years ago we did and it's kind of strange because we didn't we weren't i don't think we were there yet mid-life
00:03:09| prices no now or there we are boom here we are we have them boom holy crap people are doing crazy stuff now yeah i think there's a few things that make it a midlife crisis is that i'm
00:03:22| going to start with number one and i don't know how many numbers there are but we're going to keep going a yeah you replicate yourself is it's our number one
00:03:32| hey number one a roman numeral um good so you replicate yourself i think kids you make a copy of yourself with
00:03:45| somebody else who also makes a copy of themselves and you battle to make the better copy of oneself constantly sounds like terminator i
00:03:53| don't 100 agree with it but i i can see where you're going with it a little bit okay you try to come trying to yeah their physical body their mentality
00:04:01| their education they gotta have the way they did their career type lesson okay carrier career you're trying to you're trying to be them
00:04:12| you're trying to give them what you remember as childhood even though that's incredibly flawed like you're doing that to your kid you tried to give your kid the opportunities
00:04:22| that you had what's that oh i'm sorry i missed the kid part so it is it's literally you're giving your child your childhood yep okay which is flawed oh terribly yeah
00:04:34| all right terrible it was actually a terrible upbringing in fact by recreating it you're creating a terrible upbringing so you're recreating everything yeah yeah well give them the
00:04:43| memories going to the beach doing this packing up for to go to the camper which by the way as a kid you hated and now as an adult you're trying to
00:04:50| recreate it for the kid and you're like i hated this when i was a kid but we're gonna dang right we're going to do it and you you pack up the vehicle and you force
00:04:59| everyone to do sort of it's uh 22. it's a catch-22 because you didn't enjoy it as a kid you thought it felt forced you did not enjoy it the memories of it
00:05:11| were they're interesting because it was different than the norm so we'll give it that points there right it's doing something
00:05:18| different yes it's tradition so that's like an extra point and it was awful and you hated it and it was inconvenient so as an adult you're like ah i would
00:05:27| never do that to my kid except that's what i'm gonna do i'm gonna do tradition and we're gonna make it awful and i'm gonna pack the car and i'm gonna hate it
00:05:35| and i'm not really know what i'm doing but my family did it and darn tootin we're gonna do it too is that irony yeah i think that's irony because like
00:05:45| you were swore against it you would never do it you hate it and then here you are 20 years later you're doing it anyway just doing it again being like damn it
00:05:53| we have to do this so what things from your childhood are you trying to replicate with your child are you we do a lot of vacations we do beach trips and stuff like that and we
00:06:04| load the vehicle up and we have so many goddamn beach toys and we put so many goddamn beach toys on a beach cart that i have to wheel to the beach and i
00:06:13| hate it it's like literally it's oh it's hell on earth i don't like the dunes and like the angle if 30 30 degree incline makes you realize that your muscles
00:06:21| aren't what they were you're withering away my muscles are what they but it doesn't matter it's still a lot of work for what this is the kicker
00:06:30| i put all the stuff in the car it took a long time to find it i don't know why we still have in the garage it takes up space i want to get rid of it oh we keep it for beach trips i get it i
00:06:40| put it in the vehicle and stack it for the beach trip it has to be stacked a certain way so sand doesn't everything then when it gets there we have to
00:06:46| unpack it into the beach house i have to put it somewhere it has to come out of the vehicle then when we go to the beach it has to be loaded onto the beach caddy and we
00:06:54| have to bring it to the beach then i walk it to the beach and i have to trek it i have to push it i have to pull it i have to move it over dry sand wet sand over
00:07:02| the humps over the curbs everything and then when we get to the beach no one will freaking play with it what they do it's like five minutes yeah and i'm like why the hell
00:07:12| does that even matter to them is that i think you get to this yeah exactly you get to the stage where um i i personally saw that like my wife she tries to set up all of these
00:07:24| things that are like supposed to happen in a certain way and that child just blows right by it and she's like oh yeah splash through sand in your face eat
00:07:32| this and it's like yeah it's like none of this like the true nature of enjoyment is just let the kid go let him run like be be you can't
00:07:42| into the woods enjoyment particularly no i think it's a flawed model to plan enjoyment especially the way that children see the world like we got uh
00:07:52| macaroons today and like they don't know what they are they said whoa tiny chocolate cheeseburgers this is great and it's just like you're right that's
00:08:02| what these things are just i accept it yeah go for it please go for it but it's just bizarre looks like everything that they do is just like
00:08:10| oh i guess you're kind of right like if you didn't have any like preparedness you didn't know what things were yeah in your mind that's a chocolate
00:08:19| cheeseburger 100 but sometimes you're wrong they're like ah i don't want to do that you're like no this is a fun game i played it with my parents before them
00:08:27| for years and generations and everyone played parteezy it's a great game and they're like i don't want to play and you're like you have to play to have
00:08:35| fun and like it's become a forced position because it's like if you don't play you won't have fun like you're like forcing fun to happen i don't know so
00:08:46| the other thing is you run out of time i'm gonna just hit all the things i think are midlife crises oh god is that you have kids you run out of time you try to make other people happy
00:08:56| no one else tries to make you happy it starts to fade your importance a lot of people are trying no no not a lot of people trying to make the dads around the world happy
00:09:05| yeah if you are shout out no one's ever lived you're a fan of the daddies how are you today nick you feel okay you're looking a little down can i rub your feet
00:09:18| yeah actually yeah let's put my feet up let's if a man came onto me and said i want to give you massages all day long and be like
00:09:33| all right you know that sounds good what's what's the catch what's the catch i make smoothies and i'd be like ah give me a hug now i like it are you mormon come on let me
00:09:47| know in the comments so people stop caring about you and the weird part about us is like your kids only care about the attention you give them
00:09:59| your wife certainly cares about the attention you give her and your parents don't [ __ ] about you anymore because you're all grown up
00:10:06| really you kind of do like my parents still can't care about me yeah i just saw them like the past two days so i mean they were nice to me that's nice nick now they didn't i mean
00:10:16| what did they do for me i uh well they did supply some dinner we had a birthday party for my dad so it was cool he is not at a midlife crisis i think
00:10:25| he's settled down finally at 60. shout out my father good job good so he's not going to make it to 120 is that what you're saying
00:10:36| he might he might technology stash will live on just might anyway go ahead people stop caring about you in general 100 and then you stop caring about yourself
00:10:51| no you don't you don't feel like you stopped caring about well like progression like what what do you think well oh no i don't have a plan for myself or anything
00:11:00| like that so you stop caring no i mean i like i groom and i um i brush my teeth and i work out that's about it
00:11:08| you still got six-pack abs i kind of do yeah kinda it's not an answer well so there's different kind of six packs and i didn't want to get into this in this episode
00:11:17| there's there's congruent six packs where it's like a perfect six and then there's incongruent and i have like a little irregular six-pack
00:11:25| is that even possible no it's not actually your muscle groups actually form that way and it might have to do with uh your diet and something to do with your body and i don't know
00:11:34| have the article seem very interesting video games how many days you've played video games done congratulations incongruence and just
00:11:49| another day of video games and i'll straighten them out so i will say there's some things i care about myself but for the most part nah it's just like man yeah your life goals
00:11:58| you realize that oh life goals no good lord i don't have any of those five year plan suicide memes are like my favorite mexico it's like i wish i was dead with like a
00:12:09| hang ten symbol or like whatever and you're like ah let's like that one i think that's that's my go-to yeah the other thing i read the other day is
00:12:18| that someone was like graduating college and they like their whole life was built towards being an engineer and working for nasa and like doing these crazy things and as
00:12:28| an intern they succeeded in all of that and they said well what do i do now before they even graduated college peaked
00:12:36| and they said i'll just really sell my my time for money and then i'll be free i was like wow this is what you do yeah it's pretty much true at some point you just have done something so long that
00:12:48| you're just like well i guess i should do it more this is the way it goes i suppose it is it is it is i suppose hmm so what's next
00:13:05| it starts to dwindle not necessarily the amount but it's like the satisfaction you get from it that's fair i believe you you're like i believe you you know
00:13:16| you know the positions the other person likes and like deviating from the same person though you gotta i guess you gotta mix it up do you become alive again when you have another
00:13:27| uh interest i don't oh my god i don't know that would be an interesting test that someone should have to run yeah but i find that like even if i'm
00:13:36| having lots of sex it's like it's not like i'm 16 again and like i've never seen a vagina before in person well i mean i've never seen a vagina again in person
00:13:51| irl in real life as an irl vagina yeah asl baby i guess i mean that's that ties into realistically no matter who you are and
00:14:03| your sex drive it will slowly start to diminish as the older you get we obviously know this no one has the sex drive as when they were
00:14:14| you know it's just physics might still be able to perform pretty well and do your thing but like eventually it will slow down my marks are pretty high
00:14:25| on the ceiling on my report card okay cool i thought you're going with the stains on your ceiling oh it's like these are pretty high yeah that's the joke
00:14:36| yeah you got it it's pretty good there you go semen semen that's for the other danes of the audience you may need to know
00:14:47| maybe a little hint or two see page 42. um so what else goes what else is disappointing that other people are better than things what about this one
00:14:58| what you didn't mention is like you didn't you didn't do a thing yeah you didn't do a thing you can never go back and more regrets build up and if you have good memory it just
00:15:08| piles on so people with better memories are worse midlife crises crises oh my god i remember all the things i didn't
00:15:18| do yeah all the bad things there's a lot of them all the times i came onto a woman and i said the wrong thing oh that's awkward hey
00:15:29| nice to see you oh no [Music] i have to leave this now the uh i always go with more like what you didn't do
00:15:40| like you didn't decide to become a motorcycle guy everyone could you could right yeah you didn't get into billiards really bad um you didn't start smoking cigars and
00:15:48| drinking scotch you never did like some people did 30. you just drank regular beers maybe you didn't get into i don't know what else do people do like
00:15:58| you never did sports cars like you were like i never got into cars and i never really had the money and i didn't do it it wasn't my thing oh yeah there you go sports ah that's a
00:16:10| big one people never got into it i could see it in all my like other friends even like high school friends that didn't play team sports because in college you can't
00:16:19| really like if you're not really good at it incorrect yes you can i signed up for men's league ice hockey and that was my first ice hockey experience
00:16:27| it's your first your first ice logging experience but that was like but that's not a true competitive outlet like it is oh no no
00:16:36| that's the most competitive thing i've ever seen in my life there's people cutting each other's throat at age 38 and 40 because of what we're talking about today technically
00:16:46| those those exact people were referring the ones who missed their their choices did you he didn't play any did you play sports in high school uh i know i got caught from the crew
00:16:57| team practice and i wanted to play ice hockey but like i didn't have ice skates and my parents never were gonna get me so no oh that's so sad nick so i played
00:17:06| them in college which you can do but you're not going to play on any varsity team you're going to play on the men's league c i feel like that's
00:17:15| that's a missed opportunity though and it is but yeah but i wasn't athletic until like high school college age more seventh graders need more sorrow
00:17:24| midlife crisis i'll get that english oh trust me show me the anguish nick goddard i wish i had like i'm not saying i i'm
00:17:38| glad i didn't like who's the douchebag who says like i'm glad i didn't play high school sports i played him in college like no i totally would have loved to freaking play high school
00:17:46| sports but like i don't know if it's because my parents were like had two other kids and we didn't have a lot of money or because i was also awful at sports like you combine
00:17:53| the two and it's like yeah we're not wasting our money kid you know what i mean yeah i don't regret it i mean i wish they had because that would have
00:18:03| opened new opportunities for me interesting yeah there is i could play for your freaking dad oops yeah this is a good coach coach that's the surprising thing is that they
00:18:14| had four ice hockey teams and they added a fifth so that all the rejects could play hold on hold on there's v1 v2 jva jvb they hit another one
00:18:23| jvc they had jvc at our high school yeah so you're on c you see yeah you could have made c you could have played i couldn't even see
00:18:35| who else is on c give me some names without last names uh martin oh i did i love martin i would love to play with martin g oh my god what's uh mcgill
00:18:47| mcgill yeah i would have i would have played with miguel oh dude and then uh um pincher jordan oh jordan was that bad i thought he was good
00:18:58| he had a good shot but he couldn't move okay what about um what about something like that who pincher he i think he was higher okay that's
00:19:08| fine how about aj aj no yeah yeah well i think yeah he is c reynolds that's hilarious what are you going to tell the story about how it's like yeah you ever you ever
00:19:20| suck dick for coke no he uh made out with a man money and weed it was money too wow that's okay he got like 50 bucks and he got like a baggie of weed
00:19:29| and he was like he was like yeah i'll do it i'm like at the prom or he regrets it no not at all you know what happened to him i mean he got what he wanted right
00:19:39| like what what's the no skin off his back yeah but there was it was a motley crew so it's unique experience and then the focus yeah there's a drive
00:19:51| there that i feel like an outlet for all the aggression you have when you're a kid it helps actually body checking somebody legally and then laughing at them as
00:20:01| they smack the ice that's really really good can't do that in the corporate job you can but there are different consequences i feel like
00:20:16| anyway move on what else what else makes up this list i feel like the like what did i cover already is that you lose your time you don't have anybody
00:20:26| caring about you no one cares about you you missed out on opportunities to do reports things whatever you like regrets sure your drive is fading you haven't met your
00:20:34| goals yeah sure i would agree with that and other people are better than you there's just people out there that spent their time honing their skills at
00:20:42| certain things and you're just like that's depressing thank you two things that i should have thought of and you're like huh damn you're a loser but damn you damn you the
00:20:54| other thing is that i don't know that the end goal is that valuable like for like retirement purposes like being free and not having like or having
00:21:02| a boatload of money not having any unnecessary like requirements on you i don't know if that's happiness either i see a whole bunch of celebrities that just don't
00:21:12| like they're aimless and they wander and it's just like what like you have millions of dollars like what do something else and they're just like i don't know what to do
00:21:20| interesting interestingly enough the happiest thing in my life is that i'm in junior sales at my job make dirt money and i hang out with like
00:21:31| a 23 year old and a 27 year old and like we all make dirt money and we all get [ __ ] on and we're all really bad in the company and we all get like [ __ ] jobs
00:21:42| and all we do is stick around and cheat chat each other and [ __ ] tell inside jokes and [Music] and we're like kind of like low lights
00:21:51| like we're not striving to be the best we can at the company like you know what i mean slaggers yeah but we have inside jokes we we've
00:21:59| dick around like that's that's the most fun thing i have in my life right now and it's ironic that it's literally the opposite of making good money and being successful but that's the
00:22:10| other thing is like being successful really means that you take on a lot of stress and do more work than you should because you're responsible you're also
00:22:19| isolated yeah there's a camaraderie in the being a working class schmuck yes like being one of the yeomen being
00:22:27| a nobody in a way i find this also but i have people working under me because i'm a manager technically i guess or not technically i just wrote you are that you just are i guess
00:22:39| i'm a manager and it's weird because like some of the people under me don't have any drive and i have to like have these like weird gimmicks i feel like
00:22:48| [ __ ] have these weird gimmicks to get them to do their job and it's like if it was me i would like i would just go out and do the job and like figure out the best way to do
00:22:58| it but that's not how everyone works like i guess i'm type a and i never knew it but like these people are not type a
00:23:06| most of them and they just kind of like will do the bare minimum overall what are they getting paid not my basic people that get paid like 20 bucks
00:23:15| an hour so like do you think it also has to do with their pay period like do you mean what if you're like yo if you get the job done better and
00:23:22| faster we'll pay like one point five times as much do you think that would help them i thought about it i thought about this on a walk today
00:23:29| where i was i made 16 an hour when i was in college in an internship and i did lots of crazy [ __ ] to try to like prove this like theory right
00:23:39| and i don't know that the money matters when you're because like the people were paying 20 bucks they're young they're like college age so it's like
00:23:48| it's like the drive is either there or not that's the other thing it's like classifying people sure there are certain people right you will find that certain people
00:23:54| have drive certain ones don't and it's weird to like be a manager and then understand that like you can't just expect people to do it if you ask them you have to actually like
00:24:06| set goals and then track them and then also like set these like milestones like these weird milestones that don't matter so you're constantly like making up this
00:24:16| fake like scheme so that they'll work harder and then you realize that you've become a manager and you're the [ __ ] like you're the [ __ ] marching people
00:24:25| forward for no reason at all yeah so yeah that's it the glory of it doesn't really add up to what it actually is and i think at this age you realize that that
00:24:35| happens enough that you're like i don't know that anything will really make me happy that is supposed to be like the penultimate thing
00:24:44| sure the um is there anything else that kind of sums up what we're talking about before we talk about it itself any other ingredients that go into like kind of like a
00:24:58| midlife thing i guess there has to be a plateauing right yeah your life doesn't go up anymore you're not making your relationship making your
00:25:07| interactions are going down like you're not you're not increasing in all these things you're kind of hey this is where you're at dude this is where you're at buddy you're not meeting
00:25:16| x amount of new people you're not doing x amount of new relationship stuff you're not finding out who you are you're not expanding growing no
00:25:23| you're not i mean you are who you are at this point you're not like uh man i have so much potential to be anything nah you're probably one of three things
00:25:35| like you know what i mean yeah we got you a pretty big yeah yeah for me the milestones have already passed so like new car new house
00:25:46| getting married having kids like what's yeah those are all pretty big ones i mean what after this or retiring i don't know that there are big ones last killing a friend
00:25:57| killing a friend no one's ever killed a friend there's somebody behind him in the closet he's just coming in there and his stats
00:26:13| for me yes i could buy a house here absolutely i could get married you're right i could i actually also feel like i've experienced those things without
00:26:20| experiencing them i'm like i'm over it interesting i don't ask me why or how but that's how i feel about them i'm like yeah i feel like i've done them sort of in
00:26:31| theory i've gone to like probably 50 plus weddings at this point in my life it's a lot of weddings you know what it's about yeah
00:26:40| i've been in wedding parties i've been a total outsider i've gone to weddings of some of my best friends did you get married anyway i've given speeches at weddings
00:26:48| you know i mean like i've been a part of them and i really think it'll be cool to get married but i'm not there in my life and i also don't think it's like a
00:26:58| milestone where i have to get because i think some people will never get married and that's okay for them so what this is going to transition the
00:27:06| discussion sure what are you going to what are you modeling your life after are you like looking forward and saying i want to be that do you have a
00:27:13| role model or no no i'm literally just surviving week to week i'm like oh my god i made it oh my god i made it another week oh my god i made it another week
00:27:22| and so i actually don't feel like uh like i think i'm avoiding this mid-life crisis if that makes sense so does every week feel the same then
00:27:32| um they all have their own adventures and their own ups and downs and i feel like sometimes they're very repetitive and i'm like you've done this before you forgot about
00:27:42| your car insurance and now it's due and i'm like okay i think i got it use your credit card and then i'm like okay well groceries usually you get them on
00:27:54| this week pretend you didn't know and have someone else in the house get them and you know what i mean you gotta like be sneaky about it be like oh i thought it was
00:28:02| you're weak i'm so sorry you got this thanks i'm just you know you're good and then like also there's a little oh yeah a little bit dude i mean otherwise if you're not a mooch yeah
00:28:14| because if you're not a mooch then in six months or three months when you can't pay another bill you're gonna be a mooch then we'll tell the difference like you're doing it in
00:28:23| moochiness yes spread it out try and limit the damage uh but then there's also things like um how much bass you're playing how much
00:28:31| drums i played drums for like 40 minutes the other day felt really good i was like really getting in the groove like because
00:28:38| that's another thing you didn't talk about is your hobbies the things you used to do for joy you don't have time for all the time how much video games you play do you
00:28:47| play your bass uh are you playing guitar you uh getting out there fishing whenever you really get into it are you destroying all the stuff you have going on
00:28:56| no i'd have actually gotten into drums i well i would have been way more into drums and love drums and been a drummer as it is i'm a mild drama enthusiast but i played for 40 minutes the other
00:29:10| day and i got some some tight grooves and i actually i grew in drums for the first time in maybe a year two years like if you do an
00:29:20| activity enough whether it's drumming or whittling or [ __ ] cutting your dog's hair or whatever you're into if you do it enough you can actually feel yourself
00:29:28| grow get better at it you like get tired physically by it and you're like i did it so much today and i got so good at it and i think that's the thing that we
00:29:37| stop doing as you reach a certain age realizations are epiphanies they disappear i do love a good epiphany i can't remember the last time i had one
00:29:49| don't you have them on the nightly when you recorded an unpanderer's episode no moving on someone shifts the topic to replication yeah go ahead
00:30:03| so those are midlife crises and we all get there we all buy a harley we all get back into a hobby and do some weird [ __ ] we join a gang yeah we mimic i think our mimic almost
00:30:16| yeah replicate which uh i think mimic was a movie right it was a 1990s or species it was species they called her a mimic that's what it was yes she was copying herself
00:30:29| uncanny valley oh that's um what's the high school movie was that species no oh you're talking about the faculty yeah i love that one mm-hmm
00:30:40| it is most interesting when it's they use like human beings you got the thing yeah same idea yeah where it's like your most dangerous i'm real david
00:30:50| i'm real he's most famous mine two daughters what are their names i'm i'm real i'm real i'm real i think i couldn't even make up
00:31:01| two names anyway vanilla skyrocket i feel like you like you set the post and it's a post that's based in reality it's based in somebody
00:31:12| else's doing and i feel like the like the way your life goes in the very beginning is how your parents try to make you be and like you you're going to your
00:31:23| kids um i'm getting there i'm getting there okay guys jumping ahead so they try to make you a certain way
00:31:30| in their own image or whatever you want to call it and you might rebel or not and i've seen this in a lot of people is that they accept what they're given and they
00:31:39| ride that until it shatters i see people that like when they got to college and they were like straight laced they didn't realize that the world they lived in was a bubble and that
00:31:49| thing elders yeah was the uh rum salta i don't know idea what that means is that the amish thing where the amish can go away for like a year or two and
00:31:58| they have to come back yeah that's same idea i think it's called rum spelt rumsfelt i'm really bad at words so yeah search amish what do you call it you're off
00:32:07| yeah sure uh rum springer ah my bad rump springer brother yeah yeah they literally i have relatives that live in amish country and
00:32:19| they said that there would people be people like wearing the amish garb and like young teenagers they'd go to like a mall or something they literally would like unzip this
00:32:30| like amish garb and like have regular clothes on and then you like experience life like a normal person whatever normal is right to find normal but that's fine not
00:32:40| here to argue about that but could you if you were in that situation and you saw a life that was obviously better could you
00:32:48| take that life and say i'm never going to see my parents again i don't know i couldn't do it i mean maybe some people could even like the way we we were raised were
00:32:59| somewhat independent and capable of being independent i don't know that an amish person is capable of being independent and then breaking the network that they
00:33:08| they built around them or the network they were given rather well that's the whole idea is that even if they enjoy independence and they like the other life
00:33:18| they don't know anyone in that life and they have no support system and they don't have a job they don't have a house they don't have anyone there so for them to embrace that fully
00:33:27| they have to they have to make the biggest leap of all which by the way i don't even think i could do what you do and move
00:33:35| cross-country for a job or anything like i'm philadelphia area bound and i i don't think i could leave the area that's that's a big jump for me so to do
00:33:47| the next level leave geographically family wise like leave everything that you've been raised to do i don't think i could do it but that's me personally there are people i guess
00:33:58| who could i don't know yeah well i think i made the decision going to college you did go yeah i went six yeah i was gonna go
00:34:07| maybe to penn state because i was in pennsylvania and i had a lot of friends going there it just kind of felt kind of same-ish easy i have a thing where i just i can't do the same thing
00:34:17| as most people i have to be uh contrarian in some way sounds like enough too much work but then i saw i picked a college that was six
00:34:28| hours away from my home and i just like lived independently there and i guess it was not that hard so i figured
00:34:36| we'll just go now plus the jobs in the philadelphia area were really crappy right around 2008 or nine and uh i thought about this today too is that
00:34:48| there was a job with lutron the they make light switches like yeah in philadelphia that's weird i deal with that in wiring cable world yeah
00:34:57| well i interviewed with them for like a full day and i was like is this really what i want to be like i could i don't know how much they would offer people to make light switches you
00:35:06| make a better like balance make a better lights oh alrighty lordy lordy like do i really does this really like does it feel impressive to other
00:35:17| like it's not a status thing and it's not even i guess there are people out there that are like oh my god did you see that model b number 008 like that light
00:35:25| switch was fast you're saying that about the light switch they're getting off on it they're like oh my god did you see that light switch wow they got new technology yeah so i
00:35:37| could have done i could have done that i could have moved back it was not that far from you and i don't know i guess the enthusiasm was not there so they were like
00:35:46| we don't but they never gave me an offer but i don't think that i would have enjoyed it i don't like it it was not alluring it did not appeal to me
00:35:54| so i picked a job that was still far away and then that job sucked so i was like i gotta get out and then i took the first thing that looked like it was
00:36:02| appealing and then i moved really far away is that was that your mid-life prices no that was like 23. i know like could it have been your
00:36:14| midlife crisis doesn't mean it's really the middle of your life i think it means it's your big change your big switch your big i'm taking control of my life because
00:36:22| it's been going in x y and z and i want to change it yeah well you probably have two or three in the lifetime that job was so bad that i signed up for online tutoring
00:36:32| to teach other people while i was working and tried to get a scam out of that i remember it was not a scam i was going to actually
00:36:39| you wanted me to be a professor and sign off that i was i'm pretty sure at some point what are you going to teach english you told me it was your idea you
00:36:50| approached me if i would tutor maybe that sounds like me i kind of believe you okay just a little bit i want you to kind of believe me no i don't think you
00:36:58| went so far as to actually do it i'm just saying you're kicking around some ideas but anyway you were you were you're going into the wild west you're
00:37:06| doing some new [ __ ] you you're getting crazy you're you wanted to find you i guess that's which i think you did that is that is a midlife crisis i don't
00:37:13| care if it's at 23 or whatever the hell it is you probably have them five times in your life it's where your dna everything you've built up
00:37:23| everything you're working towards you don't want to do it anymore you don't want to keep going in that direction and there's no easy way to gently pull
00:37:32| away from these things you have to do it hard and you have to do it not fast but abruptly and you have to do it strong willed in a different direction you have to have a new
00:37:42| focus yeah two or three times decide on a job offer that changes your life forever yeah and you have to literally decide on it and not be
00:37:52| wishy-way you just have to be like yep i'm doing this one i'm doing x or i'm doing y and i'm doing y and this is y i'm doing x and this is y what are you doing why
00:38:00| no i said x doing y why are you doing x uh i see we're doing a three stooges bit yeah so you could be due for another one dude i think some people have more than
00:38:14| others i'm not even saying you will yeah i don't know i do look at like my cousins who have never left the bubble and i guess they don't want to or i i just don't i can't understand not
00:38:27| having drive i see like i understand why you were staying where you're at because you you're situated sure but they're younger they don't have kids
00:38:38| they have the opportunity to leave some place that is way less exciting than when where you are and you may not consider your location exciting but i've seen very
00:38:47| boring locations and where they live is not it's not you couldn't yeah yeah yeah just couldn't do it like it's like living in the
00:38:56| like my suburbs my suburbs your suburbs i feel like your suburbs have a little more life to them yeah i could see that yours is more stagnant more status quo
00:39:05| what happens already happens it's kind of like a repetitive story a mimicking as you were if you were to keep on pace with mimic because you wanted to this episode about
00:39:14| mimic yeah ah levittown nice drop yeah um take attack houses outside there's there's a strip town in levittown we won't mention names but they're
00:39:26| daytime peaches workers no not no not that one they're daytime workers very corpulent women very beautiful scorpion
00:39:39| is scorpion even are you trying to like vivacious um just thick thick everywhere and shout out to them you look at the definition of corpulent while we're on
00:39:52| this it is fat that's surprising okay cool i didn't want to i want to say fat so yeah pump no but everyone chubby yeah there you go okay
00:40:03| thank you that's perfect you didn't have to demean them i was trying to give them powerhouse word here regardless powerful power key they were what i'm getting at is that at any time
00:40:17| you technically could decide to do anything different you could change your life you can go do anything you can go anywhere you can pick up your [ __ ] and move anywhere
00:40:25| it's freedom baby it's freedom but hassle-wise [Laughter] it's almost never worth it yeah isn't that funny
00:40:38| which is interesting so if your life is [ __ ] or your life is so boring or your life is so a b c d every day you technically could
00:40:48| decide to pick up move it change it drastically go in a different direction i'm a harley guy now okay dad um you're call me roger and you're like that's
00:40:59| your middle name and no one's ever called you roger in your entire life and he's like yeah well i'm roger now and he buys a helmet and a harley
00:41:07| and he gets a freaking harley jacket and he's into harley's and he starts hanging out with guys who have harley's and you're like how do you know these people he's like met him on a forum and he revs
00:41:15| his engine and he drives off and you're like damn dude my dad's a badass now but not really because he's like 64. but like whatever do you and i think that's the
00:41:24| midlife crisis thing like you can you can you can pick up your life and change it at any second like you're on a course yeah you have a plan
00:41:34| but it you can alter it any second you're mimicking x or y but this is golden handcuffs for me because i my trajectory now what they
00:41:44| are that's like i kind of wish that when i was younger i jumped around because there's like right now if you're young you could literally airbnb
00:41:56| like a month in one place a month in another place like you could probably get by you might be broke at the end of it but if you have these like little jobs every
00:42:04| now and then like you could probably like take a job for like six months and be like this sucks but i experienced it you take that experience and then you
00:42:11| like save it to your your memory banks so what are you getting at what's worth more the monies or the experiences
00:42:20| the experiences but you need money to have experiences sometimes yeah so it's a trade-off it is of course what do you think about those instagram
00:42:33| people that are like always traveling jumping into like crystal blue waters with nice music playing and hot girls like they're probably having a really good time but they're doing it
00:42:45| so back to back and so fast and moving on and they don't have boring stuff to compare it to like those influencers are going to a cave in dubai
00:42:54| and then like immediately flying to like mexico to do with this exotic town and i think they're having a great time dude they're vibing they're living a life
00:43:02| probably better than mine but they will not know what it's like to have monotony in life and do dishes and work a nine-to-five for three weeks
00:43:13| straight where you didn't enjoy a day of those three weeks and there's something powerful about being able to do that and then enjoy something to endure that and then
00:43:25| move on because that person that influencer who's having a great life and everything i don't even know if they could do three works three weeks of labor like what
00:43:34| would happen to them they might break they might not they might matter they they wouldn't know what the hell is going on their brains wouldn't function so
00:43:43| see no matter what you're doing you're you're getting better at something even if it's a stupid monotony job or like doing something you hate you're getting better at enduring
00:43:53| i don't think you should get so good at enduring that it becomes your norm but when you do you build up a callous that someone with a life of luxury does not
00:44:03| have you're able to endure things that some people can't so there's an advantage to be taken from whatever you do whether you're an
00:44:15| influencer or not yeah i just think you can't do all of one thing you can't be an influencer 24 7 for 40 years
00:44:23| you can't be a blue collar laborer who doesn't get vacations for 30 years and just works on the fish line or whatever the [ __ ] i made up that term but you know
00:44:32| fish line this is it's becoming jaded but this is very much like um my friend who's a photographer she took pictures for like rolling stone and
00:44:43| the moment she captures it looks very like vivacious full of life and exciting but really there's probably days worth of prep to get all the items
00:44:53| and make sure the person who's there is like dolled up and done right and they angle the lighting there's tons of stuff that goes on that
00:45:00| one shot and there's probably what most people don't realize is probably like hundreds of shots and they just picked it and there's people arguing
00:45:07| over which shot to take like not only take but like like which one the pitch yeah right so when it becomes something like
00:45:16| like even designing something or creating something you think of all the different offshoots that you had to pare down because you you didn't have the time or they weren't
00:45:25| that interesting or you failed at them it's like what i guess like a game designer would see is like the final product is incredibly flawed it's missing all of
00:45:34| these pieces like i tried to make all of this i cut this out i wish we could have kept this this rendition didn't work we recorded this but it was with the wrong
00:45:42| software so what we ended up with was this and they see something that's terribly like oh i just wish i could have been better and
00:45:49| someone who sees it for the first time is like oh it was awesome i freaking loved it it was so cool this is pretty uh awesome but you're reminded of your work nemesis
00:45:59| winning that battle of that one widget and you're like that thing sucks like mine was better damn it would have been the difference so what are we getting at
00:46:12| do you want to wrap it up or you want me to go into a full-blown replication here no go to football replication some of us have to pay it doesn't matter it's like whatever
00:46:21| so there was a conversation about uh bit flips right can you remember this conversation radiation i actually do yeah i do where you have to have a double safe check to
00:46:31| make sure because one every billion this will show that the the bit has flipped even though it hasn't so you need a double fail-safe to make sure right is that yeah essentially
00:46:45| so essentially if you are in like software and you're safety critical what's called and you need to make sure that when you're processing something when you're doing
00:46:54| the math that you're double checking something has to be a billion percent correct because millions of lives are at stake or millions of dollars are at stake
00:47:02| something super important even if it's a simple process has to be safe so how do you make sure because the interesting part is that
00:47:14| it's really that the digital world and all the logic really comes down to a yes or no question done about a billion times so like a
00:47:24| i is just a yes or no many many many times and then also our genetics in evolution is also like a variance of yes or no yes no checks
00:47:37| right it's well it's four genes but one's on or one's off if fair it's yes or no ac right gtac not cgac or cga whatever the rna is but let's not go
00:47:50| there go yeah so all those things are randomly like bit flipping and creating something new whether the new thing is good or bad i don't know who
00:48:00| to say it is it's whether it succeeds or survives but what most people don't realize is that like your computer is the bunch of yes
00:48:09| knows all like all over again like multiple times a second it's just yes yes yes no no no yes yes you guys no like the reason that we change is
00:48:19| radiation and it's the same thing that affects computers so if you're calculating something and there's like a speck of radiation just explodes in that one
00:48:28| little bit and flips it you get like errors blue screens things fail yes could be a no no it could be a yes
00:48:36| sure so this leads into like tron you watch tron the new one old one yeah uh both is it digital jazz and how they did yeah that's a is that kurt russell again is that
00:48:53| what's his name yeah again i think what that's not russell it's uh uh what's his name jeff daniels daniel fact check us yeah but what he was
00:49:07| talking about was like there's probably another level of like the way you can break down a person versus the way you break down a computer and they're talking about how like a.i
00:49:16| generated this like being and then they became like their own entity so it's it's weird that we're just essentially like the human human beings
00:49:28| are essentially just instructions that are built out to house an intellect which we can't definitely answer is yes now sure consciousness intellect we can't
00:49:40| define i'm glad we're doing an entire episode worth of material right here yeah i just went off on a tangent i don't know where i was going i know and
00:49:48| i get it so what you were getting at is that we can mimic anything can we mimic human life i don't know why would we mimic things
00:49:58| are we constantly just mimics is that what we are is that what you were getting at kind of yeah um if we could rebuild the human body like
00:50:07| exactly if we could copy you with the mind yeah can we cop so there's there's this is the oh look at its abs [Laughter]
00:50:18| you'd if you had weed money you might make out with them i might for less i might for less but it's interesting like if you break your arm and like
00:50:30| you could have it rebuilt like you could just like this was my arm i have it saved just like fix me like there's a weird aspect of if you
00:50:40| merged biology medicine and some sort of weird like computer technology that you can make something that like protects people and
00:50:51| rebuilds them it would be used for capitalistic gains i'm sure a hundred percent and then be honest warriors we were just people with multiple arms going to war
00:51:04| what were the things in uh bioshock called daddy's it's like they didn't know the enhancements like the there's a plasma yeah that's exactly
00:51:16| the world of plasmids it's like 25 cents welcome to the circus of values hmm i took it off the rails where did where do you think ripley replication
00:51:31| should go honestly you said i don't i'm not a replicator i'm you're an original you're a unique snowflake
00:51:41| yeah i like to think i am of course i steal from everyone and steal from everything and my brand of humor is derived from this my brand of music is derived from this
00:51:49| my brand of like i don't know how i make friends is derived from this it's all derived but it's like i make my own and i'm also not afraid that it will fail hmm
00:52:02| what do you mean like so this is weird i heard jazz music really loud tonight when i was on my deck cooking crawling really loud and i said oh that's
00:52:21| probably live music down the street you know it's coved everything else i was like it's it's totally a bass player and totally a saxophonist and
00:52:31| it's totally jazz i was like kind of see what's going on so instead of grilling i walked down walked across the street walked
00:52:39| up the block and i saw live musicians and i was like hey i don't want to bother anyone i don't know what you guys are doing but i just want to say shout out
00:52:47| i really dig the bass yours is much bigger than mine and it was like a it was like a 10 foot or and by 10 foot i mean like six foot uh upright bass cello whatever it was cool and then
00:52:57| saxophonist and i was like listen and it was like older black gentlemen and i was like oh damn these guys know what's up like they've been around the block for
00:53:04| years like these guys are old cats like they get it and i was like i just want to give you guys a shout out everything you're doing tonight sounds really awesome i can hear
00:53:11| from my balcony i don't know i didn't know if you're having a concert over here and then a couple came out and they're like oh we were actually celebrating our wedding
00:53:18| anniversary and we don't go out much for coke and i was like i was like oh i'm standing over here i'm like oh this is cool you guys look wonderful
00:53:26| they were like 47 years of marriage and i was like that's awesome like you guys they were dressed up like it was really touching um i knew a couple of places where they
00:53:36| were from because i had somewhere from and everything and i was like this is cool like you guys have a good time i was like i'm nick i'm from this house over here and they were like oh we know
00:53:43| that house that's the party house and i was like oh that's like they got me that is the party house and i was like anyway guys have a great
00:53:51| night and i don't know like my idea is always just do something different or original or just don't do
00:54:01| what most people would do and i have no clue who those people were the jazz musicians i totally like them i totally dig them i totally hope they remember me and i don't know who the couple is
00:54:11| although they're sort of my neighbors so next time i see him i'll be able to say hi and like whatever but the idea is i don't know what percentage of people
00:54:20| would have just went over there and did that and in my brain i was just like ah don't bother them like don't go down there and do it but it was like real quick
00:54:26| it was real easy it was real i just wanted to say hey i wanted to tell them i appreciate what they're doing and it sounded cool and give a little you know people like
00:54:34| feedback every now and then without hanging around and being like breathing on them and stuff like that yeah there's a miniature challenge in here good
00:54:44| so i was watching a kurt vonnegut um i guess educational video about the classic of the classic story like what gets people hooked the most and he's essentially
00:54:54| going through cinderella and putting it on a plot graphing the happiness of the character and like he said this is repeated time and time again
00:55:01| so as a writer i guess a lot of people follow the same kind of plot whatever sure same kind of like there's copying they're mimicking until they
00:55:11| can expound on something the variance but get this if it gets copied so many times in so many stories the thing that's gonna grab your attention is one that doesn't copy
00:55:20| it because it's different yeah it's a balance i mean you're going to find that like eventually this formula works pretty well but the formula is going to
00:55:30| it's going to con itself out when everyone's doing it 90 of people you've read the story 900 times someone does something different you're like oh damn
00:55:38| oh damn it's like the first uh seven seven seven seasons of uh game of thrones this guy said the first seven seasons yeah i wouldn't i wouldn't disagree
00:55:49| though but they did it totally different they killed off characters that you shouldn't kill off and everyone was like i need more
00:55:57| you're right it was not exactly the the proper way to do a show and still characters yeah it was different but what you touched on was the moment so when you're in a moment with people
00:56:09| like the the i guess kind of like the inflection and the tone and the context all of that adds up to uniqueness that you can't you can't copy and paste and
00:56:22| then you and you also can't share that with people exactly no you guys have no clue i know but you guys weren't there and you i'm glad you listened and everything but i felt weird
00:56:31| when i was in i was like he had to be there i always wanted to say but you're right which is strange right because most people
00:56:41| i don't know that they're on that level of having actual interactions with people with sharing i guess unique moments it's the how's the weather
00:56:51| how are you like the standard communication protocols it's very strange that most people i would say majority of people are like willing to
00:57:01| go along with this like that kind of standard well because they're yeah i i would agree most people don't want to break that you also don't want
00:57:10| to be the guy who's in line at the grocery store who just starts talking to the young clerk and maybe he's creepy and he has no he doesn't know he's creepy you know
00:57:18| that's the danger for me at one point am i like you know anyway this is a two dollar bill you ever seen a two dollar bill before
00:57:28| yes sir i have nobody talks anymore like i wouldn't do that like you know what i mean but but at the same time the person who's doing that
00:57:38| doesn't know that they're out of line so there is a fine line i will say that you have to know what you're doing but there's also a reward for not doing your own thing and not i don't
00:57:49| know i'm going off base what we're saying here is everyone has a midlife crisis and you're having yours right now listening to this
00:57:57| episode if you listen this far you're having a midlife crisis what can you do to correct it buy a harley yeah go buy a sport for
00:58:11| them find some dudes find some guys find some bros that'll help you get through this it's a bicep of guys in their bicep mansion
00:58:20| their workout party i think what it boils down to is that you really just need solid connections with people you need to find people that are
00:58:28| like you in mentality and it might surprise you who has that mentality even if here's the interesting thing i think that's what might cause that midlife crisis you kind of get away from
00:58:39| that yeah like you know in high school we're all best friends we're all laughing we're all doing [ __ ] in college you're kind of the same thing by the
00:58:46| time you get in your late 20s early 30s you kind of like you mentioned no one's caring for you and you're not really bros with anyone i mean you're doing
00:58:53| [ __ ] so it's like you you disassociate from the world and just become this i'm doing a job i'm saving money i'm doing this i'm fixing the
00:59:02| house i'm doing this i'm raising a kid and you stop having those interactions with people like you said if if you're if you've known somebody for
00:59:12| you know a few weeks maybe that's not long enough to understand that they're sarcastic all the time and when you need to get somebody off your back you just
00:59:21| you gotta show them your butthole that's what you gotta do man maybe that's the only way to get rid of some people or get them really into you it really it
00:59:33| really depends where the dice fall yeah and that if a girl's really into you that's the only way that's how you know that it's true that's fate or you're faded
00:59:46| so what we're saying is keep checking our social keep checking our this um yeah some kind of i gotta pee and you know that's the way it goes when you get older folks
00:59:59| so thanks for tuning in every episode depends on me it depends on the episode it does but thank you for checking us out okay i think anything to add about
01:00:11| midlife crises or mimicking please feel free to not even tell us yeah because we probably don't well i probably would care i don't think
01:00:20| nick would care though i would care i wouldn't get around to checking it that's i think that's a good night it is thanks for joining us
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